Found Deceased CO - Gannon Stauch, 11, Colorado Springs, Lorson Ranch, El Paso County, 27 Jan 2020 *endangered* #23

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  • #621
I should have clarified, its my assumption or opinion that getting kicked out coincided with discovery of the video based on AS reaction is most logical.
I think TS was already out of the house when AS called LE about the video evidence. If I remember correctly, her interview was on a Friday and the following Sunday was when it was called in. I don't recall which day it was when Fox showed the video and LE was at the house carrying out evidence, but it was soon after that.

Imo
 
  • #622
I continue to be surprised at the gall of this woman to not be able to just shut up! A child is missing, he is gone, and all she can do is try to prove her innocence, try to muddy the water, try to cause drama, what the heck is wrong with her!!! ugh
If only she had kept her mouth shut and feigned some sort of care for her missing stepson I would be giving her all the empathy and benefit of the doubt! What an absolute moron!
 
  • #623
MOO

I've seen a photo on-line of an LE/MCL tech taking a photograph of a house front that is across the street from the Stauch house, possibly as an evidence piece to establish the location of a neighbor's surveillance camera from which LE may have obtained relevant video recording(s).

I know the angle of the photo the tech was taking because behind him in the background was an MCL van parked on the Stauch house side of the street, and on the other side of the street across from the van was the crashed-in-front vehicle parked along the curb (this vehicle can be seen in RD's surveillance video).

I've been trying to locate the photo of that scene but so far, no luck. I didn't realize the content of the photo when I saw it early today but then realized what is was after I recalled the crashed-in-front vehicle in the background. By that time I had already closed that browser tab and have not yet been able to find that website. Still looking....

MOO

I’m still playing catch-up but knew what you were talking about when I saw post.
 

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  • #624
I do not think Gannon was ever in the rental car...jmo
 
  • #625
Right now, I personally don’t see a scenario where she came home with his body, then called LE to report him missing a few hours later, then had the dilemma of disposing of his body with LE swarming. Or that she left his body “somewhere” then went back to move it the next day. You would also be dealing with a body after 15 + hours (estimated). That’s a whole other stomach turning challenge.

I’m most intrigued by her statement that she left her phone at home on 27 Jan during her shopping trip with an ill Gannon. Then admitting to taking backroads and getting lost. For me this is the crucial window of where was Gannon & what state was he in?

The rental car is very interesting. I could see it being used to dispose of evidence the next day, like literally tossing items out the window. OR maybe even driving past where she last seen him & left his body. This is not uncommon (IMO).

I also think she needed to sell the runaway story and could have absolutely told a tale of a unreasonable child who overreacted about something small. He didn’t come home, he must be afraid of getting in trouble. Enter the weird rental car.

Whenever I think of stepmom, I imagine her saying “but wait, there’s more!”.

All my scattered opinion...

May depend on personality. Certainly, perps are known to return to the scene of the crime. But depends if she was a “one and done” type or whether she is the type that over-analyzes everything in her mind and spirals and thinks of reasons to go back to double check or fix.
 
  • #626
It was Colorado Springs airport
 

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Police arrived sometime after 10pm on the night she reported him missing.
When tey arrived they removed a white vW from garage, daughter's car.
we do not know where AS truck was parked at that point.
We do not have an account of her movements for the remainder of that night.
First thing next morning she decides to rent a car and she drives AS truck to airport and leaves it there.
Again, truck has been removed from sight.
She uses the craziest of excuses to hire a rental though as other posters have mentioned she states she has informed LE from the first day about an abduction possibility.
so she drives AS home. In the rental.
That brings 3 cars to the home, if the smashed car is not theirs.

Perhaps she just HAD to get it away.
Because it contained incriminating evidence.
I do not know when LE took that vehicle though I presume they did.
I cannot imagine what was in the vehicle that needed to be hidden from both AS and LE..
Something, maybe, just speculating from ashes of bones here.

what we don't know is when and how she managed to make it 'clean' again or even if she did...
JMO imo moo etc
I'm almost positive that Leigh said in the chat here yesterday that TS drove her own car to the airport and to pick up the rental??
Have I got that wrong??
 
  • #629
BBM
I don't think we found out about the video the moment it was discovered. But why would RD say he found it Sat when he backtracked to earlier parts of the day than he had looked at earlier in the week? If he really found it many many days earlier? Are we now supposing the release of the video was orchestrated by LE (who said they didn't want it released) and further LE asked RD to say he found it Sat when that wasn't true?
Seems complicated.
JMO

Can you give us sources for any of this? I'm just not finding any MSM where RD says which day he found the video.

I believe that the whole neighborhood was shocked and very involved starting on Tuesday. I believe that AS personally went door to door, asking for help on Wednesday, at which point neighbors began to truly review their video. I think it was Thursday or Friday when LE joined in, asking neighbors to review video because (as LE explicitly states) some video might not be available if the time interval was more than 7 days. I know that I would wait until my first available day off to go through the HUNDREDS of clips that our system records daily. They are organized by time, of course. LE asked people to review their video from Monday, the 27th, from 3-4 pm. Many people have more than one camera. So they'd review each camera's video for that 1 hour. People tend to let the video keep running or to review past the end point requested, but once started, people don't immediately think to go back earlier in the day.

Some time between Wednesday morning and Friday (when TS gives her first interview), I believe TS was asked to leave the family home. I believe AS saw more than one neighbor's video in that interval, and obviously, had looked at his own Ring cam many times. I think TS was asked to leave either by Wednesday night or Thursday night, but certainly by Friday morning. Not sure if AS had RD's video by then. I see no MSM mention of exactly when RD reviewed the video or shared it with AS.
 
  • #630
It was Colorado Springs airport

Thanks for this Murphy. I believe it was also returned to Colorado Springs because the redaction of the return does not include the "S" in "US" and it appears the "S" is in about the same location as in the pick-up address. How's that for scientific? :D
 
  • #631
I found the photo!

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The Stauch house is to the left, determined by location of the crashed-in-front vehicle seen in the background. That vehicle is on the other side of and farther down the street from the Stauch house. The crime lab tech is taking a photo of a house across the street from the Stauch house, maybe to establish the location of a surveillance camera.

MOO

I feel really bad & please, no offense but only because I saw other angles... the Stauch house is to the right and he is photographing a street view.
 
  • #632
Right now, I personally don’t see a scenario where she came home with his body, then called LE to report him missing a few hours later, then had the dilemma of disposing of his body with LE swarming. Or that she left his body “somewhere” then went back to move it the next day. You would also be dealing with a body after 15 + hours (estimated). That’s a whole other stomach turning challenge.

I’m most intrigued by her statement that she left her phone at home on 27 Jan during her shopping trip with an ill Gannon. Then admitting to taking backroads and getting lost. For me this is the crucial window of where was Gannon & what state was he in?

The rental car is very interesting. I could see it being used to dispose of evidence the next day, like literally tossing items out the window. OR maybe even driving past where she last seen him & left his body. This is not uncommon (IMO).

I also think she needed to sell the runaway story and could have absolutely told a tale of a unreasonable child who overreacted about something small. He didn’t come home, he must be afraid of getting in trouble. Enter the weird rental car.

Whenever I think of stepmom, I imagine her saying “but wait, there’s more!”.

All my scattered opinion...

Agreed! And I don't see someone like her driving around for long -- or at all -- with a body in the car/truck. (And certainly not her own car.) And I'm not sure he was dead yet when she left him wherever she did.
 
  • #633
I am torn about it. Do you think any evidence was in the car?
I feel that there was no benevolent reason for renting the car. That leaves malevolent reasons, what exactly we can't know.
 
  • #634
I'm almost positive that Leigh said in the chat here yesterday that TS drove her own car to the airport and to pick up the rental??
Have I got that wrong??
That's right
 
  • #635
Oh my goodness... live and learn.... i always thought his name is Cousin Ed, but it is Cousin It...:eek::eek::eek:
There was a cousin Eddie, too.
 
  • #636
I agree both are possible too. I think the emphasis on the car impounded came about when people began to reference it as a fact and base things in the timeline on it. Then when others went to look for it, there had never been any confirmation the rental car was impounded. Guessing LE would’ve run her credit card charges so, if she paid that way, they at least knew she rented one. Hopefully in everything else that was going on, they did get a chance to get over there and search it and it wasn’t like half way across the country with another renter by then!
Huh. I feel a little slow, but it never occurred to me the car could’ve been rented out or at a different location by the time LE came to look for it.
 
  • #637
Here’s the initial report: EPCSheriff on Twitter

Here is where MSM says that TS is the one who said the boy in the surveillance wasn’t him:

“An initial report that the boy was last seen at the 🤬🤬🤬 & Go on Mesa Ridge Parkway near Fountain was incorrect, according to the Sheriff's Office. Upon reviewing surveillance footage the day after he was reported missing, Gannon's stepmother said the boy suspected to be Gannon was not him, according to law enforcement officials”

Gannon Stauch: What we know two weeks since the 11-year-old went missing from Colorado Springs home
A few articles originally reported 1/28/2020:

Information received during an interview with the Stauch’s stepmother and other information lead deputies to believe he’s a runaway instead of a missing person, Mynatt said. The department is unaware of additional risk factors aside from age, she said.

“That’s really our only concern, that he’s so young,” Mynatt said. “It’s cold outside, it’s going to start getting late here soon. We want to find him, get him home and put him in a safe environment.”
https://www.outtherecolorado.com/search-underway-for-missing-colorado-boy/


"The reporting party, who was Gannon's stepmom. called 911 to report Gannon was last seen by her between 3:15 - 4pm on January 27 to go to a friend's house. Information received during this call guided the call taker to type code this call as a runaway. Gannon's information was entered into the National Crime Information Center (NCIC) and the Colorado Crime Information Center (CCIC) approximately 30 minutes after the initial call as a runaway."
Search for Gannon resumes in northern El Paso County


News5 asked about Gannon being reported originally as a runaway rather than a missing person, and the Sheriff's Office said they have to work off of what the person calling 911 tells them in that moment.

"At the time the call was made, the reporting party stated that he was a runaway, he did not return from a friend's home, and so it was call typed as a runaway case," said El Paso County Sheriff's Office spokesperson Jacqueline Kirby.
Search for Gannon resumes in northern El Paso County
 
  • #638
I'm almost positive that Leigh said in the chat here yesterday that TS drove her own car to the airport and to pick up the rental??
Have I got that wrong??
You’ve got that right in my book.
 
  • #639
Just my opinion.
I think she got the rental car because whatever happened took place in the truck. Maybe her anxiety was AS would know something was off In the truck so she got a rental instead and made up a story to go along with her run away theory “he won’t see us coming when we go look for him”.

Subconscious paranoia because she knows what happened. I hope she sees his face everywhere she goes and it haunts her. But that would require a conscience I guess.
 
  • #640
Duplicate.
 
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