CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #45

[Money Girl]

Wish we had a "verified insider" from MR's side of the family so that we can follow this from the whole system approach.

 

[Emma Ems]

Wish we had a "verified insider" from MR's side of the family so that we can follow this from the whole system approach.

Me too. I would really would like a whole, clearer picture.

 

[azgrandma]

I totally understand what you mean. I have actually said this in another forum defending a family member. So I truly do get the concept of this possibility of being wrong about the accusation. But in this case two family members absolutely are convinced that MR had something to do with it. That means a lot to me.

If they are wrong and Dylan comes home alive--He's ALIVE! Anything else can be dealt with. They can go to counseling about the blame and guilt and fetish stuff. they can work it out because he's alive!

If they are wrong and Dylan was killed by a stranger. Well, I believe 100% MR should do some self-reflection and try to understand why so very many people thought he could have killed his son. HE should go to counseling and deal with himself and his many issues. He has a chance to rebuild his life and find redemption.

If they are right, though, they must do everything to shout it from the rooftops and let the world know. If you really think someone is a killer, you try to get everyone to listen. If you feel so certain and you don't do everything you can, how could you live with yourself?

Don't you see? Dylan being killed far outweighs everything else! Finding Dylan far outweighs everything else, including someone's reputation or Dylan's possible future embarrassment.

:goodpost: I agree (BBM)

 

[scorekeeper]

Wish we had a "verified insider" from MR's side of the family so that we can follow this from the whole system approach.

Me too. I would really would like a whole, clearer picture.

I have always wondered why his brother didn't speak for Mark ( I remember Mark was anxiously awaiting his arrival). I believe he came to stay with Mark soon after Dylan disappeared.

 

[Confusion]

I have always wondered why his brother didn't speak for Mark ( I remember Mark was anxiously awaiting his arrival). I believe he came to stay with Mark soon after Dylan disappeared.

I think his sister would be more likely to join here personally.

 

[Bayou Mistress]

Do the ends justify the means? It depends on the goal. If the goal is good, then yes. But when it as an excuse to achieve goals through any means necessary, no matter how immoral, illegal or unpleasant the means may be it becomes an EXCUSE.

So, what is the goal? Find out what happened to Dylan? Find Dylan?

And justifying the public exposure of a man's kink or fetish seems, well malicious and working toward a goal other than finding out where or what happened to Dylan.

The info is out there. It's too late to undo. But don't defend this. By any standard of decency it's over the top where the fate of a 14 year old boy is at stake.

 

[Emma Ems]

I have been sitting here for the past few minutes thinking there was something I really needed to say, but I can't figure out what it is. It's been a long day today, my eyes are crossing so it looks to be bed time, maybe tomorrow I will figure out what was bugging me to come out! LOL Goodnight folks!

 

[scorekeeper]

I think post #309 from Tricia is helpful regarding the pictures.

I don't know how to bring a post over from another thread. Sorry.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=202255&page=13

 

[NC Analyzer]

It's not what is going on in the pictures that worried Elaine. It was the fact that her boys found the pictures and then found out that Dylan and his father had a conversation about these pictures on the visit before he disappeared.

In my opinion it's not what is going on in the picture as much as the pictures were of a disturbing nature, Dylan, found them, and approached his father.

The pictures could have been any number of other disturbing things and the same problem and concern would still be there.

I have invited Mark Redwine to come on the show. I hope he will.

Tricia

I think post #309 from Tricia is helpful regarding the pictures.

I don't know how to bring a post over from another thread. Sorry.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=202255&page=13

This one? :great:

 

[scorekeeper]

This one? :great:

oh, you are so psychic.....what gave it away, the post #?

:floorlaugh::floorlaugh:

(just kidding with you!!)

 

[NC Analyzer]

According to Elaine Redwine, and I am paraphrasing here, Dyan and his dad had a discussion about the photos on his trip in September.

The next time he visits his dad he disappears.

We have no idea if Dylan yelled at his dad about the pictures or just calmly asked him, "Why" or what the tone of the discussion was.

Was it a confrontational type discussion?

We do not know.

According to Dylan's brother he did talk to his dad about the pictures on the vist before he disappeared.

Some people speculate this is the motive Mark Redwine would have in this case. Anger at his son for bringing up the pictures. Especially if it was an argument.

This is why I hope Mark Redwine takes me up on my offer and comes on the show. I would love to hear his side of the story.

I couldn't sleep last night. Elaine Redwine's pain was so palatable and so deep that it has affected me to the point of having no ability to concentrate today.

My heart breaks for her and for all of Dylan's family.

Take Care,
Tricia

I thought this one was pretty good as well. :rocker:

 

[Bayou Mistress]

I'm interested in how the pictures made there way from Mark's computer to Dylan's eyes to Cory's possession. Who here has seen the pictures?

And, I really do not think I have to agree with anyone, not even Tricia. The pictures being brought up in public was in poor taste, period. IMO. I'd say humble opinion, but, well, I may have difficulty proving humility. :smile:

 

[Money Girl]

I thought this one was pretty good as well. :rocker:

As far as I know, the photos have not been authenticated. Were they just photoshopped pics for whatever reason? We don't know. So, I am not going to participate in playing armchair doctor for someone I have never spoken to in my life. If it makes you happy to do that, then carry on.

<modsnip>.

Now that I know that happened (and who knows what else that we are not privy to yet), then, I give MR a pass on not taking the polygraph on Dr. Phil.

 

[dlc]

Just wanted to pop in to post a quick snap I took on my iPad of the beautiful Dylan Hope charm and necklace that I received in the mail today.. For any who aren't familiar with them they have been offered in limited supply through the official FMDR Facebook page.. When I tried to order/purchase one I was told that they absolutely would not allow any payment for the Dylan Hope charm and necklace, nor would they even let me pay for the shipping..

I received it today with a beautiful note of thanks for supporting finding Dylan.. I was impressed that that they had not only included kind words of appreciation, but also used the opportunity to spread the Gospel.. this I found especially touching in that here they are in the greatest time of need themselves, yet taking the opportunity to share the Gospel to those who are possibly in a different type of need..

Thank you for sharing -- it's beautiful.

 

[NC Analyzer]

As far as I know, the photos have not been authenticated. Were they just photoshopped pics for whatever reason? We don't know. So, I am not going to participate in playing armchair doctor for someone I have never spoken to in my life. If it makes you happy to do that, then carry on.

<modsnip>

Now that I know that happened (and who knows what else that we are not privy to yet), then, I give MR a pass on not taking the polygraph on Dr. Phil.

BBM: If it makes me happy to do what? I haven't "played armchair doctor", all I did was copy a post made by TRICIA, who, as the owner of WS, has the right to post whatever she see's fit to post.
As someone stated earlier...don't shoot the messenger! If you have a problem with this particular post, perhaps you should take it up with the person who posted it.

 

[azgrandma]

I wonder what his excuse is for that one?

I'm sure plenty will be given for him to choose from.

 

[NC Analyzer]

I'm sure plenty will be given for him to choose from.

I absolutely agree with this. It appears he has a virtual smorgasbord to choose from if he is online with any frequency. Do you happen to know if he is working?

 

[azgrandma]

If MR did something to or with Dylan, he might get away with it. Curious that anyone who supports MR is suspicious. Could it be that the mail carrier saw what she saw and the old GF knew MR after his divorces? The old GF is in a better position to evaluate MR than an ex, IMO. Impeach anyone not on your train?

BBM - 6 mths of a relationship that was long distance IMO is not a better position than 18 years of living with a person. Heck if that were the case than the GF would not have gone to ER for advice.

 

[suzier]

I do not think it is my place to judge the actions of parents with missing children. I think desperation, fear, guilt, grief, and every emotion between must drive them. From that perspective I cannot find fault with either parent's actions.

IMO, publicizing the details of Mark's alleged fetish is cruel. I cannot envision how anything productive can come from it. Everyone has a breaking point. There has been a systematic/methodical increase of pressure or upping the ante on Mark.

The dissemination of the details has to be interfering in all aspects of MR's life. Not only his life but his family, too.

I firmly believe in treating prisoners humanely. I believe torture can come in may forms. Oftentimes, things are not as they seem. Digital photos are easily altered. I believe there are some things that should not be said.

I haven't read the transcripts yet. However, it seems if the compilation of questions were asked, there isn't any discussion of the answers. Does these latest revelations (which were already known by some) really overshadow all else formerly deemed important?

I don't think destroying MR will bring about results.

I had been thinking MR must be involved. These revelations are making me re-think that position. I think this knowledge has swung the pendulum in the opposite direction.

 

[NC Analyzer]

Truth can be very painful. Secrets and Lies can be very damaging...especially when they are exposed. And they are usually exposed, one way or another. A man's character is really all he has. This situation only shows all of us how important it is to live an honest, moral existence. If we choose not to, then we only have ourselves to blame when we are exposed. And with that, I must say goodnight.