CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #40

[Seajay]

Finally caught up. Whew!! I am still disgusted with MR and his refusal to take a poly, even if it had been a week later. I think because he told Dr. Phil he'd give one, he should have made good on it later. I still can see why he didn't do it that day, it was quite emotional and upsetting, but to sabotage his readiness the next day was outrageous.

I feel that my time on the fence is precarious. I feel like as I'm sitting there, someone is coming behind me, sneaking up on me and ready to push me off the fence. That person is MR. He own actions, his own behaviors are showing me what kind of man he is.

I still don't think he killed Dylan because I still don't think Dylan is dead, but dang MR didn't do himself any favors as far as me being completely convinced he's blameless in this. JMO

 

[Seajay]

She made the comment after Dylan became missing, She stayed with MR a whole week prior to Dylan's disappearance, MR stated stated Theres cell phone service at his house, for her to state there's no cell phone service at MR house is totally a False and misleading Statement.

I believe we can pretty much leave everyone else out of this, there are enough people to point fingers at, we don't need to start tearing apart someone who really has nothing to do with this other than to state something she noticed. We can't do this with every person who steps forward, because all that's going to happen is no one is going to want to step forward. IMO.

 

[mmmagique]

Her cell provider may not have had cell service there.

It is completely unfair to say people have zero credibility when they are trying to help to the best of their ability.

She said one thing, but mr says another (as does MB's cell phone)

 

[cluciano63]

Finally caught up. Whew!! I am still disgusted with MR and his refusal to take a poly, even if it had been a week later. I think because he told Dr. Phil he'd give one, he should have made good on it later. I still can see why he didn't do it that day, it was quite emotional and upsetting, but to sabotage his readiness the next day was outrageous.

I feel that my time on the fence is precarious. I feel like as I'm sitting there, someone is coming behind me, sneaking up on me and ready to push me off the fence. That person is MR. He own actions, his own behaviors are showing me what kind of man he is.

I still don't think he killed Dylan because I still don't think Dylan is dead, but dang MR didn't do himself any favors as far as me being completely convinced he's blameless in this. JMO

I understand the need to believe Dylan is alive, but the longer this goes on and the more publicity achieved, I just do not see how it is possible that he has Dylan in hiding. Someone would have to be with Dylan. Who could this be? It would have to be someone who loves MR very much, to put the rest of their life at risk. I do not believe he could have a person such as this in his life that LE and FBI would not be able to trace in several months time.

Who do you believe would get involved in such a scheme and keep it up month after month? No way do I believe Dylan would be in agreement with being removed from his life, so he would be have to be a hostage. I could see MR doing this, no problem, but sadly, I cannot see that he would have someone who would help him to this extent, and yet be invisible to LE.

 

[Ronald99]

http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=htt...aN-sdQJPayG6rtCJ13vdQtQgAk8Oc_QSiT0CKhaXf&s=1


The above YouTube video hopefully it plays, is by puddle of mud, I was watching it and it made me think of Dylan, it's posted on the FMDR page.

I really Pray Dylan's Alive, MR has not taken the Disappearance of Dylan or these Polygraph Test Seriously and this leaves zero hope for a positive outcome.

Mark Redwine Dylan is your child, Please stop hurting everyone and provide the Family members with Dylan's Location and answers to what really happened November 18 2012 Sunday Night.

 

[Ronald99]

I believe we can pretty much leave everyone else out of this, there are enough people to point fingers at, we don't need to start tearing apart someone who really has nothing to do with this other than to state something she noticed. We can't do this with every person who steps forward, because all that's going to happen is no one is going to want to step forward. IMO.

You have a point, but when certain persons come forward attempting to provide information that's unable to be confirmed as Factual or is providing information that's contradicted a known fact, That person needs to be viewed and Discussed.

This Forum is about Sleuthing, I didn't invent these persons that decided to defend MR, There actions recently need to be looked at carefully.

 

[asyousay]

Do we know if Mark is close with his family as I am surprised he took a ex girlfriend on the show but not one of his brothers who he may of spent Thanksgiving with ??

MOO

 

[La Louve]

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Bender said the dogs had been wrong before, and Dylan remained officially at large.

http://durangoherald.com/article/20...earance-delivers-drama--#sthash.XJUGDjPY.dpuf

What an odd turn of phrase to use about a missing boy.......... "at large". Makes Dylan sound like an escaped convict.

 

[Stash777]

http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=htt...aN-sdQJPayG6rtCJ13vdQtQgAk8Oc_QSiT0CKhaXf&s=1


The above YouTube video hopefully it plays, is by puddle of mud, I was watching it and it made me think of Dylan, it's posted on the FMDR page.

I really Pray Dylan's Alive, MR has not taken the Disappearance of Dylan or these Polygraph Test Seriously and this leaves zero hope for a positive outcome.

Mark Redwine Dylan is your child, Please stop hurting everyone and provide the Family members with Dylan's Location and answers to what really happened November 18 2012 Sunday Night.

I knew the song once I read Puddle of Mud - my husband used to listen to this song when he was unable to see his son. Thank you for posting it, I think it is very fitting for Dylan and his family.

 

[La Louve]

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Who do you believe would get involved in such a scheme and keep it up month after month? No way do I believe Dylan would be in agreement with being removed from his life, so he would be have to be a hostage. I could see MR doing this, no problem, but sadly, I cannot see that he would have someone who would help him to this extent, and yet be invisible to LE.

The comparisons to Kyron Horman continue to resonate for me with Dylan's case and your comment reminds me of the theory that Teri Horman hid Kyron away somewhere. In both situations, maybe there's not someone else being complicit in an ongoing way, keeping the child safe but hidden and held hostage. Rather, perhaps someone was found who, for a certain amount of money, was hired to make the child "disappear".

 

[Ronald99]

I would hope so. they seem so quick to dismiss things and not follow through. I dunno if that's the case but that's how it seems. The location seems specific enough now. They might not even need divers - just sonar in the right place and snow/ice removal.

http://www.krqe.com/dpp/news/crime/dog-team-finds-scent-in-search-for-boy

The group will share their findings with the La Plata County Sheriff's Department, which will then decide what to do next.

 

[cluciano63]

The comparisons to Kyron Horman continue to resonate for me with Dylan's case and your comment reminds me of the theory that Teri Horman hid Kyron away somewhere. In both situations, maybe there's not someone else being complicit in an ongoing way, keeping the child safe but hidden and held hostage. Rather, perhaps someone was found who, for a certain amount of money, was hired to make the child "disappear".

But did either MR or TH have that kind of money?
Or are you talking about some creep who would kill a child for a few hundred bucks? I am sure such people exist, but where on earth would one find one? Just too "out there" for me. But I agree about the similarities, I have brought Kyron, and especially Desiree up many times. Also that case generated much internet excitement, to put it mildly.

 

[La Louve]

But did either MR or TH have that kind of money?
Or are you talking about some creep who would kill a child for a few hundred bucks? I am sure such people exist, but where on earth would one find one? Just too "out there" for me. But I agree about the similarities, I have brought Kyron, and especially Desiree up many times. Also that case generated much internet excitement, to put it mildly.

We know Teri allegedly tried to hire someone to kill her estranged husband so she certainly had some funds available and the inclination to do harm to Kyron's father. But I wasn't thinking so much a hired killing as a hired abduction, with the child then being "sold" by the hired abductor to some nefarious third party. I hate to type these words but pedophilia ring is what comes to mind. Not that any of this would ever be the end result envisioned by the vengeful parent, of course. But if a vengeful parent would hide a child to get back at their estranged spouse is it really so much of a leap to think that same parent could hire someone to make the kid go away permanently?

ETA: The fact that MR had two months from the time the custody arrangement was changed until Dylan's thanksgiving visit makes me think he would have had plenty of time to plot and arrange for Dylan's abduction.

 

[katydid23]

And some of us have admitted that we have had phones that have at some point died, as in not able to be charged and ready for the trash. Dylan's phone was possibly getting on and used a lot, so I have wondered if this happened on Sunday evening, and Dylan placed it on charge before going to sleep. Maybe when he surfaced the next day, he found it still dead as a doornail just before any of Coldhands' scenarios above.

I also wondered if he may have woken quite late, wolfed down some cereal before heading outside with his backpack ready to roll. Maybe he was waiting in the driveway so his dad wouldn't even have to come in. Or perhaps he started off down the road thinking he would save even more time and catch his dad down at the intersection. Either way, along comes predator - either someone Dylan knows or a friendly stranger offering a ride.

:moo:

Why would he stand outside in the driveway, waiting for his Dad, but not answer his Dads calls ? Dads said he tried the landline and the cell.

 

[katydid23]

If that's the case, it really saddens me. IMO, personally having been there done that to an extent, it says to me that money is more important than your child (generally speaking). My husband and I "had an out (for no better word)" when it was found that his son was not his biologically (7 years ago) and his ex was trying to petition to get my husband off the birth certificate, we fought to be able stay in his life because the relationship meant so much more to us than anything else. While my husband now has custody, due to multiple issues including this one, we have never sought support from his mom. If he were to go live with his mom in the future and support was reinstated, it would not matter to us - all we want is what is best for him. It's just really hard for me to understand, even though I know it happens, that child support is a motive in killing your own flesh and blood - it is sickening to me! I am not saying this happened in this particular case, but if it is the case, I just have no words.

Your husband is a wonderful person, for taking care of his son, in spite of the paternity issue. This world needs more wonderful men like him. Hug them both tight. :hug::loveyou:

 

[cluciano63]

We know Teri allegedly tried to hire someone to kill her estranged husband so she certainly had some funds available and the inclination to do harm to Kyron's father. But I wasn't thinking so much a hired killing as a hired abduction, with the child then being "sold" by the hired abductor to some nefarious third party. I hate to type these words but pedophilia ring is what comes to mind. Not that any of this would ever be the end result envisioned by the vengeful parent, of course. But if a vengeful parent would hide a child to get back at their estranged spouse is it really so much of a leap to think that same parent could hire someone to make the kid go away permanently?

I think with Kaine, if that happened, she was counting on insurance money.

With Kyron, I would not altogether rule out that something like that could have
happened to him. With Dylan, I am not really considering that, as his age would be a drawback for me. I know it happens to teen boys, but much more likely to be runaways already on the streets, IMO.

 

[katydid23]

Her cell provider may not have had cell service there.

It is completely unfair to say people have zero credibility when they are trying to help to the best of their ability.

If her cell provider had no service then it is incorrect to say that there is NO cell service. We have seen that there is service, the tv reporter. MB, got a call while on camera.

 

[asyousay]

Why would Dylan wait in the cold for his dad as he dad could of been running late for all Dylan knew ?

It would not of taken that long for Dylan to grab his stuff and get in the car . No need to wait in the cold getting cold IMO

 

[cluciano63]

I would really like to believe that MR could have someone hiding Dylan, and am serious about anyone who believes this scenario to ask who and how they think this could be done. I do not get the impression MR has a lot of money. He would have to be providing for Dylan's upkeep and presumably for someone to stay with him, as I would think with a kid his age, he could not be left alone for fear of escape, so this person would likely not be able to keep a job. This sounds like a pretty expensive operation to me.

And I still can't figure out the ultimate motive. To go to all the trouble and planning this would entail, it is impossible for me to believe that the "end game" was never discussed. MR may be a lot of things, but I do not think he is insane.

 

[catswhiskers]

She made the comment after Dylan became missing, She stayed with MR a whole week prior to Dylan's disappearance, MR stated stated Theres cell phone service at his house, for her to state there's no cell phone service at MR house is totally a False and misleading Statement.

Yet we have heard from a WS member who assisted in the searches for Dylan, that she had no reception standing directly in front of MRs house. IMO It would most certainly depend on your service provider, and I doubt that the huge rock face in MR's backyard would help matters either.
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