CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #9

[nursebeeme]

Nurse, is that because of the last few posts ?
Sometimes when a bump up occurs, I am not
sure which rule was broken.

I have spent the better part of an hour cleaning up this thread from last night. It is a general bump.

That being said several of the posts are attempting to "go there" in speculation on Dylan's Father who has not been named a suspect.

In keeping with that here is the latest from LE (I did not see it linked to last night)

The search has moved from the wilderness surrounding Vallecito to indoors where investigators can evaluate evidence and follow up on tips and possible sightings, said Lt. Ray Shupe, spokesman for a task force made up of multiple agencies assigned to the case.

“We have no new leads or new information to report to the public at this time,” Shupe said in a news release Monday afternoon.

Possible sightings of Dylan have streamed in from across the country, he said, but there have been no confirmed sightings since he went missing Nov. 19. The FBI has been helpful at prodding agencies in other jurisdictions to follow up on possible leads, Shupe said.

another snip

Authorities executed a search warrant last week at the house of Mark Redwine, the father of Dylan, but the father is not considered a suspect, said Capt. Jim Ezzell, chief investigator with the La Plata County Sheriff’s Office.

http://durangoherald.com/article/20121203/NEWS01/121209881/-1/s

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

They have been divorced for a long time. Maybe she hasn't kept up on his job duties. And as I recall she didn't say she doesn't know where he works, she said she doesn't know what exactly he does at work.

Possibly she didn't feel like she should be (or was told by LE not to be) revealing info regarding MR that does not pertain to her directly?

Just a thought...

 

[SCHMAE]

I have spent the better part of an hour cleaning up this thread from last night. It is a general bump.

That being said several of the posts are attempting to "go there" in speculation on Dylan's Father who has not been named a suspect.

In keeping with that here is the latest from LE (I did not see it linked to last night)



another snip



http://durangoherald.com/article/20121203/NEWS01/121209881/-1/s

I see. Tks and sorry. I was here for baby lisa thread last year but didn't post, maybe not even once. So posting and following rules is a new concept ! I misunderstood. I thought we could suspect dad, just not accuse him. Like , either dylan fell or got abducted or dad did something or mom did something. I thought we could include him in possible scenarios, not just pinpoint him. Sorry :blushing:

 

[Crosby87]

Okay, now, where were we? Hello everyone! :seeya:

Oh, I know:

On Sunday, November 18, MR sez he told Dylan it was "too late" for him to go to his friend's house (around about 8 p.m. or so, based on LE's statements regarding the last activity from Dylan's phone).As I stated in a prior post, IMO, 8 p.m. doesn't seem like "too late" in my book.

Dylan has been described as "tech-savvy" (i.e. someone who knows how to communicate electronically). Yet, despite being in a home that we now know to have a computer with internet access, NO ONE heard from Dylan after 8 p.m. on Sunday, November 18th, even though he was excited to get together with his friends & had plans to get together with them the following day after dad quashed the plans on the night of the 18th.

According to ER (Dylan's mom), per her NG interview, Dylan would have woken up at 6:30 to go see his friends (since he was used to waking up early to go to school, and would have also been excited to see his friends).

I'm thinking LE has listened to both sides (from both parents), and I'm thinking they're skeptical of the info MR has been giving them.

I agree with you about 8 pm not being too late to drop Dylan off at his friend's house.

Dylan and his friends were on vacation so it wasn't too late for DR to go there so what happened and WHERE? Obviously an altercation did not occur in a parking lot.

I believe ER who said she was sure her son would have gotten up Monday morning so something happened Sunday night on the way home from the airport.

 

[catswhiskers]

Snipped by me from the CNN transcripts (linked by Ransom some posts back) of the Nancy Grace interview with ER

GRACE: What do you know about the father`s polygraph?
REDWINE: You know, I don`t know much. I know that, you know, everyone is encouraging him to take that. So hopefully, he will do that soon so we can get him out of the picture, and you know, focus on where Dylan is.
GRACE: Has the father taken a polygraph?
REDWINE: You know, I`m not sure. I know he`s been asked to.
GRACE: Do you know if he took it?
REDWINE: I do not at this time, no.
GRACE: Is it your understanding that he`s failed a polygraph?
REDWINE: No, I don`t think he failed a polygraph. You know, I don`t know the specifics behind that. I don`t think he necessarily failed. But you know, I don`t have any information on that. So it`s real -- it`s real tough for me to answer that question.
GRACE: Elaine, when you were speaking earlier to our producers, you mentioned it was your understanding that he had failed a polygraph.
REDWINE: No, I didn`t say he had failed the polygraph.
GRACE: OK. Good. I`m glad you can clarify that. So what is your understanding, then?
REDWINE: I think it was inconclusive.
GRACE: Is he being asked to take another?
REDWINE: I believe so, yes, he is.

Hard to make sense of IMO (a bit like a cross examination really, so mum under pressure) - but sheesh people have been all over the claim MR failed a poly.

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

Elaine just wants her Son found and her Son back. She would gain nothing by lying about him???? She is a terrified Mother. Why would she keep focus on her Ex and not on just finding her Son. Some may argue what i just stated. I ask do you really think Cory or the rest of the Family would stand by and listen to Mom lie when they so desperately want Dylan home. Perhaps Mom was terrified about sending him. We dont know.

Agreed... It is arguable if the derogatory statements made by mom towards dad were acceptable... But we have not heard anyone in or around the family disagree with them.... or, in fairness, agree with them, either...

JMO

 

[TxLady2]

Wow. I think I'm going to have to take a break. It's the same old same old, back and forth, round and round and on and on and on and on. Life experiences and opinions don't amount to much when we don't know diddly squat about these folks in real life. You can't really judge what a person is like, whether they're lying, telling the truth or a little of both, from just an interview or two. So I will stay on the fence until something comes along to shove me over, either direction.

That is all.

 

[SCHMAE]

I agree with you about 8 pm not being too late to drop Dylan off at his friend's house.

Dylan and his friends were on vacation so it wasn't too late for DR to go there so what happened and WHERE? Obviously an altercation did not occur in a parking lot.

I believe ER who said she was sure her son would have gotten up Monday morning so something happened Sunday night on the way home from the airport.

We get up very early 4 or 5 am and go to bed pretty early as well. My kids stay up later but to me 8 is late to ' begin' an evening with friends. Also someone mentioned that given drive time , by the time they finished walmart and then drove to said friends' house it would have been more like 9 or 9:30. That friends' parents probably had to go to work on Monday morning and MR was just being courteous and thinking its' not fair to drop off a kid that time of night when a household is settling down. Food for thought.

 

[Crosby87]

It may be coincidence, but older brother is 21yo. Three years ago would bring us back to when older brother turned 18yo, aging out of any court-mandated visitation. Prior to that, It seems likely that both boys visited MR together; once the older boy turned 18yo, perhaps MR didn't see either boy as much, even though the visitation schedule for Dylan was still in effect.

Of added note, it occured to me that the 2003 child abuse allegations reported on NG's show would have been around the time that Dylan's older brother was about the same age that Dylan is now....[/QUOTE]

Thank you for pointing this out.

 

[TexasCharm]

Wow. I think I'm going to have to take a break. It's the same old same old, back and forth, round and round and on and on and on and on. Life experiences and opinions don't amount to much when we don't know diddly squat about these folks in real life. You can't really judge what a person is like, whether they're lying, telling the truth or a little of both, from just an interview or two. So I will stay on the fence until something comes along to shove me over, either direction.

That is all.

I'm with you TxL .. back and forth, round and round .. and the speculation being repeated so much it 'becomes fact' ...

Personally, it's really really really sad to me that two adult people can't seperate and have their differences without dragging their kids through crap. I hope whoever the instigator(s) in this apparent ongoing feud is .. is really evaluating how much keeping the crap stirred up was worth it now ...

stupid stupid stupid .. IMO

None of us know these people, whether or not someone would get up, stay asleep, text or eat first .. whether mom or dad is lying or telling the truth ... it's craziness what is passed around here as gospel .. according to whichever parent is believed .. ugh.

I'll sit on the fence with you and wait for something further. I'm tired.

Peace. Out.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

I dont think Dylan had a history of Hitchhiking.

I think it could have been mentiond by the kids but Im not so sure he actually ever hitched a ride,

Like if kids make plans and one says, "hey i cant get a ride there saturday maybe i can hitch a ride."

I dont think its ever been proven hes hitched anywhere.

I tend to think that he did hitchhike but the parents never knew it until now.

Usually close friends no way more what a teen does than the parents. I see no reason for his close friends to lie about such a thing.

I never had any conversations about hitchhiking with our five children even though they all grew up in a very rural setting where they knew almost everyone. The only way that subject would have come up if I knew they had hitchhiked. I just didnt think they would ever do it but they did walk a lot down the roads to see different friends. Now Im not sure they never hitchhiked. I think maybe they did but they knew we wouldnt approve so they wouldnt have mentioned it.

IMO

 

[hollyblue]

We get up very early 4 or 5 am and go to bed pretty early as well. My kids stay up later but to me 8 is late to ' begin' an evening with friends. Also someone mentioned that given drive time , by the time they finished walmart and then drove to said friends' house it would have been more like 9 or 9:30. That friends' parents probably had to go to work on Monday morning and MR was just being courteous and thinking its' not fair to drop off a kid that time of night when a household is settling down. Food for thought.

I believe arrangements would have been made ahead of time if he was going to be dropped off at a buddy's house....and time wouldn't have really mattered. It could be the friend's parents disagreed just because if was his first night back and thought he should stay with his dad too; but we won't know unless the friend or his parent tells it. Or DR's mother knew about it.

The only thing that keeps me on the fence and doubting the father is no cell phone or computer access by DG after 8 pm. I could see him being sleepy after a meal at McD's and then zonking after watching TV for a bit, but with no activity the next morning...definitely hinky. IMO

 

[tamild]

I've been following this case along with my 13 yo daughter, and she would like me to ask a question. Do we know if the computer that Dylan uses at ER's house has been examined? TIA

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

My mom has a big pink rotary phone exactly like that. She keeps it kind of for a joke. But the first time she showed my kids how it worked, and we had them
dial it, and wait for each number to turn, they died laughing. It even has DAvenport, our old prefix printed on it. lol

O/T...

OMG... Katydid.... Our prefix was DAvenport, too!...(Torrance, CA)

Do you also remember having to "share" the lines with other neighbors... And they would pop in if we were on the line too long? (Can't remember the term of shared lines at the moment).....:floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh:

ETA... "Party Line" is the term... Just remember it!

 

[TexasCharm]

O/T...

OMG... Katydid.... Our prefix was DAvenport, too!...(Torrance, CA)

Do you also remember having to "share" the lines with other neighbors... And they would pop in if we were on the line too long? (Can't remember the term of shared lines at the moment).....:floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh:

Party Line?

 

[oceanblueeyes]

We get up very early 4 or 5 am and go to bed pretty early as well. My kids stay up later but to me 8 is late to ' begin' an evening with friends. Also someone mentioned that given drive time , by the time they finished walmart and then drove to said friends' house it would have been more like 9 or 9:30. That friends' parents probably had to go to work on Monday morning and MR was just being courteous and thinking its' not fair to drop off a kid that time of night when a household is settling down. Food for thought.

And I sure wouldnt take my child to someone's home at 6:30 in the morning either unless the family had planned a day trip or were going to be leaving town on a vaca at that time and my child had been invited.

Even teens get tired. Dylan had stayed up until 4 in the morning the night before and then flew in that evening. Imo, when a child finally sits still they will crash and be out like a light and some dont even want to roll out of bed until noon no matter what time they went to sleep especially if it is not a school day.

One of our grandson's never has one problem getting up early to go to school but on his down days away from school he sleeps late.

IMO

 

[Bravo]

O/T...

OMG... Katydid.... Our prefix was DAvenport, too!...(Torrance, CA)

Do you also remember having to "share" the lines with other neighbors... And they would pop in if we were on the line too long? (Can't remember the term of shared lines at the moment).....:floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh:

LOL Party lines!!!! Ha!!!! My Auntie had one. Small town and everybody knew each others biz :floorlaugh: Never could figure out with a ton of money why they wouldn't pay for a private line. I think she liked to listen too :floorlaugh:

 

[oceanblueeyes]

LOL Party lines!!!! Ha!!!! My Auntie had one. Small town and everybody knew each others biz :floorlaugh: Never could figure out with a ton of money why they wouldn't pay for a private line. I think she liked to listen too :floorlaugh:

Im really dating myself but I remember my mom and dad having a party line before we finally got a private line. Everyone would listen in on all the calls.:floorlaugh:

 

[Bravo]

Gosh these threads still are moving. Resonding to an earlier post. The only time frame that has been accounted for and verified by LE and Mom of MR is the Monday morning errands. No other timeframe has been verified to date. Publicly. Also the 8 p.m. is when Dylans phone went off. We have no time on when MH and Dylan arrived back at the House.

 

[Crosby87]

I'm thinking as far as court and custody were concerned and I don't know any different since we are not allowed to sleuth those records, but my thought on this was, ER got a better job that paid more money in CS. She asked to take Dylan there so she could take the job. MR didn't like the idea of Dylan being further away. When he could see his child, it was more convenient to have him closer, where he could also see him more often, so I imagine he was not a happy camper about that.

I think ER presented her case for advancement and pay increase for her job so the judge approved the move. I can see MR not being happy about it. That supposedly got worked out on September 21 st from what I understand.

Now they have to have alternate time for the holidays with Dylan. Mark had his turn first, then Elaine was going to get Christmas. Next year Elaine would probably get Thanksgiving, Mark would get Christmas. This was the first holiday since the decision was made. It was no doubt a compromise.

All the other times Mark had Dylan, nothing happened. We don't know how often he spent with his dad, or spent the night or went on vacations in the years since they parents filed for divorce.I think a bigger deal has been made out of this "court ordered, forced visitation" thing.

My son is getting a divorce, he had the kids for Thanksgiving, she'll have them for Christmas. No court involvement yet, but I imagine when the divorce is final, something will be in writing about the agreement they've made. I guess that would now be "court ordered, forced visitation?"

ER said MR wasn't ever involved in Dylan's life so I don't think Dylan spent much time with his father after his parents divorced. His parents may have separated long before they divorced too.