CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #5

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  • #261
I hate that this case are sooooo frustrating!

My one question (it may have been answered and I missed it) is......... Why couldn't the search dogs have used the sheets or pillow case Dylan slept on for his scent?
 
  • #262
I hate to keep sounding like MR's low rent public defender, but here I go again. First, the vigil was about 10 days after he disappeared, so it's really pretty understandable that MR and CR would slip into past tense at times and present tense at others; I've been wondering how much of what they said was included in the video, I'm sure everything had to be edited some to keep it a reasonable length. I'm sure they're both trying to be optimistic, but having a hard time staying that way by now. I also find it EXTREMELY hard to believe that MR has a violent temper and hasn't been in trouble for it in the 52(?) years he's been around. If he had been, I have no doubt we would have been reading about any charges that had been made against him (even if they were dropped or he was found not guilty). The press loves that stuff, and I'm sure LE checked it out early in the investigation.
Not trying to be snarky at all because I do appreciate your points. I just wanted to share that my dad had an violet temper when he was drinking and never once did he get in trouble with the law. Just saying it can happen.
 
  • #263
Well into Day 12 ~ WHERE are you Dylan?

Still on the fence!

How long does it take to process what or anything they might have found at dad's.
 
  • #264
For me, there are 4 seperate time blocks that need to be explained and accounted for seperately to begin to know what happened. We're not going to solve it here, but I think looking at it this way may put it into perspective.

1) 6-8pm Sunday

Dylan's plane lands, he arrives in Durango. Assume he is in fact picked up by dad (should be airport/flight policy).
What time did the flight land (airline should be able to get exact on this)?
Is there any footage in /outside of airport to confirm this?
What did Dylan have with him? Backpack, cell, charger, and the clothes he was wearing-- that much we know.
Did he have another piece of luggage?
Dylan texted mom that he arrived safely in Durango, text had scowly face. What exact time was this? Is LE certain this was Dylan who texted? What other specific communication did Dylan have that evening, with who, and what form? Who initiated it, what was said, what plans were made, how solidified were they, what was last said?
We believe he went grocery shopping w/dad to get food for the week -- where did they go shopping? Walmart? Has that been confirmed? How was it confirmed? Receipts? Credit card? Surveillance? Eye witnesses?
How long were they in the grocery store?
Is there any photo/video surveillance of dad's vehicle supposedly with Dad and Dylan in it on route back home from airport? Either from businesses, residents, traffic cams, etc.
What time does dad say they arrived home? Does dad have anything to potentially confirm this time of arrival?
Where were they at 8pm? When asked directly, where does dad say he and Dylan were at 8pm? Were they still driving, were they already at home? Was Dylan in bed, were they eating dinner, watching TV?
Where did Dylan's cell last ping at 8pm when it was last active? At dad's home? On the road? Somewhere else? What does dad have to say about Dylan's phone that evening/night? Did he take the cell away? Does he say there's no cell service? Did he notice Dylan turn the phone off? Could Dylan have dropped it outside in the driveway and lost it?
... I could go on but I'll spare you all... feel free to add if you want though..


2) 8pm - 7:30AM

What happened during these 11 1/2 hours? Perhaps the hardest to explain and our answer may well lie here.
Did Dylan make it to dad's house?
Did Dylan's backpack, cell, charger, and other items make it to dad's house?
What time did Dylan go to sleep? What time did Dad go to sleep? Did dad ever leave the house that night? Can anyone or anything confirm or place dad remaining at the house all night? Or place him leaving the house, out on the road, in town, anywhere but at home during these hours.
Was the home phone used?
Did Dad actually see Dylan at all, confirmed, alive during this time?
Where was Dylan's cell, why was it off or not working?
Basically... WTH happened during this time?

3) 7:30am - 11:30am

Dad goes to do errands. It's confirmed that he went to see his divorce atty. Was this planned in advance. If so, how far?
Did he make this appointment last minute? How long was he there-- was this his only appointment or did he have other errands?
Can the entire time he was supposedly out be accounted for or is there some unexplained time?
Did he have a cell phone and if so did he use it while he was out? Who did he call? Did his cell pings verify his whereabouts for that morning.
What do we know about Dylan during this time?
Are there any signs of break -in at dad's house?
Anything whatsoever to indicate outside foul play?
Anything to suggest someone familiar might've stopped by and Dylan willingly left but this turned sinister (ie.. different set of tire tracks)?
What was missing from the house, what's still there? Any sign(s) of what Dylan did that morning... breakfast, shower, trash? Any DNA traces- blood (from cuts? harm?), hair, etc.?


4) 11:30am - 4:30pm

What time did dad get home? How long did it take him to realize Dylan was missing?
When did he realize the fishing pole was missing, or did he, was that even a real concern that day?
What was the exact sequence of events for him.... who did he call, in what order, and what did he say to each, what questions did he ask, what information did he give, was he panicked, did he suggest calling LE or did Dylan's mom? What did he say on the 911 call?
Did he go searching through Dylan's things, if they were there?
Did he search around the house, yard, neighborhood, town, lake?
Can he be accounted for from the time he "got home" until the time he reported Dylan missing and was physically with LE? Aside from the time he was physically with Dylan's friends asking them where Dylan was?


I can see LE breaking down these initial 22 hours into these blocks because I think they each hold significant answers.

Alas, I have no answers... just a prayer.


These questions are all spot on. Answers would tell so much. Unfortunately any answers would be mostly from one person. I don't think there are any witnesses to anything. Only possibly the boy DR talked to when plans were changed. Did he talk to him or did they communicate by text? Who knows? jmo
 
  • #265
I thought initially Dad might have gone to the attorney's office to report info Dylan had shared with him. That's the first thing that popped in my mind.
 
  • #266
I think you would have to be a dreamer not to feel or think he is gone after that lenth of time whether you had anything to do with it or not. jmo

I, ruefully, agree.
It does not look good.

But on the other hand, finding him alive at this point
would be one heckuva miracel. C'mon kiddo !
 
  • #267
Not trying to be snarky at all because I do appreciate your points. I just wanted to share that my dad had an violet temper when he was drinking and never once did he get in trouble with the law. Just saying it can happen.

That made me think that an hours delay could have meant drinks in the airport bar while waiting???
 
  • #268
I'd like to know if dad looked like he slept at all Sunday night, and when/how long he slept after that.

How many hours had he been awake when he was at the vigil?
 
  • #269
I, ruefully, agree.
It does not look good.

But on the other hand, finding him alive at this point
would be one heckuva miracel. C'mon kiddo !

And I do believe in miracles. :please: jmo
 
  • #270
We raised 3 sons....never, ever came close to physical fighting. Can't even imagine such a thing. None of my sons had to "prove" something to their dad.

Amster,

Not going to get into a parental discussion....

But

Not actual physical fighting but the questioning of authority type of thing.

from article:

http://www.parentingteensonline.com...of_the_Teen__Growing_Up_With_Your_Kids/page/1

the father of two teenagers, has learned not to rise to the bait when his 17-year-old son mouths off to him. "If he had said that at 14, I would have punished him."

I know some fathers that won't back down when their son is "questioning" what they say...

And yes, my childhood neighbors would get into actual physical fights...

Dylan's dad has been described as a possible "mountain man, quiet guy"

I'm trying to find Dylan....and possibly understand Dylan's family dynamics
:seeya:
 
  • #271
Being on this fence is really starting to wear and tear on my butt.... But I refuse to come off of it yet. Hope you are all cozy in the tunnel...

IF....and its a big IF.... DR did not ever make it to Dads house, do you think it could be that they argued and he put the boy out of the vehicle. example..."you want to spend this weekend so bad with your Mother, well walk" or "you want to be with your friends over me, well walk" and then poof he disappeared. MR might be afraid now that he dug a hole with his story to tell the truth of what really happened. I am just drawing straws here and thinking of any scenerio that would make it that he did not make it to spend the night on Sunday night. My ex during the end of our relationship used to toss me out and tell me to walk, so just thinking this could happen....IMHO
 
  • #272
DurangoHerald ‏@DurangoHerald
Authorities concluded their search of Mark Redwine's house Thurs. at 9 p.m. and he gave police an official interview. #findDylan

Not much else being reported in the media today so far. Very quiet...
 
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  • #274
I hate that this case are sooooo frustrating!

My one question (it may have been answered and I missed it) is......... Why couldn't the search dogs have used the sheets or pillow case Dylan slept on for his scent?

If they exist, we haven't heard about them.


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  • #275
Not trying to be snarky at all because I do appreciate your points. I just wanted to share that my dad had an violet temper when he was drinking and never once did he get in trouble with the law. Just saying it can happen.
Absolutely. Just because a man has no record of violent offenses does NOT mean he would not engage in such behavior. I lived with a man for many years who had an unspeakable lifestyle and certainly, any violence needed was used, but he was/is never thought to be anything but wonderful and helpful to all. Because that's all that people see.
So really...you never know.
 
  • #276
So I'm trying to go at it this way: as I learned in JR's case reading between the lines is as important as reading them. So we know from LE that Dylan arrived in La Plata County and we know his phone was off at 8-ish.... So by my own deductions what they aren't saying is they know he arrived at dads house, hence the photos being asked for. The trucks at dads being taken away was strange, in JR's case yes they searched the house, probably cars too, but did not take them away. I watch a lot of CSI so I'm assuming they took them because they found evidence of something and need to do CSI-y stuff to it. MOO!!
 
  • #277
Where has it been reported that MR is an alcoholic or abused alcohol or had a drinking problem, etc.?
 
  • #278
Being on this fence is really starting to wear and tear on my butt.... But I refuse to come off of it yet. Hope you are all cozy in the tunnel...

IF....and its a big IF.... DR did not ever make it to Dads house, do you think it could be that they argued and he put the boy out of the vehicle. example..."you want to spend this weekend so bad with your Mother, well walk" or "you want to be with your friends over me, well walk" and then poof he disappeared. MR might be afraid now that he dug a hole with his story to tell the truth of what really happened. I am just drawing straws here and thinking of any scenerio that would make it that he did not make it to spend the night on Sunday night. My ex during the end of our relationship used to toss me out and tell me to walk, so just thinking this could happen....IMHO

Come on to the dark side. We have cookies, a wine cellar and pink faux rotary phone with sparkles.


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  • #279
Being on this fence is really starting to wear and tear on my butt.... But I refuse to come off of it yet. Hope you are all cozy in the tunnel...

IF....and its a big IF.... DR did not ever make it to Dads house, do you think it could be that they argued and he put the boy out of the vehicle. example..."you want to spend this weekend so bad with your Mother, well walk" or "you want to be with your friends over me, well walk" and then poof he disappeared. MR might be afraid now that he dug a hole with his story to tell the truth of what really happened. I am just drawing straws here and thinking of any scenerio that would make it that he did not make it to spend the night on Sunday night. My ex during the end of our relationship used to toss me out and tell me to walk, so just thinking this could happen....IMHO

Now that's one we hadn't thought of yet! Hmm...
 
  • #280
What LotusPawprint said/asked or the

Oh, yeah; what she/he said...
 
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