CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #42

[NC Analyzer]

Good point! Especially given that Dylan's flight was delayed from Sat to Sun, AND took off late on Sun. He could've done the shopping then. He could've texted Dylan and asked what cereal he wanted and picked it up on the way to the airport, especially since Mark knew he'd be back in town the very next morning and he did in fact intend to do add'l grocery shopping that day. If Mark's intent truly was to go to a sit down dinner, the trip to Walmart, after Dylan's flight arrived late, doesn't make sense, IMO.

It's these sorts of things that makes me lean toward premeditation. I'm still split between two theories, premed or spontaneous, that both involve Mark.

Moo

I go back and forth between premeditation and spontaneous myself. I can see this both ways.

I definitely agree with all the time MR had waiting on Dylan's arrival...wondering why he didn't get the mundane things taken care of. I also recall MR giving conflicting statements about the food shopping. Wonder what that was all about. One he said he had to pick up a week's worth of groceries, another he said a couple of days worth, then it was followed by his claim to text Dylan about what he might need to pick up to eat on Monday when he was out and about. (not exact quotes, just paraphrasing). Seems like he spent an awful lot of time thinking about groceries after Dylan arrived, but not so much prior to Dylan's arrival. Very weird, IMO.

 

[SCHMAE]

Is there a ' pictures ' link? Where there are all pictures in one place or do you have to go through all msm to see what's there? TIA !

 

[lillygator]

It's 100% true. Elaine was paying MR child support up until the recent custody change. Not only did her payments to him stop, he had to start paying her child support.

As ridiculous as that is, it is true. They had shared custody and she was the bread winner so she had to pay him although he rarely had the kids.

BBM, I hadn't read this until today, but bingo - MOTIVE!

 

[NC Analyzer]

I'm fine with it meaning nothing to you, but it means something to me when LE states that someone is not considered a suspect, in this case, two someones - Mark and Elaine. To me, it means that right now, neither Mark nor Elaine is considered a suspect so far as LE is concerned.

That's my opinion only, and you are certainly entitled to yours. No problem!

I never said it meant nothing to me. I said the wording is irrelevant in terms of what LE knows or doesn't know about their suspect. Some suspects are better off thinking they aren't a suspect. It serves a purpose to keep them thinking that.

You may not consider Mark or Elaine to be a suspect. My point was to show that LE merely made a public statement advising that no one has been named a suspect. That statement can only be worded so many ways.

 

[fedfan4life]

I don't think it matters if LE has named POIs or suspects or cleared anyone (other than 9 area RSOs).

MR is the last KNOWN person to see Dylan. He hasn't passed a poly. He has a history of DV and hiding his children. He is openly hostile to his ex wife and has accused her of poisoning the children against him. There has been a recent change in custody and child support. His accounts of the Sunday and Monday prior to Dylan's disappearance have been rambling, evasive and at times inconsistent.

Does anyone seriously think MR is not under LE scrutiny/suspicion? All MOO

Apparently, yes...

 

[Salem]

~Respectfully snipped~

:waitasec: I disagree with the idea that the Dr Phil statement is the most recent. The shows were aired 2/26 & 2/27, which would indicate they'd received the statement and LE had released the statement prior to that. Conversely, the article stating no named suspects, wealth of evidence, etc is dated 2/28. (And the considered quote directly from LE was 3 months ago.)



Moo

This is fine, but you have been asked for a link to a more current statement. Do you have one? If not, that's fine and it will be considered that DrPhil's statement is the most current until someone links otherwise.

Thanks,

Salem

 

[*Lash*]

I refer to Sierra Lamar quite a bit. LE had their suspect, with DNA, GPS on his vehicles and made a choice not to arrest him hoping he would lead them to her body. Sadly, it did not work. Her body has still not been found. It is a good example of how LE really works.

 

[The Cheese]

It means NOTHING!

I never said it meant nothing to me. I said the wording is irrelevant in terms of what LE knows or doesn't know about their suspect. Some suspects are better off thinking they aren't a suspect. It serves a purpose to keep them thinking that.

I'm sorry. When you said it means nothing, I assumed you meant nothing to you, since you were the person who stated it. Thanks for clarifying.

You may not consider Mark or Elaine to be a suspect. My point was to show that LE merely made a public statement advising that no one has been named a suspect. That statement can only be worded so many ways.

I'm following LE because they've released very little info, and they know more about this case than I do, specifically this -

the father is not considered a suspect, said Capt. Jim Ezzell, chief investigator with the La Plata County Sheriff's Office

and this -

Neither Dylan’s father, Mark Redwine, or mother Elaine Redwine, are considered suspects by the Sheriff’s Department.

and this -

We have not identified anyone as a person of interest or as a suspect during the entire investigation.

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If LE comes out a half hour from now and states Joe Blow or Mary Smith is a suspect or person of interest, I'll follow them with that for the same reason - they've released very little solid info on this case, and they know more about the case than I do.

I don't have a need right now to pick a suspect for myself, and if for some reason I had to (can't imagine what the reason would be), I would be unable to because of the lack of the kind of evidence I need in order to focus on a specific person or persons. In most cases I find it pretty easy. In this one I don't. So until LE tosses out something I can grab on to, I'll be stuck where I am.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

Just because noone has been NAMED as an official POI or suspect means nothing. I'm sure they have a list of POI's. All POI means is a person of interest. Somebody who might be involved. They don't like to name POI's because as the investigation moves on sometimes their POI's change and people often mistake POI to be the same as suspect. So I'm sure they have a list. I'm sure that Elaine, Cory, DH, MH as well as many others closely associated with Dylan are on there. As the investigation continues I'm sure they move those POI's around and I have zero doubt who is at the top of the list. They are not stupid. Come on, they would have to be totally incompetent to not have him there. But there is no point whatsoever in them officially naming him a POI unless and until they are ready to arrest him. If/when that happens he will be officially named suspect number one.

It is my understanding that up until now he has been talking and cooperating with LE for the most part. It's in the best interest of the investigation to keep this going. Once he's named a POI or suspect he Lawyers up and shuts up. None of us want that at this point and neither does LE.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

I refer to Sierra Lamar quite a bit. LE had their suspect, with DNA, GPS on his vehicles and made a choice not to arrest him hoping he would lead them to her body. Sadly, it did not work. Her body has still not been found. It is a good example of how LE really works.

Good example. And I think when LE thinks there's a possibility that the victim may still be alive and the perp might lead them to a live person they are even less likely to name a suspect.

 

[Skbale]

LE probably also doesn't want to tip its hand at all, because if they did it might motivate the perpetrator to potentially endanger the community, themselves or the family. Better to pacify the situation and keep them unaware of how close an arrest may be.

 

[NC Analyzer]

I'm sorry. When you said it means nothing, I assumed you meant nothing to you, since you were the person who stated it. Thanks for clarifying.



I'm following LE because they've released very little info, and they know more about this case than I do, specifically this -

the father is not considered a suspect, said Capt. Jim Ezzell, chief investigator with the La Plata County Sheriff's Office

and this -

Neither Dylan’s father, Mark Redwine, or mother Elaine Redwine, are considered suspects by the Sheriff’s Department.

and this -

We have not identified anyone as a person of interest or as a suspect during the entire investigation.

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If LE comes out a half hour from now and states Joe Blow or Mary Smith is a suspect or person of interest, I'll follow them with that for the same reason - they've released very little solid info on this case, and they know more about the case than I do.

I don't have a need right now to pick a suspect for myself, and if for some reason I had to (can't imagine what the reason would be), I would be unable to because of the lack of the kind of evidence I need in order to focus on a specific person or persons. In most cases I find it pretty easy. In this one I don't. So until LE tosses out something I can grab on to, I'll be stuck where I am.

Just for your consideration. Perhaps Mark Redwine looks at the fact that LE hasn't named him a suspect or a POI. Now what would he be thinking? Just a guess, but I would imagine his thoughts would be somewhat like <modsnip>

"Well, LE hasn't named me a suspect, so I must not be a suspect. I can say anything I want. I can go anywhere I want. I can do whatever I want. They don't suspect me. I can talk all I want and nothing I say can be used against me. I don't need an attorney, I'm not a suspect. They haven't even named me a POI, so they must not suspect me. I'm cool. I'm in the clear!"

<modsnip>
My only hope is MR doesn't see the flaw in this thinking. LE needs him to keep up the good work.

<modsnip>

I would prefer to drop this issue, however, because I foresee that we will never end up on the same page, so I would rather not discuss it with you further. No disrespect intended.

 

[SCHMAE]

Good example. And I think when LE thinks there's a possibility that the victim may still be alive and the perp might lead them to a live person they are even less likely to name a suspect.

Great point ! Hopefully the lack of LE making an arrest means that they do believe he's still alive

 

[SCHMAE]

:sweep: Not sure what it means, but doesn't it make you smile ?

 

[ColdHands]

There is anger today on the FMDR Facebook page.

 

[cluciano63]

Great point ! Hopefully the lack of LE making an arrest means that they do believe he's still alive

Yet they went ahead searching the lake again. So I believe they have nothing to tell them one way or the other, no evidence showing he is dead, nothing to make them think he is not. Again, like too many other cases.

 

[Tennlyn]

:sweep: Not sure what it means, but doesn't it make you smile ?

dang it all...i'm supposed to be vacuuming up furballs today. did you have to remind me?!

 

[rebeccaeee]

There is anger today on the FMDR Facebook page.

There was much more last night before the mods removed the posts. Brief synopsis: MR's niece posted a plea from him. The replies to the post were not positive. Post was removed. Commentary from admin issued this morning.

ETA: And now a lovely response posted from Elaine.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

Great point ! Hopefully the lack of LE making an arrest means that they do believe he's still alive

Common sense would tell me that with MR's history they probably absolutely thought this was possible in the beginning. But common sense also tells me and LE knows too, that the longer he's gone the less likely we are going to find a live person.

 

[jadejazzkayla]

It is when your "liberty is restricted." When LE tells you, you are not longer free to go, if you wish. That is "in custody."

Salem

A bit O/T - This issue was discussed thoroughly in the Casey Anthony trial revolving around when the detective had her in the car and drove her around looking for Caylee. Defense said her liberty was restricted and she should have been Mirandized. Prosecutors said she was not "in custody." They were going to the places where she said she last saw Caylee. She was not a suspect at the time - she was the mother of a missing child.

It was really good. I'd link it, but at this point in time, I have no idea where to even find it.

bbm... I think this is the pertinent information. Le was not legally obligated to mirandize Casey because she was not deemed a suspect.