CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #8

[Nolita]

Mr Redwine looks very exhausted and tired too.

Sorry I dont watch Nancy anymore.

I think she comes on here (EST) at 8.

IMO

Thankyou!

 

[Seek&Find]

It sounds like it is old stuff to me and its totally irrelevant to Dylan's disappearance imo. FGS they have been divorced five years. Its just a diversionary tactic to make MR look bad now five years later.

IMO

IMO, it makes no sense that mom would be trying to divert attention while searching for her missing son.

 

[Ransom]

I do find it interesting LE has not released any pictures of the phone,backpack,clothing Dylan was described as wearing etc. How are folks suppose to know what to look for. Mom would have provided that info easily. Why has LE not released this? Have they found it? I know they described the back and clothing. Yet we have no idea what type of phone Dylan had.

Only thing about the cellphone was posted on the FindDylan FB. Said phone didn't have GPS.... take that for what it's worth from FB.... rumor.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

BBM, agree 100%. The one thing that I do believe based upon my experience is that rarely is anyone "all good" or "all bad." JMOO, it is more likely that both people in a troubled relationship have contributed to the general crappiness of the situation. (Eg., I sure don't miss my ex and I have no problem admitting that he's a , but I also know that sometimes I was a real beotch to him, too.) That is not passing judgment on anyone...just from my own experience and from people-watching. :fence:

ITA!

I have always felt when only one side is being told about anything..... the truth will never be known. I believe it in this case as well.

But I do see that some will try to make themselves out the perfect one and will want others to believe it was ALL the other spouse's fault which I dont believe for a nano second.

IMO

 

[LotusPawprint]

This is not directed towards you, but I just find it odd that people are willing to cut the mom some slack because she is exhausted, but analyze everything the dad says under a microscope...isn't he just as exhausted as her? She shouldn't have pubically accused. If she thought he was capable of harm Dylan she should have told LE.


OAN- Has the NG show come on yet?

MR looks exhausted too.

I would imagine ER has told LE about all of her concerns about MR, no holds barred, and they are leaving no stone unturned there. I would also imagine every last concern was one of her first thoughts and first things out of her mouth to LE when MR informed her at (4-5pm?) that Dylan had been missing and unaccounted for since 7:30 that morning.

bbm - I know this has been stated over and over and over again about the dad... but he was the last person to be seen with Dylan. It's SOP to have that person under a microscope until they can be cleared and we don't have the evidence LE (hopefully) has, so we're using what we have and trying to interpret what we have. He has a lengthy period of time that's unverified (seemingly), questionable, and imo it's very hard to look for Dylan and look for the truth without all roads going through dad.

 

[Linda7NJ]

You know what, you're right?
If ER had said nothing derogatory about MR,
would he be as ' in the hot seat' as he is?
I mean yes the last one to see Dylan puts
him there somewhat , but I feel like most of the
rest of the 'feelings' about him are from her words.
Since none of us know them personally, her words
carry weight, but think of all the people you know
who continually talk S*** and even make up crazy
stories about their X just to paint them in a bad light.
I feel like what she said was an 'excited utterance' almost,
not something she thought about or maybe something
she didnt' even really MEAN to the core, but it's done its'
damage, hasn't it?

I will admit, she certainly planted a seed....for me anyway

 

[Seek&Find]

Don't you think he's done this mainly to defend himself against her accusations? In the beginning, he didn't even want to talk to the media at all.

If all he did was defend himself in the comments, maybe. Instead, he's mentioned their disagreement abt direct/transfer flight, that she'll respond to texts, but not meet with him. He's mentioned her in all the interviews I've seen of late. Seems if he wants the focus to be solely on Dylan, he could help with that by not discussing his ex.

Moo

 

[momrids6]

Now for something that I never say.....I can't wait for nancy grace tonight! Hoping for some new tid bit of info

Sometimes not being able to hear is a bonus
Try captions

 

[SmoothOperator]

Probe into missing Dylan Redwine now a criminal investigation.
http://www.9news.com/news/local/article/302570/346/Search-at-missing-boys-fathers-house-finished

For days this case has been deemed a criminal investigation..obviously the accidental theories are past ruled out.. IMO at near the same exact time that LE changed course in ruling it a criminal investigation there was another search of MR's home with a search warrant, along with tents and CSI included that ended in another round of dad being brought in for an interview.. These details are not a coincidence IMO..
TBH mom's words have not at all had anything whatsoever to do with my opinion about dad.. In fact I have not watched, nor heard a single interview with her..

As mentioned before it is the issues to do with dad and dad alone that have lead to my opinion.

 

[Linda7NJ]

I luv and soooo miss House.

You and me both! Now I have nothing to look forward to Mondays for....

 

[Seek&Find]

I do find it interesting LE has not released any pictures of the phone,backpack,clothing Dylan was described as wearing etc. How are folks suppose to know what to look for. Mom would have provided that info easily. Why has LE not released this? Have they found it? I know they described the backpack and clothing. Yet we have no idea what type of phone Dylan had.

Hm. You know, now that you mention it, we do sometimes see the details and description of the phone released in missing cases, iirc. Maybe in case that phone would've been discarded by an abductor and then found along a roadway...?? But not in this case...:dunno:

 

[katydid23]

Yes, to the media where everyone including LE could hear it but imo LE already knew this before it came out publicly.

IMO

How woud LE know that Nickelodeon was on tv that morning and that the bowl in the sink was used by Dylan? They didn't send any forensics techs for weeks. I doubt that dirty cereal bowl was still there.

And the blankets on the couch and the extrs clothes don't prove he was there safe andf sound Monday morning either, imo.

 

[Kamille]

Why would he tell "us" those things? If my son was missing, and I really wanted to find him, I don't think I'd use the limited exposure I had to people to say - he uses a {name brand and/or model of cellphone} and it probably has a dead battery. I'd rather focus on things that might actually help find him. They don't go on those shows to satisfy our curiosity, they do it to help find their child. I'm sure that he has told LE all of those things, and if they need him to give them more information, I'm sure they'll ask him. I'm just as sure that they won't tell him to make sure that all of the armchair sleuthers also get the memos! He didn't say the exact time, and may not even know. I don't usually check the time when I get home unless there's a specific reason for it. MOO

MR is under no obligation to tell anyone anything, but he has. He just seems to have left out everything that transpired between the meal at McDonalds and 7:30am the next morning. He mentioned what they did up until approximately the time the phone was no longer active and what he believes Dylan did the next morning after he was gone but nothing in between. Just seems odd to me, that's all.

I believe LE themselves have put out the information that the cell phone has not been active since about 8pm the previous evening. I just thought he'd want to let the public know that Dylan does have one with him, what brand it is and whether or not it may be possible that it was or was not charged. If the phone was charged, and it has not been active at all, then people should be on the lookout for the phone itself in the case of an abduction since that is the first thing an abductor is likely to destroy and toss away.

I'm just as curious as to why LE is not putting out this information TBH.

MOO

 

[Nolita]

I do find it interesting LE has not released any pictures of the phone,backpack,clothing Dylan was described as wearing etc. How are folks suppose to know what to look for. Mom would have provided that info easily. Why has LE not released this? Have they found it? I know they described the backpack and clothing. Yet we have no idea what type of phone Dylan had.

That's what makes no sense to me! It seems like that would be one of the first peices of info they would put out there. I just don't understand why we do not have this info? Does anyone have a clue??:banghead:

 

[PoeticJustice]

Thanks. And your feelings AND your experiences are very REAL. Not a diversionary tactic made up to make your ex "look" bad. I'm thinking her actions did that all by themselves. You are entitled to your reality.

Thank you so much for that post. It's amazing when I meet such intelligent minds that can so easily understand where I'd be coming from. I learned the whole "you're entitled to your feelings and emotions" way too late in adult hood. <3

That is why I put aside my own past experiences when looking at cases and do not let my mind become biased. I do not compare the cases to my own as I have no clue what really happened in this marriage and who was at fault. Frankly I doubt either was perfect. We have no idea who was controlling or who was treated like crap......could be both of them were.

I just think it has a way of clouding my judgment if I equate ex-relationships with my own.

Its no different to me than another female automatically believing a female claiming abuse without questioning it. I have seen some women who were abused and if a woman claims abuse they will automatically believe it because they had been abused too. Not me....I question everything and I was abused in my childhood and adulthood. Women can be some of the biggest liars ever......yeah even about being abused too. We have even seen cases where the female lied when she said she was abused.

IMO

I understand exactly what you're saying. Although I believe that if she took a protective order out, she most likely isn't lying.

My X complains very loudly and and very publicly about her mental health issues, her multiple rapes, and physical abuse...obviously now looking back I question so much of what she'd told me, and it disgusts me as a woman that other women are undoing what we're trying to educate society about, and they're crying Wolf.

As I said in my previous post, I'm still very angry and bitter about my own personal experiences and I wouldn't hesistate to rip my X a new hole or two, especially if I knew she was involved with something sinister and I felt that putting the spotlight on her character and past would help point LE in the right direction. I'm still telling the truth, however unsavory and angry I tell it.

If ER believes in her heart that MR had something to do with her son's disappearance, I wouldn't fault her for her not wanting long drawn out speculation on who it could be.

That said, I wouldn't want to nullify MR's pain or exhaustion just yet, as he's not been ruled as a POI or suspect.

 

[PlainJaneDoe]

You and me both! Now I have nothing to look forward to Mondays for....

Yah, and now CSI:Miami is gone. (I know...it was most recently on Sundays, but when I had cable it was on Mondays.) :sigh:

 

[Linda7NJ]

Ohhhhhh. That's not good. Not good at all. Kinda mean really.

One of my dearest friends has been going through a horrifically messy divorce....it's been going on for four years. Her greatest fear is he is going to kill the children on a visit. Her fear is based on his behavior. He does not want to let her go. He refuses to agree on anything, everything is decided in court. Why? He can force her to be in the same room as him

 

[LotusPawprint]

I'll recap Nancy Grace's show for you now, before it comes on !
Because I have seen it . It starts with a giant BREAKING NEWS banner across
the screen, most likely with some graphics and sounds of SIRENS like off the top
of a police car too. Her breaking news will be something we discussed 8 days ago
like...... DID DYLAN HAVE A FISHING POLE? She'll beat that topic to death for half
an hour with a team of 'experts' who are way less smart than her because she talks
over and interrupts everything they say. She'll threaten at least one defense attorney, unrelated to the case, but who is on the show as a guest to give insight . She'll say "" IF THAT WERE MY CHILD, I WOULD FLY TO THE MOON BEFORE LEAVING HIM HOME ALONE" . ( note her children are about 3 yrs old so of course they can't be left alone) . Then she'll take a few calls from interested but unrelated parties across the country and they'll ask a great question and she'll say that is a GREAT question and go to commercial break and you'll never hear the answer !

YOU"RE WELCOME !

ETA I would be shocked if anything ' new ' comes from the nancy show !

Why is it they always seem to put through the STUPID questions? Like......Why can't they force dad to take a polygraph....makes me want to rip my hair out!

And don't forget people calling in, saying "I love you, Nancy."
:floorlaugh:

Ahh... hysterical.
"Cut HIS MIC!" "
Liz, put him up. I said. PUT.HIM.UP.PUT HIM UP.!"
.... family album time.... shout out to friend of the show Mildred who hasn't missed our show in 30 years....
BOMBSHELLS
#hashtag #ILOVETOMAKEADIFFERENCE

 

[Pensfan]

Nancy Grace (I know...take it for what it's worth) says dad failed a polygraph.

Dylan's mom is on Nancy Grace tonight.

 

[scorekeeper]

dad failed poly - another search???

per NG