CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #8

[ICUDOUCME]

Mark Redwine said he was told there's an area of Vallecito Reservoir that's “of interest” to law enforcement. This follows a search by New Mexico state dive crews Nov. 25 near the Vallecito dam. At that time, nothing was found.

http://durangoherald.com/article/20...900/Family-keeps-faith-through-adverse-time--

Find this of interest as well, still focusing on the Lake area.

 

[CUCKOOHEAD]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiFNFsfXelY"]Uncut: Mark Redwine talks about son's dissapearance - YouTube[/ame]

Is MR giving his true thoughts away with his shaking his head no to so many questions? He quits shaking his head no when he wants the investigation to remain focused on the sightings of Dylan and that Dylan's friends are important to Dylan and MR knows that.

MR mentions Dylan's friends and how important they are/were to Dylan at least four time in this interview. IMO this is a sore point with this man.

MR wants the focus be on the hours between when he left for his errands and when he got back at 5:35 in the interview 'that's part of the struggle WE all have, you know, what happened to him between the time I left and the time I got back'. He quits the 'no' shaking during this part.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Any narcissism she 'might' have known about. Everything's a supposition.

There was not a single soul in my ex's sphere that would have known the extent of his sickness. He didn't have close friends, close enough to know the real person, the only relationships he maintained were enablers and everyone else was simply superficial fan base.

Although when it became public that he was having sex with a 17 year old student, LOTS of people started saying they had seen signs, just never would have believed it of him.

Ok but respectfully what does that have to do with Mr. Redwine?

Lots of us here including myself have had plenty of bad history with exes... some who may have been fullblown narcissitic but I dont think we can judge someone else from afar that we have never even known or met before and speculate they may be a narcissist based soley on our own experiences. For all we know Dylan's mom may be very controlling which isnt uncommon. Thats the thing we just dont know either one either way.

Jmo though

 

[pinto]

Well it sure sounds they identified whoever was running.

As far as I can tell, they still haven't identified the second person ... everything says it may have been the jogger OR it may have been Dylan. That's just what WE know, though; it's possible they have ruled that out, but I haven't read that ... and that's why I'm curious.

 

[jjenny]

As far as I can tell, they still haven't identified the second person ... everything says it may have been the jogger OR it may have been Dylan. That's just what WE know, though; it's possible they have ruled that out, but I haven't read that ... and that's why I'm curious.

This was an old article. Back then LE was saying they believe Dylan might have run away. Now LE is saying they ruled that out. So clearly whoever was running wasn't Dylan. Since Dylan didn't run away, it wouldn't be him running away from rescue workers in either instance.

 

[nursebeeme]

thank you for posting that interview. It solidifies my feeling that Dylan's father had nothing to do with this.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Mark Redwine said he was told there's an area of Vallecito Reservoir that's “of interest” to law enforcement. This follows a search by New Mexico state dive crews Nov. 25 near the Vallecito dam. At that time, nothing was found.

http://durangoherald.com/article/20...900/Family-keeps-faith-through-adverse-time--

Find this of interest as well, still focusing on the Lake area.

I really think he is there and I cant understand why they stopped searching so quickly. They searched for my neighbor's body for TWO MONTHS and it was only then that they finally gave up even though they knew she was in the lake.......they just couldnt find her but they darn sure tried and tried and tried their best.

I think Dylan slipped.... fell in and drowned. I have felt this from the beginning.

IMO

 

[i8mypaint]

Doesn't Walmart have a ton of cameras outside as well? The one by me does. I think I counted six on the outside

 

[jennapuppy]

What about the boys the postal worker talked about? Anyone see anything about that?

I know it's been said that the joggers have been identified, but I don't recall hearing an update on this sighting. If this sighting was near an RSO's home, as Salem stated, I hope LE is taking a good look at him, and maybe that's why they haven't discussed it any further.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

thank you for posting that interview. It solidifies my feeling that Dylan's father had nothing to do with this.

Me too nursey.

I think poor Dylan had a terrible accident in and around the lake/dam area and has drowned.

He probably thought he had enough time to go fish awhile before his daddy got back home.

God how I hope they find him and bring him home.

I dont understand why they ever stopped searching knowing they got his scent there for two days in a row.

IMO

 

[jjenny]

I really think he is there and I cant understand why they stopped searching so quickly. They searched for my neighbor's body for TWO MONTHS and it was only then that they finally gave up even though they knew she was in the lake.......they just couldnt find her but they darn sure tried and tried and tried their best.

I think Dylan slipped.... fell in and drowned. I have felt this from the beginning.

IMO

Because they got no evidence whatsoever connecting Dylan to the lake. And they never got his scent at the lake. The scent they got is the scent of decomposition. Cadaver dogs hit on scent of decomposition.

 

[OneLove]

Ok but respectfully what does that have to do with Mr. Redwine?

Lots of us here including myself have had plenty of bad history with exes... some who may have been fullblown narcissitic but I dont think we can judge someone else from afar that we have never even known or met before and speculate they may be a narcissist based soley on our own experiences. For all we know Dylan's mom may be very controlling which isnt uncommon. Thats the thing we just dont know either one either way.

Jmo though

Those who have worked professionally with narcissists and/ or known one in their lives pick up the subtle cues that others might not. Profilers, behaviorists, neurolinguistic analysts, and criminal investigators note the cues that others might miss. Here at this forum, for instance, we see a wide range among viewers of the video-store interview as to exactly what it is they saw. Some see a concerned and gentle father, some see other cues.

I guess we just don't know, right up until we do.

I try to keep all doors open until there is something SOLID to close a particular door. And that is what we expect of investigators also. We all want Dylan to come home.

 

[Salem]

I tend to agree... if Dylan was caught on a security cam ANYWHERE, wouldn't LE be stating so? Unless I've missed something, LE has only confirmed that Dylan arrived in La Plata County but nothing confirmed afterwards.

I think not yet. Nurse said there is a link explaining that LE began reviewing the videos this weekend. Then it will depend on where LE thinks they are in the investigation as to whether or not they will release the video. It is at their discretion. If they think it will help, then they will release it. If, for some reason, they think it could give away a clue or interfere with something they are working on, they will not release it. BUT.. it is very likely that if LE finds something, they will get word to MSM, so even if they don't release any video they might find, they will say they did/did not find something. Crossing my fingers that news comes later today or early tomorrow.

Salem

 

[jjenny]

Me too nursey.

I think poor Dylan had a terrible accident in and around the lake/dam area and has drowned.

He probably thought he had enough time to go fish awhile before his daddy got back home.

God how I hope they find him and bring him home.

I dont understand why they ever stopped searching knowing they got his scent there for two days in a row.

IMO

They did not get his scent at the lake. At all. Cadaver dogs don't hit on a specific scent of a live person.

 

[SailorMoon]

I tend to agree... if Dylan was caught on a security cam ANYWHERE, wouldn't LE be stating so? Unless I've missed something, LE has only confirmed that Dylan arrived in La Plata County but nothing confirmed afterwards.

You know the only reason I can think of that LE wouldn't say anything - is if they don't want to make someone panic or give an indicator that they are on to them. KWIM??

 

[ICUDOUCME]

I really think he is there and I cant understand why they stopped searching so quickly. They searched for my neighbor's body for TWO MONTHS and it was only then that they finally gave up even though they knew she was in the lake.......they just couldnt find her but they darn sure tried and tried and tried their best.

I think Dylan slipped.... fell in and drowned. I have felt this from the beginning.

IMO

IMO I think they gave up to easy, and should bring in someone with better equipment, as we know the SARS said he would bring in more dogs to recheck to see if they hit in the same area as well. I believe that the sonar they had is a fish finder(as I was listening to them requesting high end fish finders)...This is not what I would want them to use, knowing there is better equipment out there to do the job. I really wish that someone would do it! As for the divers they are great, and from the area I reside in, but don't work with these dogs, and have little faith in them as they are from LaPlata Co, not the dogs they work with here in San Juan Co.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Because they got no evidence whatsoever connecting Dylan to the lake. And they never got his scent at the lake. The scent they got is the scent of decomposition. Cadaver dogs hit on scent of decomposition.

Well cadavar dogs know the difference between animal decomp and human decomp as they are trained to detect only human decomp.

So there is a human being in that lake that is decomposing and the dive teams should not have left until they found the person. No one is missing but Dylan or we would have heard about it.

IMO

 

[OneLove]

Me too nursey.

I think poor Dylan had a terrible accident in and around the lake/dam area and has drowned.

He probably thought he had enough time to go fish awhile before his daddy got back home.

God how I hope they find him and bring him home.

I dont understand why they ever stopped searching knowing they got his scent there for two days in a row.

IMO

Cadaver scent in water bodies is something I know nothing about. Question: the dogs hit on scent out on open water. So if Dylan slipped in the water, then drowned, he would not be deceased until he was submerged. Would the cadaver scent then float up to the surface? Or would cadaver scent have to be present BEFORE it sinks into the water at the "hit" location?

 

[jjenny]

Well cadavar dogs know the difference between animal decomp and human decomp as they are trained to detect only human decomp.

So there is a human being in that lake that is decomposing and the dive teams should not have left until they found the person. No one is missing but Dylan or we would have heard about it.

IMO

These dogs are not a 100 % accurate.
So, yes, they could confuse some other smell with that of human decomposition.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

IMO I think they gave up to easy, and should bring in someone with better equipment, as we know the SARS said he would bring in more dogs to recheck to see if they hit in the same area as well. I believe that the sonar they had is a fish finder(as I was listening to them requesting high end fish finders)...This is not what I would want them to use, knowing there is better equipment out there to do the job. I really wish that someone would do it! As for the divers they are great, and from the area I reside in, but don't work with these dogs, and have little faith in them as they are from LaPlata Co, not the dogs they work with here in San Juan Co.

In our neighbor's case the searchers told us there are so many hidden pockets in large lakes that can hide a body and keep it from rising or it can get trapped underneath tree roots or rotted out tree stumps or debris. They said eventually with time the body would break apart due to decomp time and when that happens the body is rarely ever found.

Another young man drowned in our area when he was hunting ducks from his boat and fell out. His body went over the dam nearby and was found many miles away three months later.

IMO