CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #40

[rebeccaeee]

RE: the texts Sunday night. From Day 1 Dr Phil Show transcript: Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - CO CO - Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 Nov 2012 *Media , Maps & Timelines*



To which friend was the 9:37 text sent? It wouldn't have been R, right? because he showed the world his texts. And it probably wasn't W or F because they were right there when R was showing the texts. Elaine says it was one of his friends there in the Southwest.

That text - something's not right.

Maybe T? The one who lives close to the lake? He doesn't seem to be on the A-list, if you will, of Dylan's young friends who have been vocal and visible throughout. But he does seem to be the go-to friend for MR to discuss. Just a thought. Also- many of those friend's moms have been on FB and been very vocal and no one is owning up to that text.

 

[SCHMAE]

I wonder what the likelihood is of MR having done something but that he totally blocked it out? Not like a drinking blackout, but more like he accidentally did something to Dylan and then blocked it out because he couldn't face what he did.

Of course if that were the case, I guess he would eagerly take the polygraph because he would think that he hadn't done anything wrong, having blocked it from his memory.

Just thinking out loud.

A PTSD type of memory loss ? hmmm

 

[Deleted member 39678]

Why? I'm not sure what you mean?

Direct evidence is usually eyewitness testimony where someone witnessed the defendant commit the crime. A lot of times the eyewitness is wrong in their identification.

Circumstantial evidence can include forensic evidence like ballistics that can tie a defendant to a crime. It can be much more powerful in my opinion.

 

[Confusion]

I actually prefer circumstantial evidence over direct evidence in most cases. IMO.

My biggest problem with this whole thing is that the only evidence that we know of is that he's gone. I have seen absolutely nothing else that really even indicates that a crime was committed. People believe he would have contacted someone (but there could be several reasons why he hasn't), and MR says some things that don't make much sense, but even that doesn't necessarily say that a crime was committed. There's no doubt in my mind that there was a crime, but I just don't see any actual evidence of it, and definitely not any showing who did it. MOO :banghead:

 

[Annie1004]

OK, after a good night's sleep (and having NOT watched part two last night), what if MR has a real mental block/fear of polygraph tests because of the dubious outcome of his earlier LE test? If he knows something, then he would want to avoid the test; but if he has a genuine phobia, he needs to work on that. Maybe re-taking the test with LE in a quieter place with less (different?) pressure on him might be in his best interests.

No matter, MR needs to take the test pronto. If not, then he is digging his own grave, IMHO, and continuing to hurt Dylan and Cory and EH and a multitude of others connected to Dylan.

 

[SuperMom1995]

Someone just told me that Dr. Phil is having a special report on at 3:00 today about Dylan? Does anyone else know anything about this?

 

[ColdHands]

My biggest problem with this whole thing is that the only evidence that we know of is that he's gone. I have seen absolutely nothing else that really even indicates that a crime was committed. People believe he would have contacted someone (but there could be several reasons why he hasn't), and MR says some things that don't make much sense, but even that doesn't necessarily say that a crime was committed. There's no doubt in my mind that there was a crime, but I just don't see any actual evidence of it, and definitely not any showing who did it. MOO :banghead:

BBM - or even what crime it was. Murder? Manslaughter? Kidnapping? Custodial interference? Sexual assault? Assault? any combination of the list?

 

[Seek&Find]

The 911 call and initial statements are among the most important pieces of evidence should a case go to trial," said Stacy Dittrich, a former Ohio police detective, crime expert and author. "The entire case can build from those few sentences."

The emotions don't fit
Not answering "yes" or "no"
Lying about small stuff
Referring to a missing person in past-tense

Most criminals destroy themselves with their own statements.

More at link

Just ran across this. Interesting.

Moo

 

[SCHMAE]

Someone just told me that Dr. Phil is having a special report on at 3:00 today about Dylan? Does anyone else know anything about this?

Is that a rumor ? It would be fascinating if true.

 

[ColdHands]

What the?

http://denver.cbslocal.com/2013/02/...d-continues-to-devote-many-resources-to-case/

From the video (not in the article text)

We talked to investigators today who believe the dogs found was brush actually pushed up against a tree in Vallecito Reservoir...

Brush? HRD dogs now alert on brush?

 

[missrugby]

While I have no problems with Dylan not texting after 9:30 p.m. I do have a lot of problems with the idea that he would venture out on his own with ALL of his belongings and not contact anyone prior to that. He definitely would have had some communication with someone to meet up somewhere. If he was just outside wandering around (i.e. playing on rock walls, exploring the woods, etc...) he would NOT have brought ALL of his belongings.

If someone came into the house to abduct him, there would be some kind of a evidence of a struggle-he was almost 14 years old at the time! Also, he wouldn't take the time to grab all of his stuff. Would you think the abductor would have bothered to grab the backpack? Or allowed Dylan to grab it? That doesn't make any sense.

Why would he leave the house with all of his stuff without contacting anyone at all. He had plans, he had friends and he lived too far away from anyone to just get up and go without talking to them first.

Trust me, I've tried all of the mental calisthenics possible to try to make this work, but it just doesn't. The only logical explanation at this point would be that Mark did something to Dylan.

And how many 13 year old boys remember to take all if their belongings? Mine have to be reminded of everything down to brushing their teeth sometimes!

 

[SCHMAE]

What the?

http://denver.cbslocal.com/2013/02/...d-continues-to-devote-many-resources-to-case/

From the video (not in the article text)


Brush? HRD dogs now alert on brush?

OK! I'm calling BS on something here. If this is what the laplata co. investigators think that the HRD dogs are hitting on ,,,,,,,,,then we have way bigger problems what MR's blood shot eyes ! What the heck?

 

[DylansMom34]

Someone just told me that Dr. Phil is having a special report on at 3:00 today about Dylan? Does anyone else know anything about this?

Where did they hear that? And is that 3:00 Colorado time??

 

[rebeccaeee]

OK! I'm calling BS on something here. If this is what the laplata co. investigators think that the HRD dogs are hitting on ,,,,,,,,,then we have way bigger problems what MR's blood shot eyes ! What the heck?

So something dead resting against the brush? I'm going to have to gain a much greater understanding of HRD and S&R and who knows what else....

 

[cluciano63]

Why are LE so skeptical of the dogs? Why wouldn't they want to fully investigate any possibilities? I understand the lake is huge, cumbersome, etc. but come on. They seem so dismissive of this group who are working their butts off.

Well-trained dogs should not hit on anything other than HUMAN remains scent. JMO

 

[eileenhawkeye]

Someone just told me that Dr. Phil is having a special report on at 3:00 today about Dylan? Does anyone else know anything about this?

I don't see how that would be possible, since Dr. Phil is on different channels at different times for everyone. Plus, on his website, the show for today is about some NBA player.

 

[ColdHands]

OK! I'm calling BS on something here. If this is what the laplata co. investigators think that the HRD dogs are hitting on ,,,,,,,,,then we have way bigger problems what MR's blood shot eyes ! What the heck?

Please tell me you heard it too. I'm not crazy, right? This reporter said the dogs hit on brush?:banghead:

 

[azgrandma]

They need to go to mediation as MR suggested.

That would be a wonderful suggestion if they were still married or just going through a divorce.
Mediation is used to resolve disputes between parties. Not to have two parents discuss where their missing child may be.

 

[summer_breeze]

http://denver.cbslocal.com/2013/02/...d-continues-to-devote-many-resources-to-case/

February 28, 2013 10:12 AM

<snipped>

Investigators say they have a wealth of evidence, but still no leads and no named suspect.

“We have gathered so many little pieces of evidence, it’s kind of like a jigsaw puzzle and now you’re just looking for that one piece to bring everything together,” Bender said.

 

[Eileen730]

As an alcoholic (full disclosure - haven't drank in 8 years), I'll give my take on the drinking and the subsequent poly. Granted, this is me, not him, and I don't even know if he's an alcoholic, just saying...

The night before, I might not be able to keep myself from drinking. I'd berate myself for doing so, knowing that I was being the biggest failure in the world when my child needed me the most, but alcoholism is basically a compulsion to not feel, to escape, so I'd drink to not feel the pain. As others have mentioned, alcoholics don't just drink a little, they drink to make sure that buzz goes all evening, to the point of falling asleep, passing out, or blacking out. IF he's an alcoholic, he didn't just drink a half a pint. He probably wouldn't have been able to stop that compulsion once he started drinking.

BUT (here's the big but), IF I knew I was innocent, I'd make it to the polygraph come hell or high water, and I would take it, even if it meant lying about how I felt or whether I was hungover.

Again, totally just what I would do. By lying about how I felt, I might shoot myself in the foot with the polygraph results, but nothing would keep me from taking that poly.

All totally MOO and what I would do; I don't expect anyone else to think or act like me (Thank God!). :moo:

Kudos to you on 8 years!