CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #48

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  • #861
In the United States, a sheriff is a county official and is typically the top law enforcement officer of a county. Historically, the sheriff was also commander of the militia in that county. Distinctive to law enforcement in the United States, sheriffs are usually elected.


I was wrong!
I saw state sheriffs and they are sheriffs in states but are county officals
 
  • #862
No, not you in particular. Several people have said what they think MR should have answered. Suggesting what someone should have said is odd and attempts to imply that there is only one correct way of saying something.
Again, not calling you odd, but yes, the behavior of thinking you know a better answer than the person who said something is peculiar to me.

Nothing that MR said about Dylan not getting up the next morning strikes me as odd. Again, at that time, Dylan and MR had the week and it's options ahead of them.

But he did tell Dylan No!
We know that by dylans Text to Ryan.

I think the truth works wonders!

If MR had told what was really going on I think ppl might feel differently about him

JMO
 
  • #863
But he did tell Dylan No!
We know that by dylans Text to Ryan.

I think the truth works wonders!

If MR had told what was really going on I think ppl might feel differently about him

JMO

IMO, he did say what was going on. We just see it differently and that's okay.
 
  • #864
Are you saying im odd?

Wouldnt you say I told him he couldnt go the night before. It seems MR is trying to be the wonderful dad never said no to his son.... didnt he say that?

Well he said no the night before.

To me I would have said I wanted to spend time with him myself and told him id take him the next morning... But if he said that everyone knows Dylan would have been up and ready to go.

JMO

I know you feel this guy didnt do anything wrong here but I see sings you dont and feel alot is going unsaid.

JMO

Yep!

I think he knows exactly what he is doing with his words. Whether he thinks he can con his way out of something with ridiculous answers or he know he is in deep do-do, I don't know. At the end of the DR show, when Dr. Phil was giving him the 'offer with a shelf life', MR was almost whispering short answers (yes, he can do that) & tugging on his tye, he knew he hadn't conned DP & maybe with a little more time spent....:banghead:
 
  • #865
I've always thought both the movie and the nap were convenient elements to explain away blocks of time without having to go into detail. What has made me most suspicious of MR is the lack of urgency on his part both before and after it "hit him" that Dylan had vanished.

In one version of events, MR texts and calls Dylan numerous times that morning. In another, he says he tried texting Dylan all afternoon. Yet he's not really concerned and takes a nap of indeterminable length. He either talks to T or doesn't, then proceeds to N's house. He only knows where a couple of Dylan's friends live despite telling MB that he always knows where Dylan is and is even apt to drop in to make sure he's where he said he was going to be. Next he speaks to someone in LE and asks that officers be on the look out for Dylan, knock him upside the head and tell him to come on home. Even the next day, he tells the mail carrier that Dylan didn't come home last night, implying his absence was voluntary.

MR also tells MB that he's not doing much media because he wants the investigation to run it's natural course. All in due time, I suppose. And what does he expect from this investigation? For Dylan to be located? No, it's so MR can be cleared of any involvement.

I don't understand this lack of concern. The only way it makes sense to me is that MR knows there is no need for urgency. ALL JMO and MOO
 
  • #866
BBM
That's if MR actually spoke to a Marshal, and that is not proven. If the LE had confirmed that MR actually spoke with someone then it would be different. In fact, the last press release the SO specifically states that MR "attempted to contact" the Bayfield Marshals Office, so it puts MR's statement that he "contacted" someone, or "spoke to someone" in serious doubt, imo.



Only if he actually spoke with someone officially do I think that would be possible. I can definitely agree that if he spoke in person to one of the Marshals he may be speaking more in terms of that he casually "told them DR was missing", and not specifically that he "reported him missing" in any official way, but used that wording anyway.

The LE in their statement really didn't give us much indication besides the words "attempted to contact" the BMO, but exactly what that means with no other detail, and with MR's own conflicting statements, and the press reporting that he called, I think everyone's opinion on how he "attempted" to contact the BMO will remain a matter of personal opinion.

BTW: I'm really not attempting to invalidate your opinion in saying the above, just wanted to point out that factually we can't exactly take MR's word for it that he showed up at the MO and actually spoke with anyone given that the SO says only that he "attempted" to contact them. So by your saying "when" it's not actually an opinion anymore, but instead is stating it as fact that he did when this isn't what LE has stated. It's only what MR has said.

"The truth is out there" in regard to the MO story, so to speak - we just aren't privy to it at this point. And I think we'll have to wait to know what truly happened in regard to the MO for whatever reason - whether MR truly did speak to someone at the MO or not.

BBM

The press release didn't say "attempted to contact".

Here's what it did say

Mark Redwine, Dylan's father,had previously contacted the Bayfield Marshal's Office on the 19th attempting to learn if they had seen Dylan, and he then contacted Elaine asking if she had heard from Dylan.

http://www.pinerivertimes.com/news.asp?artid=1149
 
  • #867
I think the "She is making More of this than it really is!" comment Is very disturbing, how much MORE serious could it be?
 
  • #868
On Twitter

FindDylanRedwine @DylanRedwine: We will release a detailed report on where we are at and what we are doing tonite & 5 mt 7 est. #FindDylan
 
  • #869
I think the "She is making More of this than it really is!" comment Is very disturbing, how much MORE serious could it be?

I think that remark made in the early days of Dylan being missing support MR being unaware that four plus months later, we would all still be wondering were Dylan is and what happened. IIRC, it was in response to ER pointing at him.
 
  • #870
IMO, he did say what was going on. We just see it differently and that's okay.

Actually I dont think he did. He did talk about watching a movie and tossing a nerf football around but he never really made any comment about telling dylan he couldnt go to ryans that night and he would take him in the morning.

He said dylan was hopping arund on the sofa trying to get cell reception and when he went to bed he was still on his phone.. So if dylan was pearched on this sofa why couldnt they get a scent of him?

Just my thoughts on this!
 
  • #871
I think that remark made in the early days of Dylan being missing support MR being unaware that four plus months later, we would all still be wondering were Dylan is and what happened. IIRC, it was in response to ER pointing at him.

Sorry that was a very wrong thing to say. Your child is missing!
Your ex was worried enuff to call the cops right away you were not. You dont say things like that sorry .... Again JMO

One day is long enuff when you cant find your child!
 
  • #872
Actually I dont think he did. He did talk about watching a movie and tossing a nerf football around but he never really made any comment about telling dylan he couldnt go to ryans that night and he would take him in the morning.

He said dylan was hopping arund on the sofa trying to get cell reception and when he went to bed he was still on his phone.. So if dylan was pearched on this sofa why couldnt they get a scent of him?

Just my thoughts on this!

BBM

Dylan had asked his father whether he could go to his friends' that evening after they had shopped at Walmart and eaten at a McDonald's in Durango and before the 45-minute drive to Mark's home north of Vallecito Lake. Mark said he told his son it was too late. So Dylan texted friends in Bayfield, his father said, and made arrangements to meet them the next morning.

http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_22108222/dad-its-wait-wonder#ixzz2PnF4BnPb
 
  • #873
Actually I dont think he did. He did talk about watching a movie and tossing a nerf football around but he never really made any comment about telling dylan he couldnt go to ryans that night and he would take him in the morning.

He said dylan was hopping arund on the sofa trying to get cell reception and when he went to bed he was still on his phone.. So if dylan was pearched on this sofa why couldnt they get a scent of him?

Just my thoughts on this!

He did say it was too late. Even if he didn't tell us nosy lookie lous, who cares? I agree that MR does himself no favors when he opens his mouth, but until he is arrested, I'm going to assume LE's got this.

Sorry that was a very wrong thing to say. Your child is missing!
Your ex was worried enuff to call the cops right away you were not. You dont say things like that sorry .... Again JMO

One day is long enuff when you cant find your child!

Agreed, one day is long enough. I believe MR did attempt to contact the marshal's office. Again, if after finding out he never made it to R's MR went home and did nothing else, I'd be more suspicious.
 
  • #874
I think that remark made in the early days of Dylan being missing support MR being unaware that four plus months later, we would all still be wondering were Dylan is and what happened. IIRC, it was in response to ER pointing at him.

What happened to 'it doesn't matter who started the slinging or that it is not being productive'?
 
  • #875
BBM

Dylan had asked his father whether he could go to his friends' that evening after they had shopped at Walmart and eaten at a McDonald's in Durango and before the 45-minute drive to Mark's home north of Vallecito Lake. Mark said he told his son it was too late. So Dylan texted friends in Bayfield, his father said, and made arrangements to meet them the next morning.

http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_22108222/dad-its-wait-wonder#ixzz2PnF4BnPb

Since there are no direct quotes it appears to me the reporter summed up whatever MR said. :great:
 
  • #876
Since there are no direct quotes it appears to me the reporter summed up whatever MR said. :great:

That's been done pretty much throughout the whole case, and it's funny that we (yes, me included) pick and choose which articles we want to believe are MR's words or the reporter's take on MR's words.
 
  • #877
I really want to know what the Find Dylan Task Force thinks of the upcoming private efforts to search the lake. It would be very interesting to learn if they are working with or independent from the Task Force.
 
  • #878
I really want to know what the Find Dylan Task Force thinks of the upcoming private efforts to search the lake. It would be very interesting to learn if they are working with or independent from the Task Force.

Hopefully they will work with them, espcially if they find something.
 
  • #879
That's been done pretty much throughout the whole case, and it's funny that we (yes, me included) pick and choose which articles we want to believe are MR's words or the reporter's take on MR's words.

That wasn't the point, never-the-less it has since been verified from LE about Walmart/McDonalds & the texts so of course I believe it.
 
  • #880
I really want to know what the Find Dylan Task Force thinks of the upcoming private efforts to search the lake. It would be very interesting to learn if they are working with or independent from the Task Force.

I wonder this too. I am very curious how much interest/involvement LE is going to have this time. Maybe we'll hear something on this update tonight. It would be great if Bender would hold a press conference but I'm not holding my breath.
 
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