CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #42

[ColdHands]

Its a collective group and they wont rule out any one yet, but they do have their ppl that have passed their poly, have alibis, cell records prove where they were when this happened. I do not think they want to signal one out of the bunch...Not yet anyway! When the time is right they will pounce they have their eyez on the prize!

One reason I still explore other theories is because I don't know what LE knows. For instance, I don't know what anyone's alibi status is. I don't know who "all the adults in Dylan's life" are. I don't know what the results of all the polygraphs are. I don't know that cell phone records prove where anyone is. I don't know what the results of the searches were or what tests were done in the home and vehicles. I can assume all that clears everybody and points to Mark but that is an awful lot to assume.

That's all. Just MO

 

[Eileen730]

So it's BS for a parent to parent?

Wouldnt it have been nice if this parent had made plans for him and his son for that week. This young man went there with the impression he was going to see his friends. It would have been way easier t drop Dylan off that night instead of getting up at the crack of dawn the next day...

Granted I do not think Mark expected Dylan to go to his friends that night only because HE DID NOT TALK TO HIM before the trip. No plans were made by MR but young Dylan had plans of his own.

He was not being a parent IMO.


All JMO

 

[SCHMAE]

Wouldnt it have been nice if this parent had made plans for him and his son for that week. This young man went there with the impression he was going to see his friends. It would have been way easier t drop Dylan off that night instead of getting up at the crack of dawn the next day...

Granted I do not think Mark expected Dylan to go to his friends that night only because HE DID NOT TALK TO HIM before the trip. No plans were made by MR but young Dylan had plans of his own.

He was not being a parent IMO.


All JMO

I don't know how big a deal the no plans for the week were. Men are much better than women at ' playing it by ear'. The DH's plans daily are work , eat , sleep . He plans nothing else . If any other plan is made it 's thrust upon him. He makes no plans himself. IDK if that just a male thing or not. It just doesn't concern me too much.

Same thing with mcdonalds. I don't find anything ' telling' about driving through it. I have not eaten inside a mcd's since the kids were young enough to play on the playground inside, so well over a decade now !

 

[The Cheese]

person of interest has no legal definition.

Imo anyone can use this term but it has no meaning - legally. The phrase was coined by the media during the olympic bombing to describe their perceived treatment of the security guard richard jewell by le.

Yes, I'm aware of the history of the term. It would be interesting to see what would happen if non-LE people started naming their own POIs.

 

[ColdHands]

How much has local LE spent on ths investigation? I've been monitoring the La Plata county website but they don't publish monthly reports. The 2013 budget includes additional salary and overtime for the sheriffs department, but there were 3 non investigative positions added so I assume that's for that. The OT budget for 2013 is $39k. Budget was approved in mid-December:
http://co.laplata.co.us/sites/defau...ocuments/final_budget_proposed_2013_small.pdf

Here is a statement about the Kyron Horman investigation, 4 months after his disappearance:

The Multnomah County board of commissioners this morning granted Sheriff Dan Staton $209,656 to cover the first three months of overtime and the salary of a temporary investigative technician for the Kyron Horman investigation.

The sheriff's office announced last month it has spent more than $1 million in the investigation into 7-year-old Kyron's disappearance, forcing it to pull back some of its resources from the case and seek assistance from outside agencies.

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/10/multnomah_county_approves_2090.html

Is there a way to benchmark spending on a prolonged missing child case? Probably not because they are all different. But I bet the high profile prolonged investigations typically run a million or more, to investigate and then to prosecute. A lot of money for a small county.

What do locals think about the expenditure? I have not seen anything on the county site or in MSM about the amount spent so far and how it will be absorbed by the county or if special funding has been applied for and/or approved.

If I were local and wanted to put pressure on LE, I'd message the county board, send them the Kyron info, and ask how this investigation is getting paid for. Not to protest the costs, but to get accountability and oversight at the county level. I have reviewed the agendas of the meetings and it has not been addressed.

 

[Eileen730]

I don't know how big a deal the no plans for the week were. Men are much better than women at ' playing it by ear'. The DH's plans daily are work , eat , sleep . He plans nothing else . If any other plan is made it 's thrust upon him. He makes no plans himself. IDK if that just a male thing or not. It just doesn't concern me too much.

Same thing with mcdonalds. I don't find anything ' telling' about driving through it. I have not eaten inside a mcd's since the kids were young enough to play on the playground inside, so well over a decade now !

I think he should have contacted his son long before and asked him what hed like to do that week.

Not wait for him to land and drag him off to walmart.

Dylan made plans and mark had none.

 

[ColdHands]

He was getting child suport!
why didnt he buy him a coat!

You cannot dictate how child support is spent. Trust me, I know this VERY well. I pay, but I also buy my kids everything they need. I do it because their dad will not and it only hurts the kids to put them in the crossfire of a who's-paying-for-what argument.

 

[azgrandma]

I believe they were poised to check dumpsters/landfills IF they felt they needed to. I don't think they thought they needed to but I don't know what ever came of that. That's the last I heard.

Out here in AZ, several cities use the same landfill. When Jaysee (spelling of the little girls name escapes me ) LE had the trucks stop dumping in a particular area for several weeks so that they could preserve the area just in case they needed to search it. Which eventually they did search the landfill.

I would think that in an area that is much smaller, LE would have requested this and the people in charge would have agreed to it. At least I hope so.

 

[TxLady2]

JMO but the only way we will know if he is indeed a suspect is when he is arrested or they are actually searching for him to be arrested. They don't name/call/identify/consider suspects publicly these days for legal reasons. They sometimes clear people though, however nobody has been cleared. Frankly, I don't need LE to officially tell me if MR is a suspect or not, I watch what LE & key players do and not do, then put it together to form an opinion.

I agree totally! There is no reason for them to call him a suspect publicly. Generally speaking, LE usually considers the last known person to see a missing person a suspect or POI, until they can clear them, or gather enough evidence to arrest somebody... whether it's that person or someone else.

When they tell the public that no one has been officially cleared, that is for a reason, too. They either want to keep MR comfortable so he'll talk, or they have another alternative theory they're checking out. I doubt it, but LE doesn't close doors until they know there's nothing behind them.

 

[ColdHands]

I think he should have contacted his son long before and asked him what hed like to do that week.

Not wait for him to land and drag him off to walmart.

Dylan made plans and mark had none.

ITA! Mark and ER's inability to communicate should never have prevented Mark from talking to his son.

 

[ColdHands]

Out here in AZ, several cities use the same landfill. When Jaysee (spelling of the little girls name escapes me ) LE had the trucks stop dumping in a particular area for several weeks so that they could preserve the area just in case they needed to search it. Which eventually they did search the landfill.

I would think that in an area that is much smaller, LE would have requested this and the people in charge would have agreed to it. At least I hope so.

I agree! This is independent of who is suspect - it is all about finding Dylan!

 

[The Cheese]

You list excellent reasons for why Mark has not been ruled out. Why do you think others have not been ruled out? It still is strange to me, that the SOs are clear but not people who presumably were 5 hours' drive away.

I haven't seen LE say the sex offenders (or anyone else) were ruled out or cleared, only that they had alibis. Not even whether their alibis were solid ones.

Phippen said all of the local registered sex offenders had been checked out and had alibis for
the 48-hour period from when Dylan arrived at the airport to the time he was reported missing.

http://durangoherald.com/apps/pbcs....unteers-search-for-Dylan&template=printpicart

 

[Eileen730]

You cannot dictate how child support is spent. Trust me, I know this VERY well. I pay, but I also buy my kids everything they need. I do it because their dad will not and it only hurts the kids to put them in the crossfire of a who's-paying-for-what argument.

Hey I agree, but he could have very well bought his son a coat if he was so concerned about it. It was just a jab at Elaine.
JMO

Just like her drinking and then he cant do a poly cause he drank to much the night before.

she didnt send him with a coat but he didnt run out to buy one!

JMO

 

[Eileen730]

ITA! Mark and ER's inability to communicate should never have prevented Mark from talking to his son.

Yeppers and Elaine should have spoken to MR before she sent her son, just to touch base, see what they planned to do if they were going anywhere.
I dont care if you get along or not you want to know where and what your child is doing even if its with DAD!

JMO

 

[TxLady2]

Or maybe he didn't buy him a jacket at Walmart because he knew he wouldn't need it. MOO.

Or maybe he has had to buy things for him before when he didn't bring something he needed. Maybe he was teaching Dylan to be responsible and think about what he would need instead of depending on Mom to pack his things.
Some kids are picky, and you can't always find a decent looking cheap coat at the beginning of winter at Wal Mart.
I can't tell you how many times my stepkids' mom would send them down here for the entire summer with one scruffy pair of sneakers, and no decent church clothes. We ended up buying shoes and clothes for all 3 of them every summer.

 

[SCHMAE]

I think he should have contacted his son long before and asked him what hed like to do that week.

Not wait for him to land and drag him off to walmart.

Dylan made plans and mark had none.

Ok I agree that it's lame . I just don't agree that it is suspicious
or hinky or makes him look guilty of anything other than not making
plans. It just seems very male typical. ( sorry males)

 

[ColdHands]

Out here in AZ, several cities use the same landfill. When Jaysee (spelling of the little girls name escapes me ) LE had the trucks stop dumping in a particular area for several weeks so that they could preserve the area just in case they needed to search it. Which eventually they did search the landfill.

I would think that in an area that is much smaller, LE would have requested this and the people in charge would have agreed to it. At least I hope so.

I was reading about that case last night. Jhessye Shockley. They searched the landfill for about 6 months. Cost the city $750,000. Eta: oops 4 months

http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/regio...winding-down-jhessye-shockley-landfill-search

How much is La Plata county spending? And is there a way to get the county board to pay attention to the case? I have another post above about this as well.

 

[TxLady2]

I don't know how big a deal the no plans for the week were. Men are much better than women at ' playing it by ear'. The DH's plans daily are work , eat , sleep . He plans nothing else . If any other plan is made it 's thrust upon him. He makes no plans himself. IDK if that just a male thing or not. It just doesn't concern me too much.

Same thing with mcdonalds. I don't find anything ' telling' about driving through it. I have not eaten inside a mcd's since the kids were young enough to play on the playground inside, so well over a decade now !

I'm also not one to make plans well in advance, and when my hubby's kids visited, we just played it by ear as well. As for Thanksgiving, we sometimes are not sure where we will be until a day or two before. To me, it's no big deal to just be spontaneous. Life's more fun that way.

 

[TxLady2]

He was getting child suport!
why didnt he buy him a coat!

Are you sure about that?? I've never heard of a father getting child support
unless they had primary custody. Elaine had primary custody of Dylan, why would she have been paying HIM child support??!!
In fact, even when they shared custody, I can't understand why he would have been getting it, so is that a fact or is it speculation? Inquiring minds want to know.

 

[Eileen730]

Are you sure about that?? I've never heard of a father getting child support
unless they had primary custody. Elaine had primary custody of Dylan, why would she have been paying HIM child support??!!
In fact, even when they shared custody, I can't understand why he would have been getting it, so is that a fact or is it speculation? Inquiring minds want to know.

Elaine was paying him!
Now he has to pay Elaine!