CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #9

[PaulR]

Huh? Her ATTEMPT to have custody over him?..uhh..she does have complete custody over him..in fact was awarded sole custody just this year to which dad had to afterward go back to court to even receive VISITATION...

I know a bunch of divorced couples. IMHO whenever one parent wants "sole custody" of the kids, it's because the divorce was bitter and it's to get the other parent "back" somehow.

Something like this should put things into perspective for parents, kids are not things that you win or lose in a court battle. :furious:

 

[scorekeeper]

Mom said on NG that his time that morning was ' confirmed' by LE , so who knows. I guess he's got receipts and video or people who saw him, so he was
running the errands.

wanting people to see him?
wanting to appear to doing "normal" things
setting up....

If Le can say Monday errands are confirmed, why can't/don't they confirm the Walmart and Mcd's visits???

Makes no sense to me (well it does but....I'm not buying what he is selling)

 

[mck16]

Any incident of DV is considered Child Abuse if it occurs with the child present-

It is true that texts will get through even when cell service is spotty... If I didn't know this already it was hammered home this week-end when a dump truck driver with his dump box still up sliced a fiber cable... the entire town was effected-no ATMs or credit cards, some internet, land lines and local cell service was interrupted (extent did vary between carriers) but we could still send and receive texts.

what you say is true but I have found that when cell service is limited the texts are not delivered in a timely manner. the text may arrive 10 minutes to an hour later. just my experience.

 

[Bravo]

Great point BRAVO ! BRAVO !
I have not thought of this.
All we know is Dylan was not heard from after 8 pm.
That does not mean they arrived home at 8. They could
have still be inside walmart at 8:02 or something.
Its' funny how you can read the same statement
about 1000 times in a week and not READ what it says.
nice

Well many of us have logged countless hours here and I know some things are getting muddled in my brain :seeya: lol

 

[scorekeeper]

Combined with her "statement" (if you want to call it that) about the lie detector on NG, I think that says a lot about HER character and personality.

She displayed a lot of interest in knowing exactly when Dylan arrived in Durango.

Just sayin'.

She better have....her son was flying on a plane....13 years old....What parent wouldn't want to know that their child arrived safely at their destination?

 

[Nolita]

Can someone clear this up for me? I was under the impression that Dylan had been texting his friends that night? Does MR say when? If the last text was sent out at 7:06 to his mom, did that really give Dylan enough time to finalize his plans for the next day? I confused.

 

[Ronso]

She better have....her son was flying on a plane....13 years old....What parent wouldn't want to know that their child arrived safely at their destination?

My parents live an hour and a half away (75 miles), and I call multiple times a day when my kids are out there. I want to know everything is okay. I am their mother and I care about them. Nothing nefarious about it.

 

[Bravo]

LE knows what time that plane landed and I'm sure Mom does too. She didn't comment on NG that there was a block of time before hearing from Dylan. It didn't seem to be a concern. I conclude that when she rec'd the text he had arrived and was with Dad it was realtime. MOO

 

[mck16]

wanting people to see him?
wanting to appear to doing "normal" things
setting up....

If Le can say Monday errands are confirmed, why can't/don't they confirm the Walmart and Mcd's visits???

Makes no sense to me (well it does but....I'm not buying what he is selling)

I think the reason the errands were reported as confirmed was because the LE chief was on NG and she asked him about them. Was anyone from LE on her show tonight? tia

 

[SCHMAE]

wanting people to see him?
wanting to appear to doing "normal" things
setting up....

If Le can say Monday errands are confirmed, why can't/don't they confirm the Walmart and Mcd's visits???

Makes no sense to me (well it does but....I'm not buying what he is selling)

 

[Seajay]

I noticed nothing was addressed on NG about the original plans being for Dylan to spend the night with his friends instead of his father. I also noticed I knew more about the case by being here than NG knew going into it.

 

[mrsu]

I meant, where did the info about McDonalds being inside Walmart came from? That apparently was speculation.

I think it was speculation based on the fact that many Super Walmarts have McDonalds in them. Our local one does.

 

[Salem]

Huh? Her ATTEMPT to have custody over him?..uhh..she does have complete custody over him..in fact was awarded sole custody just this year to which dad had to afterward go back to court to even receive VISITATION...

You need to link this up, please. My understanding is that recent court activity was related to Mom's moving Dylan away and Dad's ensuring that he would have visitation.

Thanks,

Salem

 

[PaulR]

LE knows what time that plane landed and I'm sure Mom does too. She didn't comment on NG that there was a block of time before hearing from Dylan. It didn't seem to be a concern. I conclude that when she rec'd the text he had arrived and was with Dad it was realtime. MOO

Has that been stated? I got the impression that Dylan sent a text to his mom when he landed and was still on the plane (like most people he turned on his cell phone as soon as the plane was on the tarmac.) It would have taken him a few minutes to get off the plane and meet his dad at arrivals.

 

[LotusPawprint]

I wonder if they took the computer to see if Dylan ever went on that night or the next morning.

It is hard for me to believe he would have eaten cereal and watched Nickelodean, buyt he wouldnt have looked at his inbox of text messages or logged onto his computer programs and checked out instagram or FB or soemthing like that. When my kids were that age they watched tv, while logged on to their computer, while looking at their phone, while doing their homework.

Good idea about the computer. I'd think even it was password protected, he might have one set up (via dad) on dad's computer... this is NOT the first time Dylan was at dad's house and we know by now that Dylan is tech saavy so it's likely in the past he would've used the computer.

It's hard for me to find any reason why he would be in that house and wouldn't use:
his cell
the landline
the computer

to call/text/facebook/e-communicate:
mom
brother
dad
friends

especially, as you alluded to, if he's sitting down to a breakfast watching TV.

I'm confused. Still.

 

[OneLove]

I know a bunch of divorced couples. IMHO whenever one parent wants "sole custody" of the kids, it's because the divorce was bitter and it's to get the other parent "back" somehow.

Something like this should put things into perspective for parents, kids are not things that you win or lose in a court battle. :furious:

Children should NEVER be pawns for the parents selfish emotional needs. That said, oftentimes one parent just wants their child to have a stable, safe, and responsible home in which to grow up free from fear and worry and the OTHER parent just wants to use the child as a pawn to get at the responsible parent. It's often the LAST weapon they have to use when they have lost "control" by any other means.

Sometimes loving a child means letting them be happy in a stable home environment instead of jerking them around just to prove you still can.

 

[Ransom]

Huh? Her ATTEMPT to have custody over him?..uhh..she does have complete custody over him..in fact was awarded sole custody just this year to which dad had to afterward go back to court to even receive VISITATION...

She said she was awarded sole (primary) custody of Dylan on Sept. 21. Previously she and Mark Redwine had shared custody. On Nov. 18, Dylan flew here for his first visit with his father since that court decision, Elaine said.
http://www.pinerivertimes.com/news.asp?artid=1091

He didn't have to go back to court to "even receive visitation", IMO. It was part of the decision on Sept. 21, 2012. IMO.

 

[Kamille]

I know a bunch of divorced couples. IMHO whenever one parent wants "sole custody" of the kids, it's because the divorce was bitter and it's to get the other parent "back" somehow.

Something like this should put things into perspective for parents, kids are not things that you win or lose in a court battle. :furious:

I could be wrong but I believe the sole custody was awarded when ER needed to move due to a job transfer and MR was trying to block that move because he had joint custody of Dylan? So ER had to go to court to gain sole custody so she could move?

MOO

 

[scorekeeper]

If the computer was off and required a login like most computers do, Dylan may not have been able to use it.

He was there in September. LE may have his phone records and computer information from then.

It's probably should have been one of the first things he wanted to do when he got there (to talk to his friends via FB or whatever).....since some think his phone may have been dead around 8 pm...

He was a techo-savy kid.

JMO

 

[SmoothOperator]

I know a bunch of divorced couples. IMHO whenever one parent wants "sole custody" of the kids, it's because the divorce was bitter and it's to get the other parent "back" somehow.

Something like this should put things into perspective for parents, kids are not things that you win or lose in a court battle. :furious:

Uhhh..no..not the case they shared joint custody for over five years that certai.ly is not indicative of the children being used by anyone..none of us know what took place so the using kids as pawns by either parent here are IMO unwarranted accusations.