CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #42

[NC Analyzer]

I think you are spot on about the groups of friends who hang together and I agree 100% that T is not part of this core group. MR knows about T because of proximity.

I suspected as much....it would also explain why LE just lets him keep talking and talking and talking and...

I'm pretty sure MR or someone he knows reads here. There is plenty of defense theories on here for him to pick and choose from. Always found it interesting that he has used some of them in his many stories! :moo:

 

[The Cheese]

I'm not certain what LE means on a lot of their statements - their word choice is different and slightly off the norm. I interpret that to mean that there was no outgoing text, I do not interpret it to mean there were no incoming messages. IMO it's tricky language that could go either way.

I agree that LE means no further outgoing text from Dylan, because LE stated in their press release -

9:37 p.m. Dylan’s last electronic device communication (texting)

Not the device's last communication, or just "last electronic device communication (texting)", but specifically Dylan's last communication.

I really like that Websleuths recognizes our individuality, and allows us to interpret the facts, each in our own unique way.

Here's one of the links that has the exact wording from LE's press release - http://www.thedenverchannel.com/new...3-year-old-dylan-redwine-in-durango-vallecito

 

[SuperMom1995]

Well, I suppose you can believe it's "tricky", but in my experience, which is considerable with LE and their statements, they aren't "tricky".
Plain language. NO COMMUNICATION, means no communication. I also recall other statements from Bender about nothing on his phone....which means nothing on his phone including texts, but I'm not up to links or arguing semantics.

And if I may interject, having the cumulative years that NC does in Child Protective Services, she has worked extremely close with LE, while also naturally building and honing her own instincts, as they pertain to child abuse and neglect and all kinds of domestic crimes. And then a lot of the parents she has worked with (or against have an extensive criminal background in other areas. My point is, working in that field for the amount of years she has, gives NC a ton of experience, instinct and knowledge in many different areas, so when she speaks I listen. :clap:

 

[NC Analyzer]

And if I may interject, having the cumulative years that NC does in Child Protective Services, she has worked extremely close with LE, while also naturally building and honing her own instincts, as they pertain to child abuse and neglect and all kinds of domestic crimes. And then a lot of the parents she has worked with (or against have an extensive criminal background in other areas. My point is, working in that field for the amount of years she has, gives NC a ton of experience, instinct and knowledge in many different areas, so when she speaks I listen. :clap:

Awww....thanks :blushing:

 

[Tennlyn]

Just my :twocents:.

I'm still not convinced that Dylan ever made it to Mark's, although the scenarios being suggested here are intriguing.

I think it's possible that Bender's statements about something either happening at the house or after Dylan left the house could be intentionally misleading. To admit that they don't think Dylan arrived at Mark's would essentially mean that Mark is their suspect, and LE clearly isn't ready to name their suspect yet. :moo::moo::moo:

Is that a possibility?

 

[rebeccaeee]

Just my :twocents:.

I'm still not convinced that Dylan ever made it to Mark's, although the scenarios being suggested here are intriguing.

I think it's possible that Bender's statements about something either happening at the house or after Dylan left the house could be intentionally misleading. To admit that they don't think Dylan arrived at Mark's would essentially mean that Mark is their suspect, and LE clearly isn't ready to name their suspect yet. :moo::moo::moo:

Is that a possibility?

Yes- and as many have said, lack of evidence that Dylan was at the house does not mean Dylan was NOT at the house. LE may not know either way but by perpetuating the idea that Dylan was at the house, they do not lose the trust of MR.

 

[Dee10]

Just my :twocents:.

I'm still not convinced that Dylan ever made it to Mark's, although the scenarios being suggested here are intriguing.

I think it's possible that Bender's statements about something either happening at the house or after Dylan left the house could be intentionally misleading. To admit that they don't think Dylan arrived at Mark's would essentially mean that Mark is their suspect, and LE clearly isn't ready to name their suspect yet. :moo::moo::moo:

Is that a possibility?

I wondered that too, but although LE can lie like a rug to a suspect, I don't believe they are allowed to lie or intentionally mislead the public. Now he was talking off the cuff as his opinion & perhaps could potentially justify it later by staying that is was his opinion at that time, but....????

 

[NC Analyzer]

Just my :twocents:.

I'm still not convinced that Dylan ever made it to Mark's, although the scenarios being suggested here are intriguing.

I think it's possible that Bender's statements about something either happening at the house or after Dylan left the house could be intentionally misleading. To admit that they don't think Dylan arrived at Mark's would essentially mean that Mark is their suspect, and LE clearly isn't ready to name their suspect yet. :moo::moo::moo:

Is that a possibility?

Yep. I've been there as well. I'd also like to add, I personally have NO PROBLEM being wrong or admitting I'm wrong. I'm just trying to fit those pieces together. It works just as well with figuring he never made it to the house. I just couldn't figure out how to make it work if he actually DID make it to the house but didn't leave a trace....and no communication after that evening, not to mention it didn't look like they had much success with the truck...although we really don't know if they might have found something microscopic but not enough by itself to wrap things up.
I listened carefully when LE said they have a lot of evidence and it's like a jigsaw puzzle. Tells me a lot. Nothing by itself, but lots of pieces.
I still think they need a Dylan. And hopefully that will come soon.

 

[tresptip]

So far there are only 2 things that make me suspect the dad and that is 1. When his son text his mom letting her know he made it there he texted a frown face. 2. No footprints anywhere.

The frown face in the text message tells me he does not like being with his dad at all and that could cause problems.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

And lets not forget the football. Common sense tells me that if that were an old football they were tossing around LE would have no reason to take it because most likely Dylan's finger prints and DNA would be on it from previous visits. Sooo....that leads me to think that it was purchased that night at Walmart. Why else would LE take the football?
Sooo....that leads me to wonder if something like this happened. Hey Dylan lets go drive through McDonalds and get some food and take it over there to the park down the street and throw the football around? Dylan says he doesn't want to that it's too cold out and MR says just throw your jacket on, it's not that cold. Dylan says he didn't bring one. MR gets angry and says 'you gotta be kidding, what kind of Mother doesn't make sure her kid has a jacket for a week!!' Dylan gets mad and says 'don't talk about my Mother'. And Dylan is already mad that MR won't let him go to the friends. They go to the park and eat their food and toss the football around a little. They are still in Durango when Dylan replies to R's 8:01 texts and something happens. Now I realize it would have been dark out but a) is there a park that is lit up at night nearby and b) what if it was a glow in the dark nerf football?

Knowing where Dylan's phone was pinging at 8:01 is crucial. Perhaps this is why the search was between Durango and the lake?

We have to listen carefully to what is sensitive to MR. Dylan not having a jacket is a big issue. Why???

I think it's entirely possible that LE is leading a certain POI to think that they believe Dylan made it to the house when they know something to the contrary. I think it's entirely possible that it was Dylan's fishing pole that they found, but again they are trying to make a certain person feel comfortable that they have nothing because they need this certain person to talk and keep talking and they don't want this person to Lawyer up.

I have to say that I believe LE knows a lot more than we do. They are not stupid.

 

[Annie1004]

Because they don't have Dylan and do not know if he's ok or not.
If T went and banged on door and MR was gone and no one answered, then
there is no evidence of anything wrong, only MR's story that he was still at
home at 6 and that when he did leave ( in case he got his time wrong) DR should have been there sleeping on couch at 6. T or someone like T. Idk, just
brainswirl thinking !

But if LE "had the goods" (as in Sierra Lamar's case where no body has been found but a suspect is in jail for murder) on MR, they wouldn't need a body to press charges. But they would need irrefutable proof that MR is somehow involved.

Perhaps LE went round and round with MR, too, and they don't want to deal with him anymore, either.

 

[*Lash*]

I wondered that too, but although LE can lie like a rug to a suspect, I don't believe they are allowed to lie or intentionally mislead the public. Now he was talking off the cuff as his opinion & perhaps could potentially justify it later by staying that is was his opinion at that time, but....????

With missing Sierra Lamar, LE told the public they were looking for a Jetta w/a black hood. The public did not know LE already had the vehicle in custody. I tend to believe LE can tell half truths to the public if it means it will help them find a missing person or solve a murder.

 

[rebeccaeee]

I know, but I'm looking for a potential crime scene off the main road. A side road of some kind.

Only 3 or 4 roads near the marina on the side where T/MR live and no feeder rivers. Dishearteningly, on the opposite side where the search dogs went bonkers, the feeder river (the Los Pinos or the Pine) actually flows near County Road 501A for a bit and then the road crosses it. I am wondering if Pine River is heavy/swift/deep enough to have carried a body to the lake?
http://www.gorp.com/parks-guide/tra...ational-forest-colorado-sidwcmdev_056551.html

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

But if LE "had the goods" (as in Sierra Lamar's case where no body has been found but a suspect is in jail for murder) on MR, they wouldn't need a body to press charges. But they would need irrefutable proof that MR is somehow involved.

Perhaps LE went round and round with MR, too, and they don't want to deal with him anymore, either.

BBM

:floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh:

 

[asyousay]

Has there been any news today as so many pages to catch up on ?

Thank you in advance

 

[cluciano63]

Has there been any news today as so many pages to catch up on ?

Thank you in advance

No. Same old stuff.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

Doesn't anyone else besides me think it's incredibly odd that they drove through McDonalds and ate while driving home vs. going inside and eating? Especially since MR wanted to sit down and eat.

 

[rebeccaeee]

Doesn't anyone else besides me think it's incredibly odd that they drove through McDonalds and ate while driving home vs. going inside and eating? Especially since MR wanted to sit down and eat.

Not so much. Long drive home ahead, already dark or close to it. Esp for two guys who had not caught up in a long time. There might have been a certain level of awkwardness (no matter who it is- this part is not actually condemning MR) which is eased a bit by the distractions of the road.

 

[SCHMAE]

Not so much. Long drive home ahead, already dark or close to it. Esp for two guys who had not caught up in a long time. There might have been a certain level of awkwardness (no matter who it is- this part is not actually condemning MR) which is eased a bit by the distractions of the road.

Agreed,, McD's is just not a sit down place in my brain.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

Not so much. Long drive home ahead, already dark or close to it. Esp for two guys who had not caught up in a long time. There might have been a certain level of awkwardness (no matter who it is- this part is not actually condemning MR) which is eased a bit by the distractions of the road.

Well why would MR say he wanted to go sit down and eat somewhere if he wanted to get home and was feeling awkward?