CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #50

[Deleted member 39678]

That's not the point, imo.

The point is WHY would he stop and buy groceries for Thanksgiving, when he admitted they did not decide yet where they were going. They discussed a few possibilities. So why the rush all of a sudden?

And what about his promise he made to his son to be back by 11 to take him to Bayfield? Now it is 11:30, he is still 45 minutes away, and he is going to walmart to shop for Thanksgiving dinner BEFORE giving Dylan his ride?

Why not discuss Thanksgiving plans during their drive to Bayfield? They had plenty of time to get groceries. They had 3 days and nights with no plans yet whatsoever.

I think that I have clearly explained my point of view on this subject. You don't agree with me and I'm fine with that. I'm not ready to explore what Mark could or should have done, just what he did do and why.

Once again, I say that we will have to agree to disagree about this subject.

 

[Allusonz]

It was not a school night hes a teen 9 30 is not late and im sure if you look (if u have kids) You might be surprised how late they send text messages back and forth. Or how lat they play video games. MR says Dylan was up when he went to upstairs to bed soooooooooo Dylan would still be texting.

JMO

BBM

The only thing Dylan could be doing at that time is text?

I must disagree. I watched the voice with my son the other night, and 5 minutes into the show I asked if he was going to answer his text. He stated no he did not feel like it.

I then looked at him and he turned the sounds/alerts off.

 

[Allusonz]

Dylan had been to the Walmart with Mark on Sunday night. Monday morning he was waiting for his ride to Bayfield, to spend the day, and possibly the night, with his friends. So I doubt he had a need for anything from a large market at 11:30 on Monday. He was ready to go see his friends.

Maybe, just maybe, Mark had limited money, and needed to get his paycheck on the Monday.

That IMO would be a good reason to finish any shopping that he did not have the money to pay for the evening before.

 

[Allusonz]

"You know, you gotta’ make sure you pick up everything you need while you’re in town because it’s a long way to go to Durango or Bayfield to get something you overlooked."================


But Mark, weren't you already on your way to Bayfield? Your son was waiting for his ride to Bayfield so you were going there anyway? So why not just go pick him up and talk about Thanksgiving on your way to town?

Your son is back alone in the cabin, waiting for your promised return---and you are going Thanksgiving shopping instead?

For those that have not looked at what stores are available in Bayfield, one might wish to look it up.

The main stores are in Durango.

 

[Money Girl]

IIRC, in the past threads, it was stated that Dylan had stayed up until 4 a.m. on the day he traveled to his Dad's home. Then, in addition to his flight, he had texted his Mom that he felt dizzy. Due to these reasons, I thought he was probably very tired and sleepy by 9:30.

 

[Dee10]

RSBMFE

Usually, LE would release a description of the items missing. That would be difficult to do, if most of his items were still at the house.

As for searching, Dylan could be anywhere. I don't mean limited to just the Vallecito area. People jumped to a conclusion, which has directly affected Dylan being found.

I made a post sometime back, that if they continued down the route they were travelling and were wrong, the only person this would affect would be Dylan, and I was right.

I have not even seen a concerted effort to get flyers out to neighbouring states.

How can you can you say you are right until Dylan is found??? I have faith the searchers & LE are doing everything they can to find Dylan. We are not privy to know everything they know and are doing behind the scenes.

 

[Dee10]

IIRC, in the past threads, it was stated that Dylan had stayed up until 4 a.m. on the day he traveled to his Dad's home. Then, in addition to his flight, he had texted his Mom that he felt dizzy. Due to these reasons, I thought he was probably very tired and sleepy by 9:30.

Yet, he was still up after 10:30 that night according to MR. We also don't know if he napped waiting in the airport or on the plane.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

IIRC, in the past threads, it was stated that Dylan had stayed up until 4 a.m. on the day he traveled to his Dad's home. Then, in addition to his flight, he had texted his Mom that he felt dizzy. Due to these reasons, I thought he was probably very tired and sleepy by 9:30.

I recall that also and it makes sense to me that he may have been a bit drowsy Sunday night. And depending on how well he slept, he may have slept in on Monday morning. MOO.

 

[cluciano63]

The FB page is asking for Dylan's poster to be shared everywhere...not just in CO.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

There was a question on another thread that I thought I'd bring over here, asking about how or whether or not an HRD dog could 'hit' or alert on a living human being.
I want to remind everyone, that's one of the reasons for the clarification of 'human remains detection' and not 'cadaver' dogs.

Human remains are not necessarily entire bodies. Parts of humans can decompose while the human themself remains alive.
Example- an accident causes a limb to be severed. The individual survives the accident, but the limb is lost. An HRD dog might be called in to try and locate the limb. An HRD dog should alert to the limb, but should not alert to the living individual involved in the accident.

There are many ways that human decomp can be present, and not involve a death. So an HRD alert does not necessarily rule in or out whether a death has occured. Hope this helps with some questions.

BBM

I found this old post by our HRD dog expert Oriah while looking at the Lisa Irwin forum.

The part I bolded has Oriah describing how an HRD dog may be called upon to find a severed limb. Is it possible that during a boating accident on Vallecito lake someones limb was severed and lost in the lake.

Could the cold waters of that lake preserve a severed limb for a long period of time and be the source of the HRD dog alerts in this case?

 

[katydid23]

For those that have not looked at what stores are available in Bayfield, one might wish to look it up.

The main stores are in Durango.

But that is missing the major point. DYLAN WAS WAITING FOR A RIDE.

Mark promised to be home by 11 to take him to Bayfield. So why would he call him FROM DURANGO, 45 minutes away, and ask him what he wanted for Thanksgiving dinner? That is ridiculous and makes me even more certain that he is a baldfaced lair. JMO

 

[katydid23]

Maybe, just maybe, Mark had limited money, and needed to get his paycheck on the Monday.

That IMO would be a good reason to finish any shopping that he did not have the money to pay for the evening before.

Mark said in another interview that they had not yet decided if they were going to his brothers several hours away, which is what Dylan wanted to do, or go to someone else's home or have it by themselves. That is what he said in one interview.

So it makes no sense to me that on MONDAY MORNING he suddenly needs to do the shopping for Thanksgiving, while Dylan was waiting for his ride. He promised Dylan he would be back by 11 to give him a ride. So why call him at 11:45, when that is still 45 minutes away, and ask what he wants for Thanksgiving dinner? Does that make sense? Because I can not make any sense of that at all.

And he makes no mention of that promise of a ride when he talks about trying to contact D that morning. Why not?

 

[katydid23]

I think that I have clearly explained my point of view on this subject. You don't agree with me and I'm fine with that. I'm not ready to explore what Mark could or should have done, just what he did do and why.

Once again, I say that we will have to agree to disagree about this subject.

But we do not know what he did do or why. That is the issue I have with him. JMO

 

[rebeccaeee]

RSBMFE

Usually, LE would release a description of the items missing. That would be difficult to do, if most of his items were still at the house.

As for searching, Dylan could be anywhere. I don't mean limited to just the Vallecito area. People jumped to a conclusion, which has directly affected Dylan being found.

I made a post sometime back, that if they continued down the route they were travelling and were wrong, the only person this would affect would be Dylan, and I was right.

I have not even seen a concerted effort to get flyers out to neighbouring states.

Then you haven't been paying attention. FMDR has a map with supporters all over the world. I am in the southwest and, trust me, Dylan's face is all over Las Vegas.

 

[Lordeebee]

RSBMFE

Usually, LE would release a description of the items missing. That would be difficult to do, if most of his items were still at the house.

As for searching, Dylan could be anywhere. I don't mean limited to just the Vallecito area. People jumped to a conclusion, which has directly affected Dylan being found.

I made a post sometime back, that if they continued down the route they were travelling and were wrong, the only person this would affect would be Dylan, and I was right.

I have not even seen a concerted effort to get flyers out to neighbouring states.

where are you getting that most of his items were at the house?

 

[Deleted member 39678]

But we do not know what he did do or why. That is the issue I have with him. JMO

Until LE releases how they verified Marks movements on Monday morning we will never know. I'm just going by what Mark said what his reasons were.You can have all the issues you want with Mark it doesn't matter to me.

That's why I said lets agree to disagree. What's so hard about doing that?

 

[katydid23]

Until LE releases how they verified Marks movements on Monday morning we will never know. I'm just going by what Mark said was his reasons where.You can have all the issues you want with Mark it doesn't matter to me.

That's why I said lets agree to disagree. What's so hard about doing that?

Agreed. :wave:

 

[Deleted member 39678]

Agreed. :wave:

Yay! We finally agree to disagree. Thanks Katy.

 

[Eileen730]

BBM

The phone/battery dying could be one reason.

Another could be that Dylan did not feel like texting them back. I understand that this would be a difficult concept to understand, but I watch my own kids do this all the time.

Occam razor and such.

he didn't feel like texting his friends? Yes very difficult to understand! IMO
He was happy as a clam sitting with his father paceing back and forth watching adventureland or was it role model ........when the entire time he wanted to be with his friends....

Naww Im not seeing it sorry!

 

[Eileen730]

But we do not know what he did do or why. That is the issue I have with him. JMO

Exactly we do not know what he did or didn't do we just have what HE SAYS he did.

I think the only time he has an alibi for is his apointments that morning what would that be a total of what 1 hr the rest travel time alone.