CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #8

[SailorMoon]

O/T
Any of you really good sleuthers want to come and help me search my car for the lens that popped out of my glasses (again!) last night? I found an old pair to use, but I'd still be considered legally blind while wearing them. :furious:

I see I'm not the only one with this problem!! If only I could afford new glasses. I hope your car isn't as filthy as mine, that made this a 2 hour process. Check beside your seat all the way down to the floor (like down from the console). I heard mine hit and that helped me.

 

[LaMer]

I haven't noticed this posted, but if Dylan had gone fishing and fell into the water and disappeared, wouldn't his backpack have been found nearby?

Sorry if this has been discussed. I am a fishergal, and never would fish with a backpack on, besides it would be difficult casting out with one on one's back.

 

[ICUDOUCME]

The problem with that is why would he go fishing lugging practically everything he brought to dads with him and communicate with no one? Not even the friends that were expecting him.


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Don't think it was everything, we know of backpack, cell phone, charger, and fishing pole as being items missing....They say there were clothes of his at fathers home...so not everything was with him.

 

[TexasCharm]

I don't see why people keep throwing around the scenario of Dylan taking off to see friends. Isn't this the same as running away? His dad knew nothing of him leaving, so this would be RUNNING AWAY. Correct me if I am wrong. That is the way I see it. LE has been adamant that Dylan did NOT RUN AWAY, which throws out every scenario of Dylan leaving on his own.

Ok .. you're wrong! hehe ..j/k.

I take the "not a runaway" statement to mean that they aren't looking for a kid who left with the intention to never return. Even if he voluntarily "left the house" they believe at this point that something else has happened to him .. ie. abduction, accident, etc.

That's how I understand it anyway.

imo

 

[ttcRider]

True. Especially if his was fully rigged when he left the house. Weight, lure etc. I always have mine fully rigged before I leave the house. Lord knows I spend enough time re-rigging while fishing.

I have to drag my whole tackle box along too.. the trees around here always take my lures. :furious:

 

[SailorMoon]

So if Dylan never made it home, what happened?? I mean did MR just set out to make him disappear?? And if so, why?? Was there an argument something happened? I can see the get out and walk thing and now look where we are.

 

[nursebeeme]

I don't see why people keep throwing around the scenario of Dylan taking off to see friends. Isn't this the same as running away? His dad knew nothing of him leaving, so this would be RUNNING AWAY. Correct me if I am wrong. That is the way I see it. LE has been adamant that Dylan did NOT RUN AWAY, which throws out every scenario of Dylan leaving on his own.

not if he was abducted on the way to see friends or had an accident on the way to see friends.

 

[Eileen730]

If hes in that lake he went in it sunday night phone backpack and all.

Thats just my take on things.

That phone went of radar and that to me is the red flag.

 

[princessk]

Ok .. you're wrong! hehe ..j/k.

I take the "not a runaway" statement to mean that they aren't looking for a kid who left with the intention to never return. Even if he voluntarily "left the house" they believe at this point that something else has happened to him .. ie. abduction, accident, etc.

That's how I understand it anyway.

imo

I guess it is how you view it...I see what you are saying, but I don't agree. Ha! It really is a vague statement obviously, but I feel it is saying......Dylan did not take off on his own. If he did take off on his own, how would we know he is not a runaway? Unless he left a note or contacted someone, which we know he did not. Therefore.....you couldn't possibly say he DID NOT RUN AWAY....because we wouldn't know if that was his intention or not.

 

[Confusion]

I see I'm not the only one with this problem!! If only I could afford new glasses. I hope your car isn't as filthy as mine, that made this a 2 hour process. Check beside your seat all the way down to the floor (like down from the console). I heard mine hit and that helped me.

Luckily the car isn't too bad in the front seat (I sometimes have riders in my backseat who have apparently never heard of a trash bag, but it's not real bad). My problem is just seeing it. I lost it in my apartment the other day and it took me over 5 hours to find it (it was on the floor, on edge against the side of a file box. Oh well, the weather is beautiful, and I do need to get out more.

 

[LaMer]

Don't think it was everything, we know of backpack, cell phone, charger, and fishing pole as being items missing....They say there were clothes of his at fathers home...so not everything was with him.

I have wondered if the clothes left behind, might have been some Dylan's father had bought for him at Walmart or had bought ahead as a present. What makes me think so, we heard some of his clothes were there, but his mom had to supply some for his scent. The new clothes would not work, not being worn.

 

[mck16]

I just want to say to Imamaze thank you for the timeline. It is incredible and a valuable tool to staying straight with this case. Anything you want to know is there. All you have to do is search the thread to find it.

It would be good for everyone just to go back and read it. keeps things clear in your mind at least it does for me. Thanks again.

 

[pinto]

If he slipped and fell in and had his phone with him he would have no time to call anyone. I just think he thought he would be back in plenty of time before his dad got back from running errands.

IMO

This is one thing I've thought ... packs up stuff to go to lake, maybe puts his phone in his pocket (possibly not realizing it isn't on, if Dad had turned it off night before), walks to lake, pulls phone out of pocket, drops it in water, tries to find it ... with backpack still on. Backpacks will change your balance point, obviously, so it isn't far-fetched to think that he loses his balance and falls while bending down (I've done it with a pack on).

Also, I'm sure the lake is low, as are all lakes around here. I have never been there, so I don't know how it would go, but assuming the lake is much lower than it used to be, it might drop off to the deep part quite soon after the shore. (I don't know what that is called, when the shore is gradual and then it sometimes just falls off.) He was familiar with the lake, but possibly not in this condition, and maybe was surprised by how quickly it got deep, and got in literally over his head before he realized it. Yes, it's been warm here, but the water is very cold and it wouldn't be long before he was incapacitated.

Again ... I am just speculating. It is unusual that his phone would be off, but I can think of a lot of reasons that it would be off that don't include some of the more nefarious scenarios.

 

[Eileen730]

Put a nylon over the vacuum wand and vacuum away...you will catch it on the nylon......

Where is your Schtickey! However ya speel it.
the sticky roller thingy!

 

[Eileen730]

I have wondered if the clothes left behind, might have been some Dylan's father had bought for him at Walmart or had bought ahead as a present. What makes me think so, we heard some of his clothes were there, but his mom had to supply some for his scent. The new clothes would not work, not being worn.

Or clothes left from the last time he was there.
I would think he had some clothing there.

 

[Bipolar Express]

Ok .. you're wrong! hehe ..j/k.

I take the "not a runaway" statement to mean that they aren't looking for a kid who left with the intention to never return. Even if he voluntarily "left the house" they believe at this point that something else has happened to him .. ie. abduction, accident, etc.

That's how I understand it anyway.

imo

I agree with you. Leaving the house to visit friends without telling a parent is NOT "running away" in LE language!

 

[LotusPawprint]

They have their theories but that doesnt necessarily mean those theories are correct.

Ok some of this has got to be misinformation about the scent from the home to lake. They had to be trailing an alive scent.


"Just given the length of time (he's been gone), we're looking at other possibilities," said Durango Police Lt. Ray Shupe. "Everything from abduction to homicide."

Yeah, I understand what you're saying. The more I hear from LE and the more I re-read their statements to the press, the less weight I give their comments. Whether they have a specific theory or person(s) in mind or are actually exploring several possibilities, I don't think anything LE says to MSM or the public is a priority or to be interpreted too seriously.

If they had something significant to say, they'd say it loud and clear in a presser. I take everything else to be noise-- the work they're doing behind the scenes is what matters. This isn't like Jessica case in Westminster where LE briefed the media and the public for the purpose of finding Jessica's killer and keeping the community safe.


Overall.... I've come to accept in Dylan's case, we're simply not going to hear much (or anything) from LE until it's something definitive and what we do hear shouldn't be taken too seriously. ----> Hence, theory land here on WS!

 

[ICUDOUCME]

I have wondered if the clothes left behind, might have been some Dylan's father had bought for him at Walmart or had bought ahead as a present. What makes me think so, we heard some of his clothes were there, but his mom had to supply some for his scent. The new clothes would not work, not being worn.

Ok but still that to me does not mean that Dylan had all his clothing...if there were new ones still there.Mind you that brings up the fact that when my children get new clothes those suckers are the first thing they would pack, and the last thing they would leave behind. I don't think they were new clothes.

 

[Linda7NJ]

I also find it odd we have no description of the backpack


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[OneLove]

So if Dylan never made it home, what happened?? I mean did MR just set out to make him disappear?? And if so, why?? Was there an argument something happened? I can see the get out and walk thing and now look where we are.

IF IT IS TRUE, and I don't know for sure that it is, but IF dogs tracked Dylan's scent to the lake, and cadaver dogs picked up scent over the water, then it seems we can figure that Dylan did make it to MR's house, just wasn't there for long.

If that is not true and you are asking for possible scenarios, I can say what I believe the most likely one is. But I'm not sure that is allowed here.

Is it?