CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #7

[PaulR]

I want to know where that "area with spotty cellphone service" is!

Vallecito is in the mountains. That is a recipe for spotty cell phone service no matter what the cell phone companies claim on their website.

 

[Confusion]

The one thing I keep coming back to, in this case, is that one of the very few things that LE has said in their press releases, is that they believe this is a CRIMINAL case.
That means they have some kind of evidence that has not been made public, that Dylan either, never got to his father's house, or that he left his father's house with someone that morning.

To me that just means they don't believe he ran away (because he hasn't contacted anyone), they don't believe he got lost or fell in the lake (because nothing has turned up in their searches), they don't believe he's just hiding out (same as running away), and just about any other scenario would be criminal. I do hope they have some evidence of something though.

 

[mck16]

The one thing I keep coming back to, in this case, is that one of the very few things that LE has said in their press releases, is that they believe this is a CRIMINAL case.
That means they have some kind of evidence that has not been made public, that Dylan either, never got to his father's house, or that he left his father's house with someone that morning.

Has LE ever indicated they do not think DR got to the house or that he left it that night? tia

 

[PaulR]

Did I miss Dad being named a POI? tia

Nope, he has not been named a POI.

 

[Seajay]

I'm gonna wait on LE to release more details before I hang the guy. I thought Pierre Barnes dad was lying and I was wrong. I thought Katrina Smith's husband was lying and I was right. I believed Autumn Pasquale's family and I was right. I think Bob Harrod's family is full of it but nothing has been proven one way or the other. Skye Metawala's mother is lying but nothing has been resolved yet on that one.

At first I felt like the father did something to Dylan. I have no idea why I've back off that. Maybe because he was giving interviews about Dylan in past tense. Then I discovered mother and brother were also referring to Dylan in past tense so that alone was enough to back off MR until there is more information.

No contact from 8 pm on is out of character for a teenage boy. But having had person experience at my mom's in the mountains without any phone reception or satellite reception, I have to consider that as a possibility as to why he wasn't heard from. JMO

 

[TxJan1971]

I would love to know if Dylan had shared any personal information with his friends from Bayfield about his relationship with his dad (i.e. not wanting to spend Thanksgiving visit with him) or whether or not they could provide any information about that relationship, and I would love to know if Dylan had shared any similar information with any of his "new" friends (where his mom lived) as to whether or not he wanted to spend Thanksgiving with his dad and/or what he told them he had planned to do while there. I'd love to know if Dylan previously hung out with kids older than his age - perhaps his friends' older brothers or older neighbors that he may have known or called for a ride? Would any of them be old enough to harbor him if indeed word got out that he didn't want to stay with his dad and maybe didn't want to go back to his new home and/or was tired of his mom/dad fighting and him being in the middle? (This happened to my step-son some years ago which is why I can't entirely rule out him wanting to disappear for awhile). Wish we had some more information...

 

[Seajay]

Least we forget ima's warning:

[ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8599114&postcount=3"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - CO CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #7[/ame]

Sleuthing the father is not allowed. The discussion rules have been relaxed but that does not mean you can outright accuse him.

No 'tunnel talk' discussion allowed.

All opinions are welcome, please don't talk about being on one team or another. We all want the same thing... Dylan to be found safe

and brought home!!!

 

[Seek&Find]

Was it ever confirmed what time Dylan's flight arrived? I saw a fam friend had said between 6-6:30. Did fam or LE confirm this in MSM?

Seems it'd be a commercial flight, and Dad said it was direct, but I don't see a flight arriving within that timeframe from COS-DRO. Was it delayed/did the layover take longer than expected (didn't find any direct NS), or was it a charter flight? Did anyone find a comm'l direct flight fitting this timeframe into DRO 11/18 or is that time wrong?

Now that dad has given us a timeline with locations for Sunday night, thought I'd look if it made sense. Per my map app, from the airport to the Walmart takes 18 minutes. From the link, This Walmart doesn't appear to have a McDs inside it like the one near me does (and it's listed that way on mine). From the Walmart to the McDs takes 6 minutes. From the McDs to the 2300 block of CR 500 takes 1 hour, 11 min. Factor in time to shop for groceries and time to eat, and if all times are accurate, seems a tight timeframe for Dylan to then end up asleep at 8.

Even if we shorten the drive to dad's house from McDs to the 45 min referenced in this article, it still seems fairly tight, IMO.

Dylan had asked his father whether he could go to his friends' that evening after they had shopped at Walmart and eaten at a McDonald's in Durango and before the 45-minute drive to Mark's home north of Vallecito Lake.

link

Per [ame="http://websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8597679&postcount=485"]this post[/ame] by a local:

The Walmart, which unless they needed something else besides groceries they would have not go in. Very busy place, long lines etc.

I wonder what all was purchased at Walmart. (LE most likely knows, IMO.) Was the fishing pole purchased that night, and that's why it stood out to dad it was missing? Was buying the pole the specific reason for going to the busy, long line Walmart? If it was bought that night, why wasn't fishing in the list of possible activities for the week dad shared in the video? If Dylan's flight was delayed and/or Dylan was already tired from the night before, as Dad said, why do the shopping that night? Why not add it to his own errands the following morning, get Dylan dinner, and home, if he's tired?

And, if Dad had to fight to get the week visit with Dylan, why weren't the two Mon am appts moved to before or after his visit? And errands done prior? He hadn't seen Dylan for almost three months. And, if Dylan just ended up going to sleep at 8, and dad was departing the house early, as others said why not just let him sleep over with his friends as planned?

Dad says in the video below at approx 5:20 in that Dylan knew once Mark got back he'd "be working on getting him down to his friends". Odd wording, IMO. Why not just he knew when I got back I'd drive him there??

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiFNFsfXelY&feature=youtube_gdata_player"]Uncut: Mark Redwine talks about son's dissapearance - YouTube[/ame]

Just some things that stand out to me...:waitasec:

 

[Seek&Find]

Dad said he did call. Time will tell on that one when the phone records are examined.

Really? Where? Do you have a link? In the article from this am, he said he texted. Not that he called. (link on first page of thread, and about 20 times since in thread, lol.)

Moo

 

[Confusion]

Seems it'd be a commercial flight, and Dad said it was direct, but I don't see a flight arriving within that timeframe from COS-DRO. Was it delayed/did the layover take longer than expected (didn't find any direct NS), or was it a charter flight? Did anyone find a comm'l direct flight fitting this timeframe into DRO 11/19 or is that time wrong?

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BBM

His flight was on 11/18, not 11/19.

 

[katydid23]

My Colorado teens have never got up at 6:30 am on a non-school day unless it was for skiing or fishing. We've never heard an explanation as to WHY 6:30 am was the desired time to get up, either from MR or LE.

I think that they decided on 6:30 because that is what time Dad would have needed to drop him off if he still wanted to go and do his early errands.

Someone posted a ski report and there were no lifts open yet because not enough snow. I have always wondered if they were going fishing, but there has been no mention of that yet, AFAIK.

 

[bessie]

Random Warning: Before you make accusations, be darn sure you can back them up!

 

[nursebeeme]

just my thoughts:

1) we don't know crap

2) dad last saw his son but guess what he is a family member and he needs a little respect until proven otherwise

3) the cell phone stuff can be debated until the cows come home but we just do not know who his provider was and what the circumstances were (and revert back to number 2)


4) revert again back to number two.

I personally will ALWAYS revert back to number two no matter what. Because parents matter and they know. There is mystery in what is going on but nothing that makes me go away from the number two which is family. What they say and what they say happened when and how they found things when they were out of order.

I am not making rules I am stating my opinion. I have not seen one thing that makes me yet doubt the accounts of this father and I am praying that they figure out what the heck happened during errand running time.

This is very troubling. We all have boys around this age. The cell coverage is spotty at best. If my kid tried to power up and couldn't get a signal he would promptly give up and turn on cartoons like Dylan likely did.

I hope they can figure out who else stopped by the house... that will be key. And that is my opinion.

that is all I got.. and that is my opinion

 

[Annie1004]

He would not have had to be abducted in the middle of the night, it could have been after Dad left that morning and it didn't have to be from inside the house.

For some reason, he had his backpack with him, so that leads me to think he started out somewhere, didn't get very far and something happened.

Re the backpack with Dylan: according to Dad, he was going to spend TWO days with his friends, so it makes sense he would take his belongings with him.

 

[cattlekate]

I was referencing child support..not travel expenses. In texas child support can be 1/3 of spouse's
take-home pay. In Co. doesn't non-custodial parent pay child support every month? Many spouses
resent losing their total income. That is one reason for joint custody--------no one pays the other
spouse. Lots of salaries are garnished here. Of couse I believe iin enforcing support.
Am I missing your point? Sorry.

No. A non-custodial parent with 92 overnights or less can receive child support from the parent with more than 92 overnights if that parent earns substantially more. It depends on the salaries. Even if the new 2012 decree got below the 93 overnights, that increase in cs would've been negated by travel costs of the moving parent. My GUESS is that the original 2007 decree defaulted to the unwritten rule of 50/50 parenting time and cs should've been a wash, considering Mom was working in financial aid at Fort Lewis College and Dad was a pipe fitter.

I pay $220 per month due to the extra 700 miles the ex has to drive.

 

[Seek&Find]

BBM

His flight was on 11/18, not 11/19.

Lol. I knew that. Sunday, 11/18. Just a typo, but thanks, all fixed.

 

[scorekeeper]

Vallecito is in the mountains. That is a recipe for spotty cell phone service no matter what the cell phone companies claim on their website.

I understand the cell phone coverage issue; it's been discussed at length here since thread 1. :banghead::banghead:

Dad says he was in an area with spotty cell phone coverage, I specifically would like to know that area - his house, the bathroom, garage, travel trailer, near lake, in woods, sitting on his couch....WHERE was he?

He's lived there for awhile, I'm sure he knows the areas where his phone might work in the texting mode...

I guess I wanted a little more specific information as to where dad was from 11:30 until he went to see the kid in the Vallecito area (the one friend of Dylan's in the immediate area).

 

[Seajay]

Really? Where? Do you have a link? In the article from this am, he said he texted. Not that he called. (link on first page of thread, and about 20 times since in thread, lol.)

Moo

Mistook texting for calling in spotty area. I'm telling you, once something is out and everyone dissects it to mush, I don't remember what the original actually said anymore. I said that about 20 pages ago. Got accused of being sarcastic when in fact, it's just my brain not remembering the original issue after hours and pages of it being shredded and made to be something else. Sorry.

 

[Seek&Find]

No sorry needed. . I keep having to review the media thread and google for articles to read/reread to try to keep it all straight!

 

[Annie1004]

I have absolutely no problem with MR hiring a lawyer,I would have did that myself ASAP as soon as i became the target of the media and remarks from DR mom.I have seen nothing released that says he was abusive to his son or neglectful towards him.It is very possible in my mind that he did leave that house alone or possibly someone knew he was there alone either way, i still have seen nothing that makes me feel dad did something to him! that's all IMO.

And how about the "weekend father" behavior, you know, spoiling DR, letting him do and eat whatever he wanted, etc. I presume Dad would bend over backwards to make himself the good guy in DR's eyes, what with the animosity, if any, between the parents. If Dad is being truthful, he adores his youngest child. JMO.