CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #6

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  • #981
Maybe because the clothing left was not worn..
My kids wont leave to go anywhere without a shower and fresh clothes.
If Dylan was in that house LE knows.

How would LE know?
 
  • #982
I'm still stuck on the whole hitchhiking thing. I can't even imagine who in their right mind would pick up a boy!




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Rural living is very different than other areas. People usually know everyone and they are way more trusting than in congested areas that is filled with violent crime.

I dont find this odd at all. I wouldnt have let any of our children do it when they were growing up but who knows maybe they did and their close friends knew and they never told us about it. They also grew up in a rural area where they knew just about everyone here.

IMO
 
  • #983
I wonder if we should be looking at the other end?
Were his friends trying to reach him that morning and all afternoon? Can that be established?
Perhaps he made it there and something bad happened?


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  • #984
How would LE know?

Maybe dna, fingerprints?

ETA: Just remembered they probably didn't take samples and look for fingerprints until the thorough search, so there may not have been dna or fingerprints by that time.....sigh.
 
  • #985
Maybe because the clothing left was not worn..
My kids wont leave to go anywhere without a shower and fresh clothes.
If Dylan was in that house LE knows.

Exactly.

And some boys his age will just grab what they had on from yesterday and wear it again. Some boys just arent into being clothes horses at that age.

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  • #986
Rural living is very different than other areas. People usually know everyone and they are way more trusting than in congested areas that is filled with violent crime.

I dont find this odd at all. I wouldnt have let any of our children do it when they were growing up but who knows maybe they did and their close friends knew and they never told us about it. They also grew up in a rural area where they knew just about everyone here.

IMO

But his friends seemed to think it was a dangerous thing to do


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  • #987
And he simply said those comments arent correct.

But this has always nagged at me for so long.

Seven New Mexico State Police scuba divers used three different boats with four different sonar systems to sweep the southern end of Vallecito Lake Monday. That's where cadaver dogs from the La Plata County Search and Rescue Team alerted on a scent both Saturday and Sunday.

Our neighbor who had terminal cancer jumped into a huge lake a couple of years ago. Witnesses on the other side saw her go in and not come up. They extensely searched the area and the dogs alerted to her scent but they never found her and after searching for 2 months they finally gave up. :(

imo

That's very sad about your neighbor. I believe whats in bold was in reference to cadver dogs looking for a cadaver scent at the lake. Not specifically Dylan's scent. I could be wrong though? I've often wondered though, just who's cadaver they were hitting on?
 
  • #988
Clean clothing without Dylan's scent don't exactly prove Dylan made it to the house, do they? The bowl of cereal and spoon, if analyzed, would probably have some DNA, but presumably could have been washed at some point of time before forensic search.

No, it doesn't. Like I said, I'm not sure what I think about MR and his involvement or not at this time. I just see a way where it's possible that what MR has said is the truth, and why there wouldn't be any clothing with scent on it present, since IF Dylan did make it to the house, it would only have been for one night.

But if there were clean clothes present at the house, I agree it does not necessarily mean that Dylan made it there safely. I haven't seen anything confirmed yet that definitely says Dylan was in the house that night... or definitively says he wasn't. IMO.
 
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That's very sad about your neighbor. I believe whats in bold was in reference to cadver dogs looking for a cadaver scent at the lake. Not specifically Dylan's scent. I could be wrong though? I've often wondered though, just who's cadaver they were hitting on?

Any cadaver. Cadaver dogs smell the scent of decomposition, not of specific person. Tracking dogs smell the scent of specific person.
 
  • #991
I think the 'hitch hiking' thing meant trying to catch a ride with someone he knew...even if a friend of a friend or relative of a friend. Someone he had seen around before and not necessarily a complete stranger. I do remember Dylan's friends saying early on he would not take a ride from a stranger. So I don't think it's 'hitch hiking' as we think of it. I can see in a rural area trying to catch a ride into town. I used to do it all the time. My girlfriend and I used to walk everywhere and if a neighbor or someone we recognized offered us a ride we grabbed it. Of course times were different then but we didn't think twice about it. But we knew better than to hop in the car with a complete stranger.
 
  • #992
Rural living is very different than other areas. People usually know everyone and they are way more trusting than in congested areas that is filled with violent crime.

I dont find this odd at all. I wouldnt have let any of our children do it when they were growing up but who knows maybe they did and their close friends knew and they never told us about it. They also grew up in a rural area where they knew just about everyone here.

IMO

I grew up in a small town. If I did something naughty three blocks away from home, my mother knew about it before I walked in the door.

Dad seemed unaware of his hitchhiking. Surely it would be unacceptable for a young boy to do, even rurally in this day and age. Right?


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  • #993
I wonder if we should be looking at the other end?
Were his friends trying to reach him that morning and all afternoon? Can that be established?
Perhaps he made it there and something bad happened?


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I don't have a link for you, IIRC, the friends claim they tried to contact Dylan all day Monday. LE could have checked their records. I haven't heard if they have. They have checked Dylan's, so their attempts to contact should be available.
 
  • #994
"His priority was pretty much with his friends, so I wasn't alarmed," Mark said.

In hindsight, Mark wonders whether Dylan became impatient and hitchhiked. "I can't quite wrap my mind around that yet," he said.

Mark said he tried texting Dylan all afternoon in an area with spotty cellphone service. When he didn't hear anything back by late afternoon, he went to Dylan's friend's house in Vallecito. That friend hadn't seen him.

Mark became alarmed and drove the 20 miles to Bayfield. Dylan's friends there hadn't seen him either. Mark called Elaine Redwine and went to the Bayfield Marshal's Office



Read more: With Dylan Redwine missing for almost two weeks, dad clings to hope - The Denver Post http://www.denverpost.com/recommended/ci_22108222#ixzz2DuVqA33s
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Im sorry!
Wouldnt you be concerned how your child got to friends 20 miles away and if you couldnt reach your son wouldnt you call his friends?
And If you didnt have their number look it up.
Why wait so long to go look for him?
 
  • #995
Any cadaver. Cadaver dogs smell the scent of decomposition, not of specific person. Tracking dogs smell the scent of specific person.

Thank you. That's what I was trying to say.
 
  • #996
I don't have a link for you, IIRC, the friends claim they tried to contact Dylan all day Monday. LE could have checked their records. I haven't heard if they have. They have checked Dylan's, so their attempts to contact should be available.

I am sure LE checked the phone records by now. They could also check where these friends were located when they were making these texts (by triangulation of phone pings).
 
  • #997
I think the 'hitch hiking' thing meant trying to catch a ride with someone he knew...even if a friend of a friend or relative of a friend. Someone he had seen around before and not necessarily a complete stranger. I do remember Dylan's friends saying early on he would not take a ride from a stranger. So I don't think it's 'hitch hiking' as we think of it. I can see in a rural area trying to catch a ride into town. I used to do it all the time. My girlfriend and I used to walk everywhere and if a neighbor or someone we recognized offered us a ride we grabbed it. Of course times were different then but we didn't think twice about it. But we knew better than to hop in the car with a complete stranger.

That makes sense!


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  • #998
Oh I think everything means something. Maybe not on an indiviual basis but they do collectively. I dont think LE can be fooled if they were staged which I have no reason to believe that they were.

I am sure items were taken in and he also said they went to Walmart and MickyDs when they got in...that too can easily be verified. We know that Sgt. Bender has already confirmed his alibi for the morning he said he was out running errands.

So I havent seen LE contradict what Mr. Redwine has said happened and the events he laid out. He sure knows they are listening to every interview he has. I dont think he is a stupid man.

imo


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The article with the interview stated that the blanket he said Dylan slept with still lay crumpled on the couch. Police have stated in other articles about the latest search that they made a very cursory search at the beginning of the investigation; just enough to look around and see that Dylan was not there. This would lead me to conclude that there was no forensic testing done or evidence collected during the initial search.

I am looking forward to reading what LE found in the forensic search. Too bad they had to wait more than a week to do it.

MOO
 
  • #999
I'm still stuck on the whole hitchhiking thing. I can't even imagine who in their right mind would pick up a boy!




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I'm shocked that Dylan had been known to hitchhike. Who does that anymore, especially a child??
 
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BBM (Bolded by Me)

The article with the interview stated that the blanket he said Dylan slept with still lay crumpled on the couch. Police have stated in other articles about the latest search that they made a very cursory search at the beginning of the investigation; just enough to look around and see that Dylan was not there. This would lead me to conclude that there was no forensic testing done or evidence collected during the initial search.

I am looking forward to reading what LE found in the forensic search. Too bad they had to wait more than a week to do it.

MOO

I agree. It sure doesn't appear first search involved any forensic testing.
 
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