Found Deceased CO - Gannon Stauch, 11, Colorado Springs, Lorson Ranch, El Paso County, 27 Jan 2020 *endangered* #21

[Fireflize]

I was initially surprised she would like the photo. Her expression looks So Annoyed. “The eyes are the window to the soul” the pout is not a happy one. Compare to his bio mom’s photos.

Doubt that she is even aware of how others see her.

 

[lucidtx]

It has led them very close to where he is. Keep in mind that she wandered around over a very large area. And then, it snowed (it snowed on Tuesday, right?)

Isn't it obvious that they've known, for a couple of weeks, more or less where to search? No county spends all that money and person hours randomly looking for evidence/a body. That's what those probes were for. That's why they were being gentle with the snow and the search.

They know where she stopped, of course. And where she slowed down. (If she really had her Apple Watch, which I believe she did). Where she walked. That explains SO much about the nature of the search (going behind that one gate, up on the mound, having 2-3 other searches nearby). It explains the next search.

Gannon is likely under snow. They will find him, but they are going to need luck, and lots of searching (but after the Spring thaw, it will be easier).

Oddly, TS finally did something edging toward "the right thing." She admitted she was up there in that area where they're searching, wandering around and that Gannon was with her (sick but with her). She continues to lie about her return to the house, but I guess that's the panic that comes from realizing that she's about to face the music.

We keep talking about location data leading them to the area, and I do think that very well could be a major factor in where they've searched, but I really think they have more than that.

As you said, it's a very intensive search of a specific area, and by her own account she traveled a large distance that day. I would expect a coarser search of more locations if they were working off location data alone. Instead, they've poured nearly all of their resources into probing and sifting that one specific chunk of land off 105.

 

[Seajay]

She looks 40ish to me, JMO. I’m 30ish and I’ve never in my life done the DuckFace. I’m a very old soul though ha!

I have always thought the duck face was ridiculous and a sad attempt on the part of the subject to look cute or interesting or sexy or something yet they failed miserably. IMO

 

[SleuthBee]

IMO if I had viewed my surveillance and saw something worth reporting such as RD did, I'd have given it to police only. Unless instructed otherwise by them of course. When local news tried to talk to me about a murder in my area, I told them if I had anything useful to say, I'd tell the detectives not them.

I agree. However, Albert needed to see the video, but in the company of LE. Albert knows her better than any of us, and his reaction to the video was enough to convince me of TS's guilt.

 

[Momof4RN]

Thanks Moms of 4, thought it might be a G tube

Most gtubes now are a button with detachable catheter. Still looks to long to be a gtube to me and far too high up from where the location would be which is lower left abdomen. And a boy his age would likely conceal that under his clothing.
I’m not verified so this all my opinion and experience and doesn’t look like one i’ve ever seen.

 

[kaen]

Gannon Stauch poses with stepmother Letecia in last known photo of missing Colorado boy


So I'm in health care...whats that plastic looking tubing around Gannon's hand? Is the RN on here? any other health care peeps

I think it is a water hydration backpack mouthpiece.

 

[Seajay]

Hey websleuths! First post. Super impressed with your board. Heard about it before but only saw mentioned on Reddit recently that you are only allowed to discuss verified fact sources and that is so interesting to me. I've been following these threads for a bit and decided to finally join. Completely captivated by this case.

Do we think TS has voluntarily given LE access to her icloud and devices? Does Al have the power to do that as someone that's probably on all the accounts? Can LE get warrants for things like this even if there's not a suspect? Biggest questions I have right now after the new crime online interview.

Welcome to Websleuths. Glad to have you here. Please read what the rules are here, what is allowed and what is not allowed. Or maybe you already did. Thank you. I look forward to posting with you.

 

[kkdj]

I think LE will indeed check if there was a wreck, and it's my hunch there was a wreck, which will collaborate any other info that have about her whereabouts that day.

If there was no wreck, that is evidence she is a liar.

Either way, wreck or not, LE will check and it won't be hard for them to confirm.

jmo

Right. But did she check the traffic report before she headed out to know this?

 

[MsBetsy]

I have always thought the duck face was ridiculous and a sad attempt on the part of the subject to look cute or interesting or sexy or something yet they failed miserably. IMO

I finally figured out what everyone is talking about! I thought it was referring to the pictures kids put on Instagram with the noses and ears or whiskers on them like my daughter and her friends do!

I've been looking for this picture now for weeks. No wonder I couldn't find it.

I didn't know it was called a duck face, but back in high school we used to pose like that because we thought it looked 'cool.' Maybe that's why she does it.

 

[susiQ]

Does she have a black SUV? I don't think it was LE who leaked the video, I think it was obtained from the neighbor by a couple of reporters. LE said from the beginning that anyone they want to talk to that may have information is a POI, but it does seem unusual that they haven't said she is a suspect. I'm not sure what is holding them back. TS herself claims they are 'chasing' her instead of looking for Gannon. I just don't get it.

Imo

Well, I like to look at it this way: she’s not a POI, but she has also NOT been cleared. In 30 plus days of investigation and searches, there’s nothing that tells investigators that she is not a suspect OR ELSE they would have said, “she’s NOT a suspect!” It’s not what they’re sayin’, it’s what they’re NOT saying!!
JMHO

 

[Ontario Mom]

We keep talking about location data leading them to the area, and I do think that very well could be a major factor in where they've searched, but I really think they have more than that.

As you said, it's a very intensive search of a specific area, and by her own account she traveled a large distance that day. I would expect a coarser search of more locations if they were working off location data alone. Instead, they've poured nearly all of their resources into probing and sifting that one specific chunk of land off 105.

Assuming they're using a variety of cell/google location/gps/apple watch data (and maybe all together paint a unique but matching picture?)
I think it's not so much where she traveled to, or how far she traveled, as much as it's likely when she stopped traveling and for how long, she was not traveling.
Especially if those lull times were particularly longer than a moment or two, and they were in remote locations with zero public services, like gas stations or convenience stores. Not sure about apple but google location also lists how long you were at a certain location - if you have it enabled, and people who use maps/gps/traffic apps on their phone and not their vehicle, will have to have location turned on.
Oh, and they can learn about a traffic accident and suggested detours posted by other users on the app.
Hmm...

 

[Seajay]

I agree. I don't need two wives, especially one attached to my wrist.

I Hear ya. I am not getting a Fitbit or a Apple Watch anytime soon. I just found out here that my car’s many mini computers already know if I’m stopping off for a cheeseburger and fries before going to my WW meeting.

 

[10ofRods]

I understand LE not naming a POI but I don't understand why they did not report his last sighting was in the red vehicle, if that is the case.
That is vital information for SAR. For local police who have access to traffic cams for apb's...

Local police are LE. They know to be on the look out. We don't know where TS went and what intersections she stopped at - but LE knows. SAR doesn't need to know. SAR doesn't usually know. They are asked to focus on a search in a particular area. Local LE isn't tasked with conducting searches, just with keeping an eye out. Which I am sure they are all doing and have done.

If every person associated with a search was given sensitive information (how does LE know where to search? that's sensitive and will be an issue for a jury) we'd have way more leaks.

LE doesn't know for sure which of the 3-4 vehicles involved here is the "last seen" vehicle, but they do know which adult was last responsible for Gannon's well-being and welfare. They also know that person's movements. Why would they muddy the waters by asking for "every red truck" (or "black truck") to go out to the public? I'm not getting how that would do more than just get lots of random tips. They don't need random tips in this case.

 

[kittythehare]

#FindGannon

 

[MsMarple]

The duck face is cringe worthy. I give youngsters a pass but an adult? NO. I don't think many use it these days. She clearly missed the memo.

By contrast, the picture further down showing Gannon with his bio mom LH is beautiful. No duck lips necessary. He clearly loves her.
Gannon Stauch poses with stepmother Letecia in last known photo of missing Colorado boy

 

[Justmythough]

I cannot bring myself to look at that photo. It makes me all ragey inside.

To me it looks like a drinking tube attached to one of those water bladders that hiking backpacks have

 

[cluciano63]

We will.

We said the same thing about Kelsey Berreth when PF killed her.

Not only do we know everything, we have video screen shots of each step. We even have the last spoken words Kelsey cried out.

There will be justice served for Gannon and Dan the Man is on it!!!

But there was an (eventually) cooperating witness to testify who had seen almost everything and helped with some of it...I do not think we will have that here. I feel that only one person knows what happened to Gannon.

 

[B in TN]

Most gtubes now are a button with detachable catheter. Still looks to long to be a gtube to me and far too high up from where the location would be which is lower left abdomen. And a boy his age would likely conceal that under his clothing.
I’m not verified so this all my opinion and experience and doesn’t look like one i’ve ever seen.

thanks again, Happy Year of the Nurse!

 

[10ofRods]

Assuming they're using a variety of cell/google location/gps/apple watch data (and maybe all together paint a unique but matching picture?)
I think it's not so much where she traveled to, or how far she traveled, as much as it's likely when she stopped traveling and for how long, she was not traveling.
Especially if those lull times were particularly longer than a moment or two, and they were in remote locations with zero public services, like gas stations or convenience stores. Not sure about apple but google location also lists how long you were at a certain location - if you have it enabled, and people who use maps/gps/traffic apps on their phone and not their vehicle, will have to have location turned on.
Oh, and they can learn about a traffic accident and suggested detours posted by other users on the app.
Hmm...

Exactly. And now I'm thinking they're looking at even brief stops. Your point about the accident is excellent. Her watch could have alerted her, if she had certain apps. If she was panicked and desperate, then every single stop is important.

Apple data shows exactly how long you stopped somewhere, whether driving or walking. It's not perfect (if I tell it I'm walking, it assumes I'm not lying until it senses that my speed is impossible, then it politely asks what I'm up to). It has lots of data.

 

[Seajay]

I finally figured out what everyone is talking about! I thought it was referring to the pictures kids put on Instagram with the noses and ears or whiskers on them like my daughter and her friends do!

I've been looking for this picture now for weeks. No wonder I couldn't find it.

I didn't know it was called a duck face, but back in high school we used to pose like that because we thought it looked 'cool.' Maybe that's why she does it.

LOL Yup, the pouty lips to make her look alluring and sexy. It always annoyed me to see it because it doesn’t look natural, it looks like the subject is showing off. Of course, I don’t take selfies at all so........