CO- Dylan Redwine's case discussed on Dr. Phil ONLY!- 2/26/13 ***SPOILERS***

[missrugby]

I am just going to say this...growing up with a father who has some of the same similarities as MR (hey ya can't pick your family don't judge me) when I became an adult I was a lot like CR. parent or not if they don't earn respect they don't get it. Also, CR knows MR way better than we do and if his experience with his father is anything like mine (and it does seem to be) he can look at his father and hear his words and know if he is telling the truth. I'm sure he grew up hearing all of his lies and can spot them a mile away. I don't think the way they feel about MR has anything to do with their belief that MR is responsible for DR disappearance because they can hate him with a passion and not want to believe he would do this. They know MR, they have lived with MR, they are estranged from MR and this all happened way before DR disappeared for a reason. IMO they know exactly what MR is capable of. From everything we know about MR's relationships with his other children I'm having a hard time believing that he felt any different towards DR. As harsh as this may sound because most of us can't imagine doing something like this there are people in this world who do and it sounds like throughout his family relationships he has shown just how cold he is. I haven't seen anything from MR that shows any love or concern for his son. I also want to add, and this is JMOO, but a mother has instincts about her children that no one else has. I have them for my son, and I'm sure ER does too and that is where her anger and hurt is coming from. She knows and she's frustrated that MR won't give her answers. Heck it's frustrating to ME so ER's frustration is multiplied infinity! She's the only parent who has acted like a concerned parent, and IMO she can say, act, and do whatever she wants because her baby is missing. She isn't concerned with the way she looks to the public...she doesn't care all she cares about is finding DR, and that's exactly the way a concerned parent should act. People have criticized her for a couple of things she has said, but to me the things she has said speaks volumes and she had her reasons for saying them. This is all JMO and all that!

 

[cluciano63]

Why does anyone think CR and ER would want to focus on MR if they did not honestly believe he has answers? One only has to look at them to see how their worlds have crashed around them. ER is even almost willing to admit that Dylan bones could be decomposing in the woods...a pretty horrific image for any mother to consider, but she wants the truth that badly. And MR just smirks and hedges and changes the subject.

DP said one thing that cannot be argued with, IMO; if MR is not guilty, then there is something seriously wrong with this man. Nothing in his reactions approaches any level of "normalcy" for the situation and I would trust that DP has had experience in dealing with plenty of people in crisis.

 

[OtherEyes]

My whole stomach is sick with all this... I need a break.

 

[cluciano63]

OT, WS is driving me insane today, and yesterday, so.....slow....

 

[Leader6518]

Being out of the house does not equal missing, IMO. What if the mail carrier's sighting is true? It would sure complicate things even more and give an entirely different timeframe for Dylan's disappearance. Wow.

How would LE go about dismissing these sightings? The jogger and this one, I mean?

I would imagine by identifying who it really was. That wouldn't be that hard to do in a small community.

 

[SuziQ]

Thank you for transcribing that part for me. I know all kids are different, but it's never taken more than 10 minutes to get my stepson up and going (normally it's right away, even on weekends). Two hours of trying to get him up? I would be worried something was wrong. I'm curious if ER ever had the same experiences?

ITA, and I got the impression it was real important to MR to sell us that. Just like the mail lady and the fishing pole he wants us all to believe. Taking all this in, I wouldn't be shocked to find out that Dylan did not wake up that last morning because he deceased. The mail lady and the fishing pole will be MR's explanation for Dylan being found in a body of water. He just will not let go of the mail lady and fishing pole.

 

[Ghostwheel]

I have the second day recorded. But, after seeing the way Cory was acting in the tease video I am not going to watch it. To me it was way over the top. No child should talk to his father that way especially since he does not have the best record himself. And on National t.v. Yea, Dr. Phil was trying to help this family big time. Not so much I think. But, we all knew what it was going to be so why is anyone surprised? jmo

I respectfully disagree that no child should talk to their father that way. Respect is not deserved just because someone is a biological parent. It is earned. I, personally, thought Cory handled himself well, but I respect your right to disagree.

We all knew nothing. You might have known or suspected something, but please do not speak for me. I got some big surprises.

 

[Kimster]

REMINDER: not everyone shares the same opinion about the show. Feel free to make your points but remain respectful to other members and don't expect them to change their mind. Agree to disagree is often the final conclusion.

 

[ScarlettScarpetta]

As far as Cory saying what he wants to, I agree but he should have a little class and say it in private. Maybe MR's other children have more control and better perception of what was going on. But, why would Cory exhibit control when he has no example to do so. And I am not just referring to his mother but dad also. I think the only winner on those shows was DP and his ratings.

jmo

My guess is that cory said in on the show because he is full of contempt of this man and how he has treated him. He may have known this was the only opportunity to say how he felt and get it out without getting slapped or attacked.

Cory is not the problem. His father is. Cory is another victim.

 

[Linda7NJ]

I have the second day recorded. But, after seeing the way Cory was acting in the tease video I am not going to watch it. To me it was way over the top. No child should talk to his father that way especially since he does not have the best record himself. And on National t.v. Yea, Dr. Phil was trying to help this family big time. Not so much I think. But, we all knew what it was going to be so why is anyone surprised? jmo

A decent father would never hear those words from a son. I'm quite certain Mark earned every bit of venom directed his way.

Dr Phil wants ratings and parents of missing children would kill for the exposure his show offers. It's a symbiotic relationship.


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[yupikgirl]

I'm a little behind, but watching the ustream video now. I am at azgrandmas part and wanted to say I am so so thankful to put a face to a name and what an amazing person she is....

 

[song22]

Found it.. Oh boy.. Just oh boy.

I really think that this is just some people messing with folks on the FMDR site. This sounds like a sick prank to me.

 

[cluciano63]

As long as LE continues to do their jobs and searchers like K9 Forensics are willing to do what they are doing...there is at least a chance Dylan will be found. If MR has the answers, he won't share them. Dylan will have to be found by other means.

If I had even a tiny hope that MR was "hiding" Dylan, it is gone. I think he might have cracked with Dr. Phil, if he is guilty and Dylan can be produced alive. Either MR knows nothing and really is the one person in DP's history of counseling, etc. to behave in such an abnormal manner as to confound even DP, or MR knows Dylan is dead and how he came to be so.

 

[Kamille]

Cory is not a child and MR is the least fatherly person I have ever seen. He can say what he needs to say to MR with my blessing.

I was a little taken back by MR's initial reaction to that. His stare down at CR and calling him disrespectful kind of jolted me. Kind of seemed like if he wasn't sitting there on that stage he would have taken a swing at him for saying that. How many kids say I hate you to a parent at some point? And most parents would understand what their other child was going through with a little brother missing and with him being the last person to see him. We've seen the exchanges between these two so it couldn't have been a big surprise to MR to hear CR lash out at him. But he still looked beyond po'd at it. Just a strange look in his eyes. Was Dylan being "disrespectful" that day?

MOO

 

[Kamille]

No there not, The person on the show was MR ex girlfriend of six months__what purpose she served being there is beyond me, other than her stating Dylan layed on the couch all week.

Would really like to know when this ex girlfriend stayed at the house for a week with MR and Dylan. Was it within the past 3 years? Is everything MR is saying relating to habits of a much younger Dylan?

MOO

 

[Kimster]

Now we're posting rumors? Seriously? :notgood:

This is Websleuths! Knock it off!

 

[Seajay]

I saw the 2nd show. After I heard about this show being taped and that MR was being asked to take a poly, I wondered how that was going to work, spending several hours in the hotseat on stage facing 4 people that hate him, how he was going to be calm enough to get an accurate reading on a polygraph test.

And apparently that was a problem. And it was a problem the next day and later on. How do you go through something like that and NOT have it affect you?? How do you calm down the adrenaline of those hours of being ganged up on by everyone that was once important in your life?

I had a feeling it was going to be like Jerry Springer. It pretty much was only someone didn't come out from back stage pregnant. To me it was an ambush. I could see it coming a mile away, not sure why MR didn't and even agreed to go on the show.

And for those who say he showed no emotion, he got teary eyed the next day when he talked about Cory screaming at him how he hated him. He showed emotion on that and to me, if he is that hurt over Cory saying those words to him, then he loves his son and if he loves his son, he loves his younger son who didn't say that to him so why would he harm him???

Cory stated awhile back that MR never harmed him or Dylan. He never got physical with them. If he never even hauled off and hit one of them then how could he get to murdering one of them?? None of them claimed during the show he harmed his younger two boys in the past.

Again, this is my opinion of what I see.

 

[Linda7NJ]

I saw the 2nd show. After I heard about this show being taped and that MR was being asked to take a poly, I wondered how that was going to work, spending several hours in the hotseat on stage facing 4 people that hate him, how he was going to be calm enough to get an accurate reading on a polygraph test.

And apparently that was a problem. And it was a problem the next day and later on. How do you go through something like that and NOT have it affect you?? How do you calm down the adrenaline of those hours of being ganged up on by everyone that was once important in your life?

I had a feeling it was going to be like Jerry Springer. It pretty much was only someone didn't come out from back stage pregnant. To me it was an ambush. I could see it coming a mile away, not sure why MR didn't and even agreed to go on the show.

And for those who say he showed no emotion, he got teary eyed the next day when he talked about Cory screaming at him how he hated him. He showed emotion on that and to me, if he is that hurt over Cory saying those words to him, then he loves his son and if he loves his son, he loves his younger son who didn't say that to him so why would he harm him???

Cory stated awhile back that MR never harmed him or Dylan. He never got physical with them. If he never even hauled off and hit one of them then how could he get to murdering one of them?? None of them claimed during the show he harmed his younger two boys in the past.

Again, this is my opinion of what I see.

You buck up and realize what's important and why you're there. IMO


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[katydid23]

Would really like to know when this ex girlfriend stayed at the house for a week with MR and Dylan. Was it within the past 3 years? Is everything MR is saying relating to habits of a much younger Dylan?

MOO

I am not positive, but I think it might have been in September when D was there last. The reason I say this is because there were posts and comments on various sites from the daughter of a girlfriend of Mark's, posted in December.

I felt sorry for the girl because she came out punching in Mark's defense, and told a lot of stories that her mother had been told. And we knew those were LIES. But this poor girl didn't know that at first. She believed that Mark had every bone in his face broken by a baseball bat. So these are the kinds of LIES that MR has been telling the few people who hung out with him. I have sympathy for the gf because she probably BELIEVES him.

 

[raine1212]

Here is the thread for NON Dr. Phil.. Just in case someone has not seen it

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=200076&page=9