CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #6

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  • #721
This has probably been thrown out there, but I am wondering if Dylan woke up, realized dad was gone got upset because he wanted to see his friends and decided to hitchike down to Bayfield and was picked up by someone with not so good intentions ....:(
 
  • #722
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Is it strange she says '' children sometimes hear things that they were not meant to hear and interpret them as something entirely different than what it was meant to be'''

Quite a strange comment indeed. I wonder what she's referring to. Doesn't seem like a comment that would be made randomly without a particular reference.
 
  • #723
I thought the sentence meant;

he knew if he was having a hard time at the lake he could call or text mom, like he did once before, WHEN HE WAS HAVING A HARD TIME AT THE LAKE, ....



THE REASON I say that is because Cory once said ' he knew he could call us if he was having any trouble..' and it made me think that Dylan had done it before when visiting dad.

I hadn't thought about in those terms, but I think it's an interesting interpretation.

When you put DH's statement together with CR's statement, it could be interpreted to mean that on a previous visitation, Dylan may have called his mom to tell her he was either "having trouble" or "having a hard time".
 
  • #724
I thought the sentence meant;

he knew if he was having a hard time at the lake he could call or text mom, like he did once before, WHEN HE WAS HAVING A HARD TIME AT THE LAKE, ....



THE REASON I say that is because Cory once said ' he knew he could call us if he was having any trouble..' and it made me think that Dylan had done it before when visiting dad.

Hmmmmmmmm. Interesting. Could be, right?
 
  • #725
I think the lake is the red herring. No evidence he was ever at the lake. Fishing pole they found was not his.

But what if he sent them there, hoping they would think the boy had fallen into the lake or been abducted there. Maybe he wanted them there for a reason, which is why he told them urgently about the missing fishing pole.
 
  • #726
I had read something which sounded totally ridiculous at the time, but the harder it is to think of ways for him to still be alive, the more possible it seems. Is there any way that one of his friends could be hiding him out in his home without the parents knowing? I could definitely see 13 year olds trying, but I don't know if they'd ever be able to pull it off this long. If he was at the friend's house, there'd be no need to use his phone to contact him, his friends could bring him food, etc., and if he stayed quiet while the friend was gone and someone else was home, I'm almost starting to think it might be possible, and it would explain why his friends were so quick to suggest that he might have hitchhiked (maybe he did) and a stranger took him away (but maybe he was just dropped off in Bayfield). Either that or I need more sleep and another round of antibiotics. :waitasec:
 
  • #727
I hadn't thought about in those terms, but I think it's an interesting interpretation.

When you put DH's statement together with CR's statement, it could be interpreted to mean that on a previous visitation, Dylan may have called his mom to tell her he was "having a bad time".

A reporter should have clarified what she meant by that statement.
 
  • #728
I thought the sentence meant;

he knew if he was having a hard time at the lake he could call or text mom, like he did once before, WHEN HE WAS HAVING A HARD TIME AT THE LAKE, ....



THE REASON I say that is because Cory once said ' he knew he could call us if he was having any trouble..' and it made me think that Dylan had done it before when visiting dad.
That's the way I interpreted it. Wondering if there have been problems on past visits.
 
  • #729
I had read something which sounded totally ridiculous at the time, but the harder it is to think of ways for him to still be alive, the more possible it seems. Is there any way that one of his friends could be hiding him out in his home without the parents knowing? I could definitely see 13 year olds trying, but I don't know if they'd ever be able to pull it off this long. If he was at the friend's house, there'd be no need to use his phone to contact him, his friends could bring him food, etc., and if he stayed quiet while the friend was gone and someone else was home, I'm almost starting to think it might be possible, and it would explain why his friends were so quick to suggest that he might have hitchhiked (maybe he did) and a stranger took him away (but maybe he was just dropped off in Bayfield). Either that or I need more sleep and another round of antibiotics. :waitasec:

I don't see it happening and I don't see any reason for it. Mother had primary custody and nothing I heard suggests he didn't want to live with his mother.
Furthermore, I am sure all his friends have been interviewed by police.
No way they could keep anything like that a secret.
 
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  • #731
I'd like to hear more from Dylan's friends that he was supposed to meet. Dad lives where Dylan has lived most of his life, right? Or close-by? It seems to me that most of Dylan's friends who were interviewed said that they believe Dylan hitched and met with foul play, right? None of them mentioned Dylan fighting with his dad, or not wanting to visit his dad, or being afraid of Dylan's dad, or Dylan just wanting to stay with his mother. I would imagine that at least one of these friends that Dylan kept in contact with would mention something going on with Dylan or give us an insight into how DYLAN actually felt about the whole visitation/divorce situation rather than how it is viewed from mom's side or dad's side.

If anything ever happens to my kiddos or I, I'm pretty certain y'all would hang my DH out to dry. He is NOT a public speaker. He uses atrocious grammar. He uses past tense verbs for everything, even in conversations about live people sitting right in front of him. Not because he's unintelligent, but because he was raised without parents and the few people who were supportive in his life talk just like that. He owns his own business, and provides well for our family, but he also works in an industry that couldn't care less about grammar. I can barely stand to hear him talk to any of his work buddies! He's better around me because I correct every.single.thing he says. Not to undermine his status as a parent, but because I don't want our children to pick up the same habits, and he understands and agrees with this. He's not overly emotional, and in a crisis, tries to think more logically and quietly fixes things instead of panicking... which is usually my job, even though I am a nurse. I can think logically and be calm all day long over a stranger's situation, but when it comes to MY kids, I can escalate quickly. I worked 3p-11p for years before I quit to be a SAHM. My husband is an early to bed, early to rise kinda person, and he sleeps like a brick in cement for the first few hours he lays down. My mother used to have a FIT because he didn't know when or if I came home from work at night. He would have noticed when he got up around 4-5am, but he didn't stay up until midnight every night to check. Had I ever not made it home, he probably wouldn't have reported me missing until morning, and knowing him, he would have driven up and down the highway three times before he actually called 911. I KNOW he would have called my mama, who lives a state away and couldn't help with anything, before he called 911. She would probably have to tell him to!

To most of us here, that isn't normal. But then, most of us here at WS are different people than a good bit of the population. We might all be different, but there is a common bond in the way we all think, communicate, and well, are interested in crimes, etc. that makes us unique. For instance, my husband would never, and will never, sign up and participate in an internet forum. Not gonna happen. He's got an email address. And an iPhone. That's all he can handle. lol I have a feeling that MR might very well be the opposite kind of person than "us." We just can't compare what we would do, say, or think to just any kind of person out there, because we are very different minded thinkers.

By the way, my husband would never, ever hurt us. I've been married to him for 14 years, together 18 years, and I think he's raised his voice to me.......maybe 3 times? And that's just because I was yelling to loud to hear what he said. lol But I do know that if, Heaven forbid, he was ever in the kind of situation MR is, or lots of other family members of missing people have been, his words, thoughts, and actions would seem odd. I know this is kinda OT, but I just wanted to share my thoughts. I am not defending or condemning anyone's actions or words.

Dylan, I'm praying you are safe out there, little buddy. Come home.
 
  • #732
This has probably been thrown out there, but I am wondering if Dylan woke up, realized dad was gone got upset because he wanted to see his friends and decided to hitchike down to Bayfield and was picked up by someone with not so good intentions ....:(

If one believes father's story, that seems like a most plausible theory to me.
 
  • #733
He wasn't putting the spotlight on himself rather than his son when they gave him carte blanche to say whatever he felt needed to be said? Here's that part of the transcript:

R: This is you guys' platform today. You can use this to get out any message you want.

M: Well, I don't want the focus to be mainly on me. I want the focus to be mainly on Dylan because that's where, that's the most important thing right now.

And you know, if the process of what's going on with the authorities and the people handling this is to search my home, all the had to do was ask. I would have willingly let them come in. I've given them, I've cooperated with them in every way. Anything they've asked me for, I've been willing to do. Anything they suggested I do, whether it be sitting at the house waiting for the phones to ring or Dylan to walk through the front door, I'm willing to do whatever I need to do.

And that's what I want everyone to understand is that, you know my focus is on Dylan and what's going on with him and trying to keep the investigation moving forward in whatever necessary means that is. So, you know in cooperating with them and we can you know, keep the focus on the search for Dylan. And that's where I'm at with all of this.

Dylan/Him=5
I/me= 13


Yup.
 
  • #734
This has probably been thrown out there, but I am wondering if Dylan woke up, realized dad was gone got upset because he wanted to see his friends and decided to hitchike down to Bayfield and was picked up by someone with not so good intentions ....:(

That has been the scenario we have been discussing quite a bit. It is the major theory, right alongside the other, closer to home scenario.

But there are 3 major questions that arise.

1. Dad said that he told Dylan that he was coming back soon to give him a ride to his friends. So Dylan didnt need to be too upset. And why not just wait for dad to return? Or at least call dad first and find out how long before he comes back?


2. Dylan never called or texted his friends that morning. When he woke up and realized he was late in meeting them, why didn't he call and check in? He had a landline there and the numbers were in his cell phone. And WHY would he go and try to hitchhike 17 miles without calling his friends and asking if he could get a ride? Or at least telling them he was still planning to come.

3. There is only one road that leaves his town and goes into B-town. It is a long straight road, and IF Dylan had been on that road walking or hitching, someone would have seen him.
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Those are some of the questions that come up with the hitchhiking scenario.
 
  • #735
One thing I just thought of re: the last uncut interview with MR...(I hope I can make sense with this):

I think MR specifically states (looking for quote / need to watch interview again) that he would have no problem, and/or understands the need for Dylan to see his friends. Is he saying this due to specific accusations that this is not the case and perhaps is motive or cause for an accident, or he is he just saying this out of the blue (ugh, trying to explain this)...

Meaning, if he is not saying this in response to anything, then maybe this is an odd comment to go out of one's way to make. Ugh I know this isn't a very clear post, sorry.

Almost like a justification...
 
  • #736
I don't see it happening and I don't see any reason for it. Mother had primary custody and nothing I heard suggests he didn't want to live with his mother.
Furthermore, I am sure all his friends have been interviewed by police.
No way they could keep anything like that a secret.

All of his friends have been interviewed, some of them more than once. We don't really know how he felt about living with his mother, other than what she and her family has said. At his age, the idea of hiding out, and of living with friends, might seem like a fun adventure - not realizing what it's putting everybody else through. In spite of that, I agree that it would be next to impossible for them to keep it a secret.
 
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  • #738
I'd like to hear more from Dylan's friends that he was supposed to meet. Dad lives where Dylan has lived most of his life, right? Or close-by? It seems to me that most of Dylan's friends who were interviewed said that they believe Dylan hitched and met with foul play, right? None of them mentioned Dylan fighting with his dad, or not wanting to visit his dad, or being afraid of Dylan's dad, or Dylan just wanting to stay with his mother. I would imagine that at least one of these friends that Dylan kept in contact with would mention something going on with Dylan or give us an insight into how DYLAN actually felt about the whole visitation/divorce situation rather than how it is viewed from mom's side or dad's side.

If anything ever happens to my kiddos or I, I'm pretty certain y'all would hang my DH out to dry. He is NOT a public speaker. He uses atrocious grammar. He uses past tense verbs for everything, even in conversations about live people sitting right in front of him. Not because he's unintelligent, but because he was raised without parents and the few people who were supportive in his life talk just like that. He owns his own business, and provides well for our family, but he also works in an industry that couldn't care less about grammar. I can barely stand to hear him talk to any of his work buddies! He's better around me because I correct every.single.thing he says. Not to undermine his status as a parent, but because I don't want our children to pick up the same habits, and he understands and agrees with this. He's not overly emotional, and in a crisis, tries to think more logically and quietly fixes things instead of panicking... which is usually my job, even though I am a nurse. I can think logically and be calm all day long over a stranger's situation, but when it comes to MY kids, I can escalate quickly. I worked 3p-11p for years before I quit to be a SAHM. My husband is an early to bed, early to rise kinda person, and he sleeps like a brick in cement for the first few hours he lays down. My mother used to have a FIT because he didn't know when or if I came home from work at night. He would have noticed when he got up around 4-5am, but he didn't stay up until midnight every night to check. Had I ever not made it home, he probably wouldn't have reported me missing until morning, and knowing him, he would have driven up and down the highway three times before he actually called 911. I KNOW he would have called my mama, who lives a state away and couldn't help with anything, before he called 911. She would probably have to tell him to!

To most of us here, that isn't normal. But then, most of us here at WS are different people than a good bit of the population. We might all be different, but there is a common bond in the way we all think, communicate, and well, are interested in crimes, etc. that makes us unique. For instance, my husband would never, and will never, sign up and participate in an internet forum. Not gonna happen. He's got an email address. And an iPhone. That's all he can handle. lol I have a feeling that MR might very well be the opposite kind of person than "us." We just can't compare what we would do, say, or think to just any kind of person out there, because we are very different minded thinkers.

By the way, my husband would never, ever hurt us. I've been married to him for 14 years, together 18 years, and I think he's raised his voice to me.......maybe 3 times? And that's just because I was yelling to loud to hear what he said. lol But I do know that if, Heaven forbid, he was ever in the kind of situation MR is, or lots of other family members of missing people have been, his words, thoughts, and actions would seem odd. I know this is kinda OT, but I just wanted to share my thoughts. I am not defending or condemning anyone's actions or words.

Dylan, I'm praying you are safe out there, little buddy. Come home.

Your husband sounds like a wonderful husband and father. And unlike someone else I can think of, your DH has never been accused of Domestic Violence or had an order of protection taken out against him. So I am not sure it is a fair comparison. JMO
 
  • #739
But what if he sent them there, hoping they would think the boy had fallen into the lake or been abducted there. Maybe he wanted them there for a reason, which is why he told them urgently about the missing fishing pole.

Sounds like a plausible theory to me.

Personally, I'm skeptical the "missing" fishing pole ever even existed. But if one were attempting to steer the investigation, one might invent a story about a missing fishing pole. MOO
 
  • #740
And unlike someone else I can think of, your DH has never been accused of Domestic Violence or had an order of protection taken out against him. So I am not sure it is a fair comparison. JMO

Not being snarky, is there a link for this? Please and thanks. :)
 
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