CO - Gannon Stauch, 11, found deceased, Colorado Springs, El Paso County, 27 Jan 2020 *Arrest* #61

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That's the reason I'm not transcribing that stuff, except to say she's talking about them.

MOO
Appreciate it, and all your wonderful work!
 
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The Petco thing is a "uh ho" to her. Because she is making up lies about it.
That tells me Petco was a big deal situation!
IMO the petco trip was when she went to scout out where to hide his body. That means premeditation. I hated to type that but i now feel that way.
 
  • #304
Witness says he thinks the secret identities/WitSec thing was "her giving me a task she thinks we cannot meet, so she wouldn't have to talk to me about anything."

Back to interview. Admits she told AS a bunch of garbage on the phone call out of anger for not getting his support.

Pause for sidebar.

Play again.

Says she only did it because she was 'hurt' and did it because the calls were being recorded.

Witness agrees that her misleading was very calculated and focussed on herself and not a missing child.

Play.

Witness asks her about mental health. LS says she has anxiety and takes Lorazepam and has never seen counsellors. Claims she is eight weeks pregnant. Confirms she was of sound mind when she was talking to AS on the phone. "I just wanted him to know, I was taking care of our kids for SO LONG..."

Pause.

Witness asked about mental health because the DA asked that he do so.

Asked about pathway to violence, talking about the grievances on the phone calls, about her being the caretaker.

Play.
BBM- 8 weeks Pregnant when she was arrested ?!?!?!?! OMG
This monster can sure spin the lies, just left and right an all over the place on a whim.

My head hurts.

I have always liked and respected Agent Jonny Grusing, but he just went to the top of my list !!
The way he controlled himself, and kept the interview on track had to have been a challenge.

Thanks again to everyone posting and sharing trial and photos ..

#Justice4Gannon
 
  • #305
Yep, a pregnant lady, not really pregnant, a fake pregnant lady, with a bunch of money in the thing that makes her look pregnant, gets in her car. Letecia asks what that'd would mean. Albert says maybe she robbed a bank? Maybe. Pregnant lady with cash in her belly. Makes her walk into Petco, forces her.
WTF?
 
  • #306
I hate the way she talks about his digestion issues. I know it’s a part of the case, so we keep hearing about it, but it feels so dehumanising towards him.
I hope that Gannon's parents know, deep in their hearts, T is only succeeding in dehumanizing herself.

We're on Gannon's side. All of us.

Jmo
 
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"Boxcutter" has been brought up by T too many times, it's significant.

ETA; Dr. Susan Ignacio who helped perform the autopsy on Gannon Stauch in Florida was the first witness on the day. She says Gannon suffered 18 sharp force injuries, 4 blunt force injuries, and one bullet wound.
But, I'll add, if there was a boxcutter used in his killing, it wasn't the only sharp weapon.

The wound to his shoulder joint was four inches deep.

She has also, at times, mentioned a knife. I think that's significant.

I'd also point back to her talking about cutting the carpet, I think, in the CS interview? Where she mentioned the boxcutter wasn't cutting the carpet deep enough, so she had to get a 'stronger object'. (paraphrasing, I don't have my notes in front of me for that day.)

MOO
 
  • #308
No, just backhanding them in the face.
Along with burning, stabbing, bludgeoning and shooting when the backhand to the face failed to achieve the desired results.
LS must be quite proud of her no spanking stance on parenting. :rolleyes:
JMO but she is a nasty piece of work and hell is too good for her.
 
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IMO the petco trip was when she went to scout out where to hide his body. That means premeditation. I hated to type that but i now feel that way.
I agree. I also think Gannon was ill or hurt enough and that's why he is lying down in the back seat.
I also think the fire was created to cover what ever she did to Gannon to cause him to bleed there.
A distraction.
I really don't believe he even had any bowel issues that day either.
 
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Have to love Judge Werner: defense tries to strike Grusing as a witness because he's, well, just too good and the jury is holding on to his every word. Werner responds by instructing Grusing to no longer use the phrase "pathway of violence" in his testimony. :D

And who is not crushin on Johnny Grusing!

MOO
 
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Did I also hear her say that at one point after the fire that all four of them were upstairs in the room together? Then Gannon went into the other room? (That might not be what she said)
The jury have already heard Harley testify that she didn't see Gannon that night.
And can't forget that LS allegedly made HH go with her downstairs to say goodnight to Gannon, later when HH got home from work.
 
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The prosecution then played portions of Grusing's interrogation of Stauch at the Myrtle Beach police department. He informed her that she was being arrested for murder. He gives her a sheet with listing her Miranda rights and has her sign and initial it.

So, Gannon was murdered, she asked. Grusing explained they can't have that conversation unless she's advised of her rights. Stauch says she has an attorney but the information is in her phone.

Letecia agrees to speak with Grusing. During the conversation tells him Gannon is alive and I can help you but I'm going to need someone who is going to help me. She said she needs protection for her family. He asks her how she knows Gannon is alive.

Letecia replies that she can't say 100 percent, but it leads back to being in the wrong place at the wrong time. Grusing explains that it's a crime to lie to investigators under federal law.

Later in the recording, Letecia explains how she knew that her calls with Al were being recorded. The things she said to him were out of anger, was hurt by him not wanting to work together.



 
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I feel like I'm alone in being the only one who doesn't see her as trying to shame Gannon in any way about his digestive issues. <modsnip> How hurtful and unhelpful that must be to those who suffer from conditions like that. The ONLY thing that she seems to have done ok with until this murder is to have coped with it, and with Gannon's needs in that respect. She's using it as an incidental part of all her many 'alibis' for the time period in which the murder took place, but that's different from 'shaming' him.
 
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  • #317
It pains me to say it, but the defence had a point here, I think. I was a little bit concerned myself to hear this 'pathway to evil' theory coming up. It tends to imply that she's already been found guilty.
I disagree. FBI/BAU has long used the term pathway of violence to explain the behavior of a perp from conception to implementing the plan and acting on their grievance. IMO, this is why Judge Werner instructed Grusing to cease using the term "pathway of violence" since he was not previously qualified to testify as an expert in behavioral profiling. JMO
 
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Have to love Judge Werner: defense tries to strike Grusing as a witness because he's, well, just too good and the jury is holding on to his every word. Werner responds by instructing Grusing to no longer use the phrase "pathway of violence" in his testimony. :D

And who is not crushin on Johnny Grusing!

MOO
I’ve watched his testimony in the Redwine trial over and over!
( Law & Crime YouTube)
 
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Let me try this again, see if I can't drive it home.

Yes, I think T was engaged in a pattern of good cop, bad cop -- and for a very long time. Step-parents do that sometimes. Heck, birth parents do that sometimes. It's not good. But what makes this bad and exceptionally bad is that T has engineered the precipitating events.

A more normal scenario -- you (child) broke the remote. We'll (good cop and grateful child) replace it. We won't tell Daddy ( bad guy).

Still bad parenting. Creates triangulation. Undermines parental authority. Teaches dishonesty and secret-keeping. But tame compared to this:

T sets Gannon up to be in trouble for something he didn't do (like we saw in the candle video), tattles to Al, then has a hissy fit of her own, forcing Al to choose between his maybe-but-not-sure-naughty son or his very-hard-to-live-with new wife. Al perhaps tries to keep the peace, because he wasn't there. He said, she said. Child has no defense. (Can't prove a negative, frustration might looks like obstinance, refusal to admit to wrong-doing becomes an issue, but it's all nonsense because T invented a drama that doesn't exist.) Then T can go behind Al's back to give the Switch back. "Good parent." So much crazy-making. So much head-gaming.

But effective. IMO T had already set Gannon up to be the one who needed help. And it used to be The Family vs. LH. Now it was The Family vs Gannon. As if he was the problem. T created division where there wasn't any! In order to secure her position. Dastardly.

You can hear it in her interviews. They'll come together as a Family. Now that Gannon is gone. (Al is clear-- Gannon is the Family. Without Gannon, there is no Family.)

And in all her T tales, she tells the one truth: listen to me. It doesn't matter what story I'm telling, I just need you to believe that it wasn't me.

IMO T thought Al would come home, people would search for Gannon, not find him. Cops would look everywhere but at home, eventually give up, I suppose she imagined.
And she'd have her American dream. Al to herself. Easy L to bolster her good mom image and two dogs to round out the perfect family.

Clueless wretch.
 
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