CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #41

[*Lash*]

That could be easily verified so I would imagine he arrived closer to 8:30am. Problem is that there is no proof that he arrived there from his home in Vallecito. I do not believe there is any video showing vehicles on the road between the two places.

MOO

In my opinion, we don't know what LE may or may not have on video per statements in several MSM articles. Even a direct quote from Bender.

"As this is an ongoing criminal investigation, the Task Force cannot comment on details about the search of Mark Redwine's home, details about video and photographs from community members that are being analyzed, or any other details on the investigation," said Dan Bender, a sheriff's office spokesman.

http://www.denverpost.com/breakingn...investigators-search-missing-boy-near-durango

The footage already received is being analyzed for clues.

http://durangoherald.com/article/20...tors-end-search-of-house#sthash.VP3O6W72.dpuf

 

[TxLady2]

the reasons I think premeditation are:
one way plane ticket, per MR and CR.
only a few snacks to get through a couple days. "Dylan was only here for a short time". How did MR know DR would only be there for a short time when they were at Walmart???

I hate to ask this, but do you have a link that he bought just a few snacks to last a couple days? I've seen that stated before, just wondered where it came from.
Actually he knew Dylan was only going to be there a few days to a week, because he would need to go home on the next weekend to go back to school.
I think the one way plane ticket may have been because he planned to drop him off after Thanksgiving with his brother, since he lives not far from CS. I know that's been mentioned before. But even so, don't you think if he premeditated this, he would know that a one-way ticket would be a big red flag?? He may be a total jerk, but he's not stupid, surely he would have taken care of little clues like that.
Not defending him... just saying I don't believe it was premeditated. JMO.

 

[findDylan]

But wasnt he the one that found them and asked them for help?

He did contact them after they offered the help but he also said he would take a polygraph. So.... IMO

 

[Seek&Find]

But wasnt he the one that found them and asked them for help?

No, he wasn't. He said he was. A lazy reporter didn't fact check, just reported what Mark said. In fact, Wendy made the offer through KOB, Elaine & Mike contacted KOB, and KOB connected them.

"Elaine and I watched that together and we're just so grateful that people like her are willing to help and so I reached out to KOB to put me in contact with her," said Hall.

KOB 4 helped make the link between Dylan's mother and Kessinger.

link

Just another dishonest piece of the puzzle that points to Mark's involvement, IMO.

 

[TxLady2]

Should one want to get out of jury duty, tell them you do have a preconceived opinion. I did this one time, not because I wanted out of jury duty, but just to be truthful. I also went into detail. The DA could not get me out of there fast enough and said something about me contaminating the whole jury pool.

I sat on a jury once, for a case of indecency with a child. I had not heard one thing about the case before being on the jury. But by the end of the first day of testimony it was extremely hard not to make up my mind as to his guilt. It only lasted 2 days and by the time the accused testified, I prayed it would be over soon or that we wouldn't end up a hung jury.
Some people have no idea how hard it is to remain unbiased, and I can only imagine how difficult it is when it's a high-profile case that has had a lot of publicity. I've been called for jury duty many times, but that was the first time I had ever been picked. And I hope the last! The pay is lousy!!

 

[pattywack]

But wasnt he the one that found them and asked them for help?

http://www.kktv.com/home/headlines/...-Join-Search-for-Dylan-Redwine-189951501.html
This is the group that MR asked for help. I have never seen anything about their searches for Dylan.

http://www.krqe.com/dpp/news/local/central/nm-k-9-group-begins-search-for-teen
K-9 Forensics offered their help.

 

[Eileen730]

No, he wasn't. He said he was. A lazy reporter didn't fact check, just reported what Mark said. In fact, Wendy made the offer through KOB, Elaine & Mike contacted KOB, and KOB connected them.

link

Just another dishonest piece of the puzzle that points to Mark's involvement, IMO.

That does not surprise me at all.
Where is he hiding these days?

 

[Seek&Find]

I hate to ask this, but do you have a link that he bought just a few snacks to last a couple days? I've seen that stated before, just wondered where it came from.

It came directly from Mark.

Melissa Blasius:
Why’d you go to Wal-Mart?

Mark Redwine:
Well, I had just recently come in from doing a job in Silver City, New Mexico, so, you know, I didn’t have a whole lot of things for us to eat, and you know, Dylan’s always adamant about having his snacks around and things for him to snack on when he’s around, and…so there was a need for us to grab enough things from Wal-Mart to be able to sustain ourselves for a day or two while we were figuring out… you know, I didn’t even buy anything for Thanksgiving because I didn’t have any concrete plan as to what we were going to do whether we were going to do it here or whether we were going to do it somewhere else. So, all I was trying to do was focus on, you know, having enough to get us by for the next couple days until we could make those arrangements. You know, Dylan … wanted to throw in a few videos that he found in the $5 bin, so we threw those in -- which is one of the movies we would watch that night … you know… when we were together… and… you know…I mean there wasn’t a whole lot of things we needed.

[ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8813297&postcount=79"]link[/ame]

Big :tyou: to TxJan for the transcripts in the media thread!

 

[Seek&Find]

That does not surprise me at all.
Where is he hiding these days?

I've wondered too. Given his job often takes him out of state, I'd guess that's the case now...?

 

[SCHMAE]

It came directly from Mark.

link

Big :tyou: to TxJan for the transcripts in the media thread!

THIS dude and his language...... what the heck ??

Melissa Blasius:
Why’d you go to Wal-Mart?

Mark Redwine:
Well, I had just recently come in from doing a job in Silver City, New Mexico, so, you know, I didn’t have a whole lot of things for us to eat, and you know, Dylan’s always adamant about having his snacks around and things for him to snack on when he’s around, and…so there was a need for us to grab enough things from Wal-Mart to be able to sustain ourselves for a day or two while we were figuring out… you know, I didn’t even buy anything for Thanksgiving because I didn’t have any concrete plan as to what we were going to do whether we were going to do it here or whether we were going to do it somewhere else. So, all I was trying to do was focus on, you know, having enough to get us by for the next couple days until we could make those arrangements. You know, Dylan … wanted to throw in a few videos that he found in the $5 bin, so we threw those in -- which is one of the movies we would watch that night … you know… when we were together… and… you know…I mean there wasn’t a whole lot of things we needed.


Dylan always ADAMENT about having snacks. Was Dylan a tyrant about his snacks? Or was he a regular kid who wanted a snack and MR thinks him wanting something is being ADAMENT?

For the love of God to MR if you are innocent, do not ever SPEAK another word !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Ronald99]

I've been trying to find this info. for awhile. As near as I can tell they are not certified thru any of the ones I mentioned. They are not on the New Mexico approved SAR list. There is an article where she says she is certified in Florida, but it does not say through who or for what. Right now I'm trying to weed through the news reports from the Salle case that they worked to try and find more info. on the subject.

Just from memory, when you mentioned Florida, I remember her stating in an interview that the breeders of the Search Dogs are located in a small town in Florida that i never heard of, I grew up in Florida, Theres so many small towns to this day I'm learning about with unusual names in the north florida panhandle areas.

 

[The Cheese]

But wasnt he the one that found them and asked them for help?

He did contact them after they offered the help but he also said he would take a polygraph. So.... IMO

No, he wasn't. He said he was. A lazy reporter didn't fact check, just reported what Mark said. In fact, Wendy made the offer through KOB, Elaine & Mike contacted KOB, and KOB connected them.

link

Just another dishonest piece of the puzzle that points to Mark's involvement, IMO.

I've posted the links several times to where Wendy Kessinger posted on facebook that Mark contacted them 5 minutes after the piece aired on the news. Also the link where FMDR posted (paraphrased) that Elaine would file the offer from K-9 Forensics for future reference when and if they needed it.

It appeared to me that it was only after Elaine got wind that Mark had contacted them, that she then contacted them.

I'm getting ready to go out. I'll look up the links again if anyone wants them as soon as I can.

ETA -

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[SCHMAE]

I've wondered too. Given his job often takes him out of state, I'd guess that's the case now...?

Speaking of his job out of town... the XGF on DP says she knows all about the relationship between MR and DR but at any time she might have been around we know that MR was not exercising his rights too frequently so DR was likely not around this woman very many times at all, IF more than the once she mentions. Also after she talks about how it all went down ( which is about a carbon copyof what MR said happened on monday morning ) she closes with the statement of MR really never seeing his kids because he was at work all the time on the road. Points to ponder !

 

[Seek&Find]

http://www.krqe.com/dpp/news/local/central/nm-k-9-group-begins-search-for-teen
K-9 Forensics offered their help.

Yep. Rocky Mountain Investigations has been quiet since they first announced a tip through Facebook, prior to LE receiving it, iirc. :notgood:

And above article's wrong. See KOB links, since they were the ones who ran the K9 Forensics offer and the follow-ups. :sigh: It's like all reporters do these days is play telephone with info. Our media's a mess!

Moo

 

[Ronald99]

I cannot find anything through google that talks about five branch rivers. So maybe it's a local thing? All I can find is the five branch campground. I'm still perplexed about the northern part of the lake. I can't find Wendy's statement that she made about her findings and I think it may have been on the FB page and is now removed or maybe I'm just confused. Last thread we were talking about the initial search in the northern area of the lake and then we were also talking about the dog hits. I need to go back to the last thread and see if I can figure read over what's posted there.

I have drove myself nuts enough tonight and I have a early morning and big day, so I'll have to try and remember to look back next time I get a chance to get back here on the thread.

http://www.krqe.com/dpp/news/crime/dog-team-finds-scent-in-search-for-boy

(We had a couple of hits in that area," said Wendy Kessenger of K9 Forensics. "What we did is we moved it closer to east side of lake where the five branch rivers flow into each on that side and we had many alerts going off there)

 

[TxLady2]

Jurors take an oath to arrive at their verdict based only on the evidence presented. Sometimes, after a not guilty verdict, jurors interviewed will say they believe the defendant is probably guilty, but they were unable to vote guilty based on the evidence presented. There's no way to guarantee that every juror will do his or her duty, but I believe most take the responsibility seriously and make an earnest effort to follow the law.

People have every right to believe MR is innocent. Or fence sit until they know more. My opinion is that he's involved, but if I were a juror on a hypothetical trial of MR and knew no more than I know now, I would vote to acquit. We can all think whatever we want but only the jury is charged to presume innocence until or unless evidence is presented to the contrary. MR "is involved" theories are argued against just like MR "is innocent" theories are met with disagreement. All MOO

Well, if every suspect was presumed innocent until proven guilty, we wouldn't need LE investigating anyone at all. They'd all be innocent.
I don't know definitely whether he is guilty, but he hasn't even been arrested or charged with a crime, so talking about a trial is kind of jumping the gun, IMO. What if they never find a body, or there is not sufficient evidence to bring charges? So many of these cases I've followed end up the same way... no evidence, no body, no arrest or trial. It's frustrating. I hope to God this one doesn't turn out the same way.

 

[*Lash*]

I am behind and I have no idea if this was posted last night, but just in case. The title of the article starts with 'New Clue'.

After more than three months of disappointment and dead ends, a new clue has surfaced in the search for missing Colorado teen Dylan Redwine.

It came from the East Mountain search-and-rescue group KOB Eyewitness News 4 introduced to the Redwine family.

It's nothing but ice, snow and sub-zero temperatures at Vallecito Lake - but K-9 Forensics says they are making some headway.

A hound picked up on a scent on the east side of the lake.

The La Plata County Sheriff's Office hadn't heard about the hit when we called them this morning, but they do say a lot of new tips have come flooding in lately.

http://www.kob.com/article/stories/S2946344.shtml?cat=504

 

[TxLady2]

His answers are unreal. He makes my head spin. Dr. Phil must have been bug-eyed during some of these ramblings.

He was, didn't you notice? :floorlaugh:

Seriously... he rambles like that to get out of answering a question. I know people like that, they cannot give you a straight answer, they either avoid the question altogether or they go around in circles until you forget what you asked them in the first place. Or sometimes they answer something that has no bearing on what you asked. He would drive a polygrapher nutz because there is no way he could give a simple 'yes' or 'no' answer and they do not allow any qualifiers... only 'Yes' or 'No'... period. It would be impossible for him to do that. IMO.

 

[Seek&Find]

I've posted the links several times to where Wendy Kessinger posted on facebook that Mark contacted them 5 minutes after the piece aired on the news. Also the link where FMDR posted (paraphrased) that Elaine would file the offer from K-9 Forensics for future reference when and if they needed it.

It appeared to me that it was only after Elaine got wind that Mark had contacted them, that she then contacted them.

I'm getting ready to go out. I'll look up the links again if anyone wants them as soon as I can.

BBM

I disagree with this interpretation of events. Actually, the offer was made first on FMDR (that'd be to Elaine, since she posts there and her best friend runs it) then KOB very shortly thereafter. How exactly would Elaine have known Mark contacted them? And the foundation set up for rewards and searches (that Mark hasn't contributed one red cent to) paid for Wendy's accommodations while in the Vallecito area. KOB clearly states Elaine contacted them first, then Mark also contacted them. Wendy met with them to get info to conduct the search.

Moo

ETA: "He hasn’t done a single thing since Dylan has been gone.

Dr. Phil:
Why do you say that? What has he not done?

CR:
He hasn’t been to any of the benefits. He wasn’t there for Dylan’s birthday vigil. He hasn’t helped at all with the Find Missing Dylan Redwine Fund." [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8952177&postcount=98"]link[/ame]

 

[Ronald99]

I hate to ask this, but do you have a link that he bought just a few snacks to last a couple days? I've seen that stated before, just wondered where it came from.
Actually he knew Dylan was only going to be there a few days to a week, because he would need to go home on the next weekend to go back to school.
I think the one way plane ticket may have been because he planned to drop him off after Thanksgiving with his brother, since he lives not far from CS. I know that's been mentioned before. But even so, don't you think if he premeditated this, he would know that a one-way ticket would be a big red flag?? He may be a total jerk, but he's not stupid, surely he would have taken care of little clues like that.
Not defending him... just saying I don't believe it was premeditated. JMO.

I believe the one way ticket was because Elaine was going to drive up and bring Dylan back home if remembering correctly, Plus it's always been said that the receiving parent was responsible for providing transportation for Dylan.

I haven't researched the link, I'm just recalling from memory.