CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #43

[Confusion]

So does Bayfield have both the Marshall's office and the SO?

I don't know why, but I had assumed that MR had to drive either to Durango or home as it would appear to me that his home would fall under the jurisdiction of the SO.

It appears to me that the Marshall's only have jurisdiction in Bayfield. Would that be correct? Jurisdiction can create numerous headaches I know, but the SO was quite quick in getting a search together.

I as well felt that is probably the reason for the later time on the report as the SO would of had jurisdiction thus he probably had to report it 2 times.

What I remember is that he reported it to the MO in Bayfield first because he was right there. ER said she called the SO, but also said it was the Bayfield police (which is the MO). The SO is in Durango, and either MR or the MO did eventually contact them too. MOO

Does anyone ever recall MR stating whether he had seen footprints or not?

I don't recall it, but I do know that I miss things when I have been travelling.

So very possible that I may of missed this part about MR seeing footprints.

I don't remember him ever mentioning any, but sometimes it is rather hard to follow what it is he's talking about.

 

[Allusonz]

MR has never said anything at all about searching, seeing or not seeing footprints.

I am pretty sure that on the big search he was there as I believe I saw him on the news cast from one of the stations that covered it.

I would think in the beginning he was probably told not to participate which usually is SOP. I could be wrong though.

 

[Dee10]

I am pretty sure that on the big search he was there as I believe I saw him on the news cast from one of the stations that covered it.

I would think in the beginning he was probably told not to participate which usually is SOP. I could be wrong though.

I was answering your question about footprints only.

 

[Allusonz]

What I remember is that he reported it to the MO in Bayfield first because he was right there. ER said she called the SO, but also said it was the Bayfield police (which is the MO). The SO is in Durango, and either MR or the MO did eventually contact them too. MOO



I don't remember him ever mentioning any, but sometimes it is rather hard to follow what it is he's talking about.

So would this mean that ER contacted the Marshall's office and not the SO? Yikes I do not know what to think now. I would think ER would know if she called Bayfield or Durango.

I can see the Marshall's office sending MR to the SO as that would have jurisdiction. Now I am uncertain as to whom ER contacted.

 

[Allusonz]

I was answering your question about footprints only.

Oh sorry, did not mean to cause confusion!!

My apologies.

 

[findDylan]

With regards to the footprints... If Dylan went to the lake to fish, hang out, or just go for a walk wouldn't there be prints along the bank of the lake? How about the camp ground? I imagine it's dirt and would hold prints as well.

 

[Confusion]

So would this mean that ER contacted the Marshall's office and not the SO? Yikes I do not know what to think now. I would think ER would know if she called Bayfield or Durango.

I can see the Marshall's office sending MR to the SO as that would have jurisdiction. Now I am uncertain as to whom ER contacted.

She's never said she contacted the Marshall's Office, that's what's so confusing about it. She said she called the Sheriff's Office (which is in Durango), then later she said she called the police, and added "Bayfield police". Who knows? MOO

 

[Allusonz]

With regards to the footprints... If Dylan went to the lake to fish, hang out, or just go for a walk wouldn't there be prints along the bank of the lake? How about the camp ground? I imagine it's dirt and would hold prints as well.

Am I incorrect that it was stated that ER did not find footprints?

There was alot of discussion regarding this and since there was an unusual tread on his shoe.

When CR asked why MR saw the fishing pole before the bike and footprints, it led me to believe that footprints were indeed found. One never really knows as LE has kept much quiet about this.

 

[Ronald99]

http://www.durangoherald.com/articl...09802/0/News01/Area-reservoirs-searched-again

(“He was happy sitting at home on the couch wrapped in a blanket playing video games with mom in the kitchen,” said Denise Hess, a family friend who is passing out fliers, collecting donations and organizing searches from her store, Plaza Video, in Bayfield.)

Sometimes I really beleve MR repeats statements he's previously read from news articles !!

 

[Allusonz]

She's never said she contacted the Marshall's Office, that's what's so confusing about it. She said she called the Sheriff's Office (which is in Durango), then later she said she called the police, and added "Bayfield police". Who knows? MOO

Thanks !

So I was correct in my assumption then that Bayfield only has the MO and Durango would be the SO?

I had found this confusing earlier and want to make sure I am understanding this. That is contradictory though if she contacted Bayfield I would think.

 

[cluciano63]

I don't understand why it matters who ER called. Is it about doubting her or trying to trip her up?

 

[Ronald99]

Am I incorrect that it was stated that ER did not find footprints?

There was alot of discussion regarding this and since there was an unusual tread on his shoe.

When CR asked why MR saw the fishing pole before the bike and footprints, it led me to believe that footprints were indeed found. One never really knows as LE has kept much quiet about this.

I don't believe there was ever any discovery of Dylan's footprints or likeness of the tread pattern of the type of shoes he was wearing at or in front of MR house.

Now I remember a news article that stated one of the scent dogs may have detected Dylan's scent in front of MR house, But it was ruled inconclusive.

 

[findDylan]

Am I incorrect that it was stated that ER did not find footprints?

There was alot of discussion regarding this and since there was an unusual tread on his shoe.

When CR asked why MR saw the fishing pole before the bike and footprints, it led me to believe that footprints were indeed found. One never really knows as LE has kept much quiet about this.

No footprints were found (or if they were LE isn't saying). If there were no prints found then Dylan most likely didn't go to the lake or camp ground and I am going to assume that he didn't go the the rock wall behind MR's house either. IMO, MOO

 

[The Cheese]

I don't understand why it matters who ER called. Is it about doubting her or trying to trip her up?

I think it's about discussing all the details of the case, like everybody's done for 43 pages.

 

[Allusonz]

I don't understand why it matters who ER called. Is it about doubting her or trying to trip her up?

Nope it is regarding the time frame as many have made note of the 6pm report time. I can see if MR went to Bayfield, then had to drive to Durango for the time of the report.

If the SO is in Bayfield then that would be different.

I can confuse myself enough in this case so just want to make sure that I am understanding where each jurisdiction is.

 

[Ghostwheel]

Thanks I did but I don't recall mention of any other family members

I as well was surprised by the statement by CR about the footprints.

How could MR of noticed footprints if there were none?

The bike wasn't missing either. I took what Cory said as "Why would the first thing Mark noticed be a missing fishing pole, when he didn't look for the bike or footprints from Dylan?" The thought being, you walk into the house, your son is not there, you don't remember if the fishing pole was in the house or garage (Mark said that it could be in different places), but you are sure THAT is missing along with your son, yet you didn't look to see if his bike was missing, or look for footprints to see where your son has gone.

That is what I got out of Cory's statement. I have not read of any claim that Mark looked for footprints.

 

[The Cheese]

Thanks !

So I was correct in my assumption then that Bayfield only has the MO and Durango would be the SO?

I had found this confusing earlier and want to make sure I am understanding this. That is contradictory though if she contacted Bayfield I would think.

Maybe she called both Bayfield Marshall and the Sheriff's office. The sheriff's office is county wide so maybe for more coverage? I don't know. If that were the case I would think she'd have filed a missing person report with the sheriff.

 

[Allusonz]

No footprints were found (or if they were LE isn't saying). If there were no prints found then Dylan most likely didn't go to the lake or camp ground and I am going to assume that he didn't go the the rock wall behind MR's house either. IMO, MOO

Sorry, maybe I am just tired with jet lag here.

The night that ER arrived did they check the pavement and around MR's home for the footprints?

Or did they check the lake?

Or did they check the campground?

It was late when they arrived and I would think where they checked would be an important detail as I had thought ER stated they checked along the road. I remember the discussion as in rural areas it is dark so would be very difficult to see. Some suggested they had flashlights which would make sense in the dark.

Where they looked is an important detail considering CR mentioned that MR noted the fishing pole before the bike or footprints in the Dr. Phil show.

Must be the jet lad and just me being tired.

 

[song22]

So would this mean that ER contacted the Marshall's office and not the SO? Yikes I do not know what to think now. I would think ER would know if she called Bayfield or Durango.

I can see the Marshall's office sending MR to the SO as that would have jurisdiction. Now I am uncertain as to whom ER contacted.

In the uncut video with MB , MR says that he called ER from the Marshall's office. He says that ER called the sheriffs office. He then goes on to explain that there must have been some kind of lag in communication, because when she called the sherriff's office they hadnt heard from the marshall's office and didn't know anything about it. In this part of the video, MR seems to be explaining some possible discrepancy. It's in that video. I'm too tired to find the exact spot.

 

[Allusonz]

Maybe she called both Bayfield Marshall and the Sheriff's office. The sheriff's office is county wide so maybe for more coverage? I don't know. If that were the case I would think she'd have filed a missing person report with the sheriff.

This is a very important point that you have brought up.

I know I have filed reports by phone and usually LE will show up at the location I happen to be reporting from.

One would think if she had called about a missing child that they would of started paperwork at the minimum? Gotten details? MR's number? Things like that to follow up on until MR could get there?

I can't see this SO taking it lightly considering how fast they had search teams, FBI etc., involved.