CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #5

[white rabbit]

ok searched public records and found three of their real estate dealings (mark and elaine).

his divorce lawyer appeared to represent one of the transactions. but he is located in cortez, colorado. NOT durango.

requesting mod approval to post the links? it's public record. my apologies if this has all been discussed. it's hard to catch up here. lol.

 

[mmmagique]

Facts as we know them:
1. Dylan's phone was not used after 8PM Sunday.
2. No one has heard from him outside his Father since 8pm Sunday.
3. He did not ride off on his bicycle that is parked outside the house.
4. He did not call anyone from the landline at his Dad's to tell them he was not coming.
5. He did not ask anyone to take him anywhere Monday morning.

Feel free to add to this but I think Mark Redwine "went missing" Sunday night at 8PM. My opinion only.....

Are we sure numbers 4 and 5 are facts? Or just speculation?

 

[SCHMAE]

Since Dylan had lived in that area for a long time, I think it's safe to say that he was experienced with things like hiking, wandering too far from home, overall safety regarding the wildlife and / or dangerous areas ( cliffs? ) in the area. I mean to say I think he did not meet with an accident while out in the wild. He knew the terrain well enough to know he could not WALK the several hours to his friends houses so I think the idea of a tragic accident due to conditions in the mountains is a non issue.
I think at this point only 1 of 2 things could have happened.

He left to hitchhike to friends and met with an abductor .
OR
Something happened with dad, premeditated or not .

Don't ya'll think these are the two only viable options given all we do know?

 

[SCHMAE]

Don't know if this has been addressed yet, way behind but...

From Momrids6 post #872:

"R: Do you have anything directly to say to Dylan?

M: Dylan, my prayers are with you and I love you very much. He was the light of my life and he meant everything to me. And I just want him home just like everybody else does. And that's why we've got to keep searching for him. Because somebody knows something. We've got to find him and we need to know he's okay."

BBM - He went from present to past tense in one quick second. And then caught himself and went back to present.

I have been trying to keep up (y'all are too fast), have never been on the fence, but this just speaks VOLUMES to me. He KNOWS Dylan is gone. I just wish he would man up and let the family know where he is. JMO

Doesn't a parent in this situation hold out every last hope, even when the odds are against it? Don't they think until there is irrefutable evidence in their face ( a body ) that their child is alive?
Why not say 'we're looking for you ' ' we will find you ' ' don't give up , we are coming' ?

So conflicted on this

 

[shefner]

I have watched the interview twice of Mark Redwine with the reporter.

I do not see a man who would ever harm his son. I see a worried concerned father.

I am so glad that he spoke with this reporter.

One thing I did note was how concerned he was about making sure Dylan had a direct flight with no layovers.

Also I realize now I had formed the wrong impression. I thought it had been implied that he had not seen his son for a very long time until this time. That is not the case. Mark said he just flew him out to be with him in September of this year. And flying children back and forth often can be costly but Mr. Redwine seems to think its worth every dime.

I found him to be very genuine and fully aware of what must be done in the investigation to find his son and has no animosity toward LE in any way. I do agree with Mark on one point though. They should have searched his home a week ago and now they are a week behind.

IMO

I respect your opinion....sadly, we are in opposite corners in this case.

 

[Sigh Sister]

Something I've been wondering about and forgive me if this has already been discussed. Why weren't the sheets that were on the bed the Dylan slept in used for the dogs to get his scent? Is there some reason sheets can't be used?? Or did he sleep on a couch?

 

[mck16]

One would think especially if there was nothing with his scent on it to give to the SAR dogs! I mean come on if he slept there his scent would be on the sheets there would be a pillow! a blanket the sofa!

Makes no sense to me!

I think a lot of things make no sense and I think it is because we do not have all the facts. Hell we don't really have any facts. That is what makes no sense to me, what is LE holding back and why. Is it because they don't have a clue? Didn't mom have something 'brought' in with DR scent on it? So, have we heard any results from that? I am sure they went back to the house and began a search. Or maybe not, but they should have. jmo

 

[Sigh Sister]

Hahaha! I see it's being discussed a few posts before mine. Carry on.......

 

[shefner]

Are we sure numbers 4 and 5 are facts? Or just speculation?

We have been told that Dylan made no contact with anyone after 8PM Sunday night.
Dad said Dylan was "out like light" on Monday morning.

 

[mmmagique]

One would think especially if there was nothing with his scent on it to give to the SAR dogs! I mean come on if he slept there his scent would be on the sheets there would be a pillow! a blanket the sofa!

Makes no scents to me!

I think a lot of things make no scents and I think it is because we do not have all the facts. Hell we don't really have any facts. That is what makes no sense to me, what is LE holding back and why. Is it because they don't have a clue? Didn't mom have something 'brought' in with DR scent on it? So, have we heard any results from that? I am sure they went back to the house and began a search. Or maybe not, but they should have. jmo

Ha! I fixed it for ya! :floorlaugh:

 

[mijamawi]

Hi momrids6, these are all facts from MSM. Let me see if I can find a couple links for you.
The bicycle the poster is referring to is a boy's bike parked outside the dad's home. Obviously Dylan didn't ride off on it since its parked right there in plain view.
Dad said that when he went to wake Dylan, Dylan was "out like a light" and couldn't be awakened. He also said that Dylan "acknowledged" that dad was leaving. Not sure about that conflict but both of those were reported by MSM over a few days.Sgt. Bender said that Dylan's phone went off around 8pm and never was used again. Also, they could use the pings from his cell because the phone remained off. He said this in a newspaper article and on Nancy Grace.

I will try to find the links now....

BBM Out like a light is a figure of speech. Just about an hour ago, I went in to wake my 12 year old because he has a baseball tournament. He mumbled and grumbled and acknowledged he needed to get up. About 5 minutes later, I went back in there, and he was crashed....out like a light.

 

[vasportsmom]

Something I've been wondering about and forgive me if this has already been discussed. Why weren't the sheets that were on the bed the Dylan slept in used for the dogs to get his scent? Is there some reason sheets can't be used?? Or did he sleep on a couch?

I think the possibilities are:
1) he was never there
2) he fell asleep on a couch
3) he slept in MR's bed & sheets weren't fresh
4) he slept in another bed & those sheets weren't fresh

We are all gonna pick the possibility that best suits our theory. I'm solidly Team 1.


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[oceanblueeyes]

I respect your opinion....sadly, we are in opposite corners in this case.

Thanks and I respect yours and everyone else's opinion as well.

But Im going to support this father fully just like I did in other cases where it turned out the parent werent the suspect after all when the majority were ablsolutely convinced they were the guilty party.

I get the same gut feeling I had when I saw Mark Lunsford speak and felt instantly he had nothing to do with his daughters disappearance...the same feeling I had in the Van Dam, Smart, Greone, Lamar, and Ridgeway..etc... and other cases through the years.

I will hold to this belief until LE comes out with some concrete evidence that Mr. Redwine is involved in the disappearance of his child that he genuinely seems to love very much, imo. I am not going to accuse him of anything at this time when I have nothing to base those accusations on. But thats just me and how I roll. Everyone is different.

Now of course this is just how "I" look at cases. What others wish to do is their entitled right to believe as the wish to believe and post their own opinion against or for a family member of any missing child as long as we do it according to WSs TOS rules...... just like I do mine.

imo

 

[nannymo]

Facts as we know them:
1. Dylan's phone was not used after 8PM Sunday.
2. No one has heard from him outside his Father since 8pm Sunday.
3. He did not ride off on his bicycle that is parked outside the house.
4. He did not call anyone from the landline at his Dad's to tell them he was not coming.
5. He did not ask anyone to take him anywhere Monday morning.

Feel free to add to this but I think Mark Redwine "went missing" Sunday night at 8PM. My opinion only.....

These are all things I have seen in various MSM article's and Video's. I will try and find them all. I was just stating that this is what we know from MSM and not necessarily facts from the DAD and his family. Let me see what I can find. You are welcome BTW.

 

[DylansMom34]

I have pages to catch up on, but read the transcript of Mark's interview. I need to watch the video still. But it seems that if he really wants the focus to be on Dylan, he seemed to spend much of the interview talking about himself and all the things he does.

I wish he'd flat out deny involvement, say something like I absolutely did not harm Dylan, I love him and have been scouring everywhere possible to find him! And then some comments of love and concern directly to Dylan. Dylan, I love you, I am looking for you, I will do everything I can to find you! Am I missing something, does he do anything like this... anywhere... anytime?

 

[cindysue]

I wonder if Dylan was ever at the home!

Could be why he's happy to let them search around. And in the interview he said he expected it even. Hmmm . Anyway my question is, if he didnt make it there would that also be suspicous to LE. Not finding any trace of him ?

 

[Portabella]

Since Dylan had lived in that area for a long time, I think it's safe to say that he was experienced with things like hiking, wandering too far from home, overall safety regarding the wildlife and / or dangerous areas ( cliffs? ) in the area. I mean to say I think he did not meet with an accident while out in the wild. He knew the terrain well enough to know he could not WALK the several hours to his friends houses so I think the idea of a tragic accident due to conditions in the mountains is a non issue.
I think at this point only 1 of 2 things could have happened.

He left to hitchhike to friends and met with an abductor .
OR
Something happened with dad, premeditated or not .

Don't ya'll think these are the two only viable options given all we do know?

Being experienced as well as being Old and experienced does not make it safe at all time when out in the high country. You obviously never plan on something going wrong, but it does at times. Animal attacks are not that common on humans, but they do happen. If he was walking the road, I lean more towards an abduction. But.... I for one feel there is always the risk of a hit and run, an animal attack, or he wandered just off the roadway to admire or look at something pretty and fell. No one no matter how much they know about the outdoors can be prepared for everything is all I am saying.
I do feel for whatever reason (walking to friends, a ride offered from a friends relative, checking the mailbox, fishing in the creek across from Dads, getting some fresh air, looking for a better signal), something happened after Dylan stepped out of his dads house that day...IMHO

 

[vasportsmom]

Thanks and I respect yours and everyone else's opinion as well.

But Im going to support this father fully just like I did in other cases where it turned out the parent werent the suspect after all when the majority were ablsolutely convinced they were the guilty party.

I get the same gut feeling I had when I saw Mark Lunsford speak and felt instantly he had nothing to do with his daughters disappearance...the same feeling I had in the Van Dam, Smart, Greone, Lamar, and Ridgeway..etc... and other cases through the years.

I will hold to this belief until LE comes out with some concrete evidence that Mr. Redwine is involved in the disappearance of his child that he genuinely seems to love very much, imo. I am not going to accuse him of anything at this time when I have nothing to base those accusations on. But thats just me and how I roll. Everyone is different.

Now of course this is just how "I" look at cases. What others wish to do is their entitled right to believe as the wish to believe and post their own opinion against or for a family member of any missing child as long as we do it according to WSs TOS rules...... just like I do mine.

imo

We all know that I switched teams but I still really hope you are right. I wish I had been able to hold on to my initial belief that Mark was innocent. I hate suspecting a parent and I rarely do.


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[princessk]

Since Dylan had lived in that area for a long time, I think it's safe to say that he was experienced with things like hiking, wandering too far from home, overall safety regarding the wildlife and / or dangerous areas ( cliffs? ) in the area. I mean to say I think he did not meet with an accident while out in the wild. He knew the terrain well enough to know he could not WALK the several hours to his friends houses so I think the idea of a tragic accident due to conditions in the mountains is a non issue.
I think at this point only 1 of 2 things could have happened.

He left to hitchhike to friends and met with an abductor .
OR
Something happened with dad, premeditated or not .

Don't ya'll think these are the two only viable options given all we do know?

I don't really agree with this. I think your number 2 scenario is pretty much the only option. LE is very adamant that Dylan did not run away which kind of scratches out number 1. I'm sure there are a lot of facts we are not being told, but I really think LE is on the right track.

 

[Eileen730]

I've been wondering that since the beginning. If he did sleep at the home, you'd think some sheets or pillowcases would have enough scent on them for the scent tracking dogs. (Of course, I could be wrong-again!)

But it's possible one could be very open about letting investigators search certain things because they know there's nothing there to find.

Exactly!
Nothing!