CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #51

[ColdHands]

I'm certain that if MR killed his son, there's plenty of things that could have triggered it. The problem I have is an apparent complete lack of evidence for what happened. No one has come forward to say they witnessed questionable behavior at the airport, the Walmart or McDonalds. No one has said they witnessed erratic driving by MR that night that might suggest alcohol use. No one has said they heard noises of argument coming from the house that evening. No one has come forward to say Dylan said something was happening via text. We know the police did an initial glance through the house and nothing was reported publicly that suggested signs of a struggle. We know the house and vehicles were thoroughly searched and nothing has been reported publicly from that search to suggest that a crime took place there. No one has reported hearing a vehicle driving on the road after 9:30 Sunday night.

It's the lack of evidence that has me baffled. How does an inebriated, rageful, revengeful person commit a murder and cover it up so well?

 

[Bayou Mistress]

But that never explains away with him just not communicating with the world AFTER 9-30PM Sunday night. I believe there is a reason for that unexplained silence MOO

Not one theory I've seen covers the basis for every fact we have. Not one. Many possible reasons for the cessation of phone activity have been put forth. Just as possible reasons for the lack of a clear crime scene have been put forth. I guess we will just keep going around and around.

 

[Crosby87]

Imo Mark was extremely jealous of Elaine's relationship with Dylan.

Mark told MB Dylan would go to him before his mom and Elaine wasn't close to Dylan because of her career and that had been a problem for her for years. However, ER told MB she knew Dylan better than anyone and she was the one who he went to for comfort and reassurance that everything would be okay. Now that Dylan is gone, Elaine is very upset and angry at the person that stole that from her.

Who besides Mark would want to steal Dylan away from his mother because they were jealous of the love they shared? Elaine used to love Mark and then her love for him died.

MOO

 

[Deleted member 39678]

But that never explains away with him just not communicating with the world AFTER 9-30PM Sunday night. I believe there is a reason for that unexplained silence MOO

Are you trying to say because there was no electronic communication by Dylan after 9:37pm Sunday that the only possibility is something happened to him Sunday night? I'm not seeing it that way myself.

In my opinion there are several reasons why there was no further communication that night and on into early Monday morning.

 

[azgrandma]

We have not heard from LE as to whether or not anyone has come forward to:

Say they witnessed questionable behavior at the airport, the Walmart or McDonalds.
They witnessed erratic driving by MR on Sunday evening.
That they heard noises of argument coming from the house Sunday evening. To say Dylan said something was happening via text or phone or ipod.
That someone may have heard or seen a vehicle driving in the vicinity of MR's home on Sunday evening.

IMO, the reason that we are not hearing what LE has or does not have, what witnesses may have come forward (if any) and what they may have said to LE is because this is an OPEN and ONGOING investigation. Just because we haven't heard of it, doesn't mean it hasn't been reported. IIRC at one point Bender mentioned a very thick notebook of tips that they were sifting through.

MOO

 

[Deleted member 39678]

Imo Mark was extremely jealous of Elaine's relationship with Dylan.

Mark told MB Dylan would go to him before his mom and Elaine wasn't close to Dylan because of her career and that had been a problem for her for years. However, ER told MB she knew Dylan better than anyone and she was the one who he went to for comfort and reassurance that everything would be okay. Now that Dylan is gone, Elaine is very upset and angry at the person that stole that from her.

Who besides Mark would want to steal Dylan away from his mother because they were jealous of the love they shared? Elaine used to love Mark and then her love for him died.

MOO

You give a good example of "he said, she said" involving a divorced couple. I don't see it as proof that Mark was jealous of Elaine because of her relationship with Dylan. All I see is each parent saying that Dylan would come to them first for help. I wouldn't be surprised if the truth lay somewhere in the middle. MOO.

 

[MissJ]

when people question the victims behaviour they minimise the responsibility of the abuser/attacker/murderers who committed the crime.

victims are revictimised when people suggest that their actions led to the crime being committed against them.

Jumping off your post


Unfortunately just last weekend I came face to face with someone who wanted to beat me but was prevented from doing so by others being present. If they had not been there I suspect I would be dead. Totally out of the blue.....the provocation...I didn't do what HE WANTED ME TO DO. No history of violence ever in the past and he was not drinking. JMO but this kind of person who is full of rage is capable of killing anyone for any reason they may conjure up in their hate filled brain. JMO FWIW I consider myself lucky to be alive.

 

[Crosby87]

IMO, Dylan left his father's house under his own power. He either met someone by design, stumbled into the wrong person, or was involved in an accident.

ER, who said she knows Dylan better than anyone, is certain Dylan would call someone and arrange for a ride before he would leave the house and I believe her since we know Dylan made plans to go to Bayfield first thing Monday morning and it was too far to walk.

She also told MB that when she contacted MR wanting answers, he accused her of harrassing him.

Elaine Redwine:
Well, I know he didn’t disappear. I mean, you know he just didn’t disappear out of thin air. I know he didn’t run away. I know that he didn’t hitchhike because that’s not Dylan’s character. He would have called. He would have either called me or called his brother or called, you know, his friends. Umm...it’s hard…you know... I have my own theories in my head, but I know what he didn’t do and I know how he didn’t vanish.

Elaine Redwine:
Well, he would have texted. He would have called. He would have used his phone after 8:00 or 8:30 at night, I mean… he wouldn’t have just started walking… it’s… I don’t know if you’ve seen it but that area is very isolated, and Dylan was not that energetic to just start walking down that road and hope he catches a ride. He would have texted. He would have texted me and said, “Have … because I have many friends down there, and he knows that they would have come and got him or whatever the case may be. I mean… I don’t believe … and we checked that whole entire road for footprints of Dylan’s, you know… just to see if there were any… ‘cos he had very distinctive shoe markings on the soles and there was no footprints of his and it just is very curious to me, because you know, I know Dylan. I know Dylan better than anyone other than maybe his brother, and I know he would have texted or called, you know, and let either myself or his friends know, you know what his plans were. He wouldn’t just go walking down that road.

MOO

 

[AnotherSetOfEyes]

I'm certain that if MR killed his son, there's plenty of things that could have triggered it. The problem I have is an apparent complete lack of evidence for what happened. No one has come forward to say they witnessed questionable behavior at the airport, the Walmart or McDonalds. No one has said they witnessed erratic driving by MR that night that might suggest alcohol use. No one has said they heard noises of argument coming from the house that evening. No one has come forward to say Dylan said something was happening via text. We know the police did an initial glance through the house and nothing was reported publicly that suggested signs of a struggle. We know the house and vehicles were thoroughly searched and nothing has been reported publicly from that search to suggest that a crime took place there. No one has reported hearing a vehicle driving on the road after 9:30 Sunday night.

It's the lack of evidence that has me baffled. How does an inebriated, rageful, revengeful person commit a murder and cover it up so well?

BBM: I totally agree. That is why I tend to think an act of rage was not involved. Forgive me for taking the liberty to re-write your words from the bolded statement above. How does a vengeful person who has carefully planned well in advance commit a murder and cover it up so well? I think that question, makes all the rest far less baffling. (Very much JMO.)

 

[Bayou Mistress]

Imo Mark was extremely jealous of Elaine's relationship with Dylan.

Mark told MB Dylan would go to him before his mom and Elaine wasn't close to Dylan because of her career and that had been a problem for her for years. However, ER told MB she knew Dylan better than anyone and she was the one who he went to for comfort and reassurance that everything would be okay. Now that Dylan is gone, Elaine is very upset and angry at the person that stole that from her.

Who besides Mark would want to steal Dylan away from his mother because they were jealous of the love they shared? Elaine used to love Mark and then her love for him died.

MOO

That is a classic He said; She said. Both parents profess a closeness to Dylan. I'm inclined to believe both. Healthy parents want their children to love not only them, but the other parent regardless of their marital status with each other. I also see no evidence of jealousy on MR's part regarding Dylan's mother.

 

[asyousay]

Are you trying to say because there was no electronic communication by Dylan after 9:37pm Sunday that the only possibility is something happened to him Sunday night? I'm not seeing it that way myself.

In my opinion there are several reasons why there was no further communication that night and on into early Monday morning.

Yes, i do not believe for a second that Dylan's phone just happened to stop working on the night he went to visit his dad. I also don't believe that his phone magically stopped working , he then refused to wake up the following morning and then met a terrible fate. One of those may happen but not all 3 in a row. MOO

 

[Deleted member 39678]

Yes, i do not believe for a second that Dylan's phone just happened to stop working on the night he went to visit his dad. I also don't believe that his phone magically stopped working , he then refused to wake up the following morning and then met a terrible fate. One of those may happen but not all 3 in a row. MOO

Dylan's phone not working on Sunday night is only one possibility. He may have decided to not text anyone after 9:37 pm. I think that it's definitely possible that Dylan didn't feel like getting up early on Monday morning.

Looks like we will have to agree to disagree on this.

 

[asyousay]

Dylan's phone not working on Sunday night is only one possibility. He may have decided to not text anyone after 9:37 pm. I think that it's definitely possible that Dylan didn't feel like getting up early on Monday morning.

Looks like we will have to agree to disagree on this.

Yep


and it does not matter who is right at the end of the day , all we want is for Dylan to be found and the truth to come out

 

[cluciano63]

We do not know that there is no evidence in the home or a vehicle...there may be some, but not enough, as in the case of Ayla Reynolds. The police there have been pretty open. There may be at least some evidence in many of these cases, i.e Lisa, Hailey, Haleigh, etc. but not enough to bring charges. So I do not think we can be sure LE found nothing at all to indicate the possibility of a crime.

 

[mijamawi]

We do not know that there is no evidence in the home or a vehicle...there may be some, but not enough, as in the case of Ayla Reynolds. The police there have been pretty open. There may be at least some evidence in many of these cases, i.e Lisa, Hailey, Haleigh, etc. but not enough to bring charges. So I do not think we can be sure LE found nothing at all to indicate the possibility of a crime.

You are absolutely right. We have no idea of much, really. All the more reason why I'm still :fence:

 

[Deleted member 39678]

You are absolutely right. We have no idea of much, really. All the more reason why I'm still :fence:

I'm with you. Kind of hard for me to come to any kind of conclusion with what we know in this case.

 

[Bayou Mistress]

I'm with you. Kind of hard for me to come to any kind of conclusion with what we know in this case.

I have concluded that I would like more information please.

 

[katydid23]

That is a classic He said; She said. Both parents profess a closeness to Dylan. I'm inclined to believe both. Healthy parents want their children to love not only them, but the other parent regardless of their marital status with each other. I also see no evidence of jealousy on MR's part regarding Dylan's mother.

I see a lot of bitterness and jealousy towards his ex. Overwhelmingly so. JMO

 

[Bayou Mistress]

I see a lot of bitterness and jealousy towards his ex. Overwhelmingly so. JMO

I know some people do. I see bitterness and jealously too unfortunately. We will have to agree to disagree on the source while we agree that it does exist.

 

[asyousay]

Hopefully some new news tonight when Elaine speaks on that radio thing on here. She must be beyond pulling out her hair now. As more time passes and people just move on and slowly forget about Dylan