Found Deceased CO - Gannon Stauch, 11, Colorado Springs, El Paso County, 27 Jan 2020 **ARREST** #43

[wyome]

All you lovely ladies are important. Don't let the haters bring you down!

No hate anywhere in this thread

 

[MtnMama]

Had there been video confirming his arrival home, we almost certainly would have heard about it in the affidavit.

They reached that conclusion, likely based on the blood evidence in Gannon’s bedroom. I can’t imagine them leaving that out, as it’s quite important.

BBM

I know this is accurate, but I have such a hard time thinking that there were no other cameras in that neighborhood that caught the truck returning that afternoon and can definitively say that Gannon returned with LS! Even though we only knew of RD's footage prior to the release of the AA, I was absolutely certain that other neighbors had footage that would be helpful. I guess not

 

[MtnMama]

I'm trying to remember in the PF trial and AA - I don't think we knew about the images of both PF and KB in front of the townhouse that day (from the AA) did we? Didn't we find that out during the trial when they started introducing all of the evidence? I can't recall exactly but if that was the case, there is a chance they didn't include everything in the AA, right? Just enough to nail her for the charges?
JMO

Now wait a minute @oviedo, your post gives me a little hope! So if they had additional key footage, they don't have to disclose it? It would definitely be part of discovery though, right? I'm assuming something like that can't just be a bombshell at the trial.

 

[MsBetsy]

All you lovely ladies are important. Don't let the haters bring you down!

I can't for the life of me figure out what this post means.

 

[JEM1975]

Yeah, I thought that she was notified on Friday before the murder. The affidavit also states that she was an assistant teacher so I'm not sure what that means, either. I've heard of teacher's assistant, teachers aide , or consultant teacher, (special ed) but not "assistant teacher."

Imo

If she got fired on Friday, I wonder if it's possible that GS wasn't really sick at all on Monday and if she kept him home as a cover for why she wasn't going to work?

 

[MsBetsy]

If she got fired on Friday, I wonder if it's possible that GS wasn't really sick at all on Monday and if she kept him home as a cover for why she wasn't going to work?

Yeah, I wondered about that too. I thought maybe she didn't want AS to know she had lost her job.

 

[Seattle1]

I'm still not convinced he exited the truck. The AA states the video was from several houses away and not clear enough to even positively identify Gannon (#'s 31& 32).
It seems they partially base the opinion he returned on the ADT report.

Does anyone have a home security system? Will dogs moving around set off motion sensors?

I think the majority security system motion detectors use passive infrared (PIR) motion detector technology. Our system uses pet-immune PIR sensors which are adjustable and ignore animals up to certain weight limits.

Relative to surveillance video -- many here are familiar with Kelsey Berreth case and remember how many times PF was recorded on neighbors surveillance entering her condo yet same surveillance never recorded him exiting. It happens.

MOO

 

[JEM1975]

Do we have a consensus here that she'd been planning to murder Gannon for a while? That she knew her and Al were over so this was like her psychopathic version of cutting up all of her soon to be ex's nice suits? Or that Gannon did something to set her off and it was a rage attack?

It's so hard to say because none of the choices make sense to any of us people who would never even consider killing our child. That being said, I think I'm leaning towards something bad happened on Sunday where she injured GS and knew she had gone too far and wasn't going to be able to just lie it away. My gut says she murdered him to save herself and in her own crazy head, she thought she was so smart she could outwit the investigators and get away with it. Too bad for you LS..... they had you from day one and you will never get away with what you did to this beautiful little boy who is our hero! Gman, your life mattered and will always matter to all who love you! Your light in the world will never be dimmed by the evil that exists because your light is so much brighter and you've shared it with all of us!

 

[lilithblue]

Now wait a minute @oviedo, your post gives me a little hope! So if they had additional key footage, they don't have to disclose it? It would definitely be part of discovery though, right? I'm assuming something like that can't just be a bombshell at the trial.

They don't have to disclose it in the arrest affidavit, no.

But the whole purpose of that document was probable cause to arrest Letecia. Their theory was that he went in that house, she killed him, and he never came back out alive again.

At the time, it was a no body case. They needed to prove he died. In order to prove that, they needed him to have died in that room where blood was found. Video evidence of him coming back and entering that house would have made this whole thing a whole lot easier. There was simply no reason to not include it, if it existed.

I'm not saying he didn't get out of that truck. I just don't see a reason they would not have included something that important to back up their theory.

 

[JDough]

Out of curiosity, what are the chances her attorney says they have to roll with this Eguardo thing throughout the trial? That's the statement she gave police on record, so isn't their best defense to embrace and own it?

I would assume her attorney knows she's guilty and crazy and won't plea out. Why not just stick with the facts your client made up, lose the case, and move on with your lawyering life?

This would be a very difficult defense, IMO. Unfortunately (for her), it's not the only statement she gave on record. The first statement given was that Gannon ran away. Eguardo was (supposedly) given the garage door code in order for him to repair the carpet while TS was "running errands". This absolutely does NOT work for 2 reasons: 1) The defense would be unable to provide video surveillance of Eguardo arriving and entering the garage. 2) Eguardo did not unarm the alarm system, or set-off any motion detectors. The AA discusses when the alarm system was set, and when it was disarmed upon their return. No mention of any activity in between.

 

[PaulaDC]

Thanks. I did know that but had forgotten! Still, there was blood with GS's DNA where the SUV was parked. And something reacted with Luminol in the SUV in several spots. But no reactions in the truck at all. It's just hard for me to see how that could happen except with the AA hypothesized sequence of events.
JMO

When she leaves with Gannon in the truck, where was her SUV? Is it in the neighbors surveillance tapes? Could she have all ready had her SUV waiting somewhere else and switched cars and left his body in the SUV and switched back to the truck to come back home?
Can a home security system detect dogs? It's just detecting movement correct? How about lights going on and off? Would that pick up as movement?

 

[MemPat]

Now wait a minute @oviedo, your post gives me a little hope! So if they had additional key footage, they don't have to disclose it? It would definitely be part of discovery though, right? I'm assuming something like that can't just be a bombshell at the trial.

There will probably be many bombshells for us but not so many for the defense.

However, more evidence can be revealed to the defense even as the trial progresses. (The paper towel hit list during the Frazee trial comes to mind.) T will surely engage in some oddball criminal enterprise to be reported by a "roommate" at the hoosegow (nod to Gordian Knot)!

There's also a chance we'll see another Affadavit with more charges. We know there will be page after page concerning that quick trip to Florida. (The 2nd one for Fotis Dulos was a doozy.....enough to send him barreling toward suicide, sure he was going to rot in jail. I expect there to be yet another for his paramour/accomplice.)

 

[Boxer]

It's so hard to say because none of the choices make sense to any of us people who would never even consider killing our child. That being said, I think I'm leaning towards something bad happened on Sunday where she injured GS and knew she had gone too far and wasn't going to be able to just lie it away. My gut says she murdered him to save herself and in her own crazy head, she thought she was so smart she could outwit the investigators and get away with it. Too bad for you LS..... they had you from day one and you will never get away with what you did to this beautiful little boy who is our hero! Gman, your life mattered and will always matter to all who love you! Your light in the world will never be dimmed by the evil that exists because your light is so much brighter and you've shared it with all of us!

Agree.
She seemed to think she could get a simple runaway story to pass muster, when it didn't she started throwing out. Every other scenario she had come up with.

 

[jvikes]

This would be a very difficult defense, IMO. Unfortunately (for her), it's not the only statement she gave on record. The first statement given was that Gannon ran away. Eguardo was (supposedly) given the garage door code in order for him to repair the carpet while TS was "running errands". This absolutely does NOT work for 2 reasons: 1) The defense would be unable to provide video surveillance of Eguardo arriving and entering the garage. 2) Eguardo did not unarm the alarm system, or set-off any motion detectors. The AA discusses when the alarm system was set, and when it was disarmed upon their return. No mention of any activity in between.

Exactly, it's a losing defense. Maybe wishful thinking, but I'm hoping her attorney can tell her we're going with this Eguardo thing because that's what you claimed happened. TS either needs to tell her attorney she lied to the police (opening up a convo with the attorney that hopefully leads to just pleading guilty), or they present something on TS's terms that would make her be found guilty but can't claim an unfair defense attorney.

 

[Seattle1]

When she leaves with Gannon in the truck, where was her SUV? Is it in the neighbors surveillance tapes? Could she have all ready had her SUV waiting somewhere else and switched cars and left his body in the SUV and switched back to the truck to come back home?
Can a home security system detect dogs? It's just detecting movement correct? How about lights going on and off? Would that pick up as movement?

In the surveillance video, vehicle(s) are seen parked in the driveway when LS backed the truck in the driveway both when she left with GS in the morning and when they returned mid-afternoon.

It seemed to me that the neighbor (and the surveillance camera) must reside facing the driver's side (of the truck) and why we don't have good camera angle of the passenger side or any of the vehicle(s) parked in the driveway (or if anybody got out of the truck on the passenger side). I think the SUV very well could have been parked in the driveway or the garage.

I believe the only time LS addressed her SUV not being at home is after GS murdered and when AS arrived home. LS was driving a rental and I think she told AS the SUV was parked at a school(?).

MOO

 

[catch_22]

I apologize if any of this has already been covered. I'm a few days behind, and trying to catch up.

I guess I am now in the minority that still believes that GS never came home from the shopping trip. I can't say for certain that he didn't return home, but I'm 99.7% certain that "the shadow" wasn't from him. I've argued this point at length previously, and really don't feel like getting into it again. I even found some new ammo today, but I digress (whatever that means).

Also, with the fake lie detector test, she submitted 3 questions. 2 of the questions were, "did you harm stepson?", "did you kill stepson?" We know the answers to these. The third question, "did stepson return home from shopping?" What are the odds that she would submit a question and answer that was truthful? Isn't that the point of a fake polygraph? To lie? Although, I know that this proves nothing.

And to the point of my post. I probably should have put this first because there are probably very few of you still reading, but it concerns paragraphs 53-55 in the AA. Again, this isn't proof of anything, and I may be interpreting it incorrectly. It is concerning AS's statement that the bed was usually up against the wall. The thing is, I believe that the "unusual" picture (with the bed away from the wall) was the one from LS's phone.

So at 8am, the bed was in the unusual position, and at 10pm it was in it's "normal" position. I realize that this also fits LE's theory. But my question is, when did the bed get pushed away from the wall? Had LS already been back there cleaning up blood before 8am? Or is there a totally innocent explanation as to why the bed was initially away from the wall?

JMO

 

[SwiftTiff]

Letecia shared, that SHE told LE about the Petco trips and even provided receipts for her purchases. I can't recall if it was the Leigh Egan or DWAP interview?
Because of this, I suspect her purchases were mundane and unrelated to Gannon's murder. The Petco stops were for another purpose, which in IMO, might have been to leave & pick-up Gannon's phone to avoid tracking.

Yes I’ve so wondered about those trips even more when they left out what she bought . Is there anything petco sells that could’ve used to....ugh well hurt him like pet medication or anything? Obviously she went twice which seems like it means something .

 

[SwiftTiff]

I apologize if any of this has already been covered. I'm a few days behind, and trying to catch up.

I guess I am now in the minority that still believes that GS never came home from the shopping trip. I can't say for certain that he didn't return home, but I'm 99.7% certain that "the shadow" wasn't from him. I've argued this point at length previously, and really don't feel like getting into it again. I even found some new ammo today, but I digress (whatever that means).

Also, with the fake lie detector test, she submitted 3 questions. 2 of the questions were, "did you harm stepson?", "did you kill stepson?" We know the answers to these. The third question, "did stepson return home from shopping?" What are the odds that she would submit a question and answer that was truthful? Isn't that the point of a fake polygraph? To lie? Although, I know that this proves nothing.

And to the point of my post. I probably should have put this first because there are probably very few of you still reading, but it concerns paragraphs 53-55 in the AA. Again, this isn't proof of anything, and I may be interpreting it incorrectly. It is concerning AS's statement that the bed was usually up against the wall. The thing is, I believe that the "unusual" picture (with the bed away from the wall) was the one from LS's phone.

So at 8am, the bed was in the unusual position, and at 10pm it was in it's "normal" position. I realize that this also fits LE's theory. But my question is, when did the bed get pushed away from the wall? Had LS already been back there cleaning up blood before 8am? Or is there a totally innocent explanation as to why the bed was initially away from the wall?

JMO

I also wonder this. I go back and forth it seems like a real possibility she ran out of time at the very least to clean up downstairs and we know that from texts, receipts , sending her out to play and saying she couldn’t see G bc he was asleep in her bed . I thought the mileage provided was from her own leased car and can’t get in to re-read it. There’s no way for me she left her phone at home unless it was very intentional. The pictures. Even G asking to play Zelda I think was T.

 

[catch_22]

Wasn't the initial report something like LE was in the backyard searching with flashlights, and a vehicle was pulled out of the garage? Or did this not happen on the day he went missing?

I bet LS was shatting herself when LE was searching the house and garage. I think in the least, the back of her suv was full of bloody evidence. I bet she was counting on LE taking her word for it, that she had thoroughly searched the home already.

Also, a lot of suv's have "cargo covers" that hide can hide what is in the cargo area. They are generally a flat panel at the height of the seatbacks. Many of them are removable or retractable. Also, tinted windows would require more effort to see what was inside.

JMO

 

[Boxer]

In the surveillance video, vehicle(s) are seen parked in the driveway when LS backed the truck in the driveway both when she left with GS in the morning and when they returned mid-afternoon.

It seemed to me that the neighbor (and the surveillance camera) must reside facing the driver's side (of the truck) and why we don't have good camera angle of the passenger side or any of the vehicle(s) parked in the driveway (or if anybody got out of the truck on the passenger side). I think the SUV very well could have been parked in the driveway or the garage.

I believe the only time LS addressed her SUV not being at home is after GS murdered and when AS arrived home. LS was driving a rental and I think she told AS the SUV was parked at a school(?).

MOO

MOO I just went over the RD video, (original in YT.)
MOO the Tiguan is the other car parked in the Stauch driveway. It was parked with the hatch toward the street, front end toward the garage.