CO - Gannon Stauch, 11, found deceased, Colorado Springs, El Paso County, 27 Jan 2020 *Arrest* #61

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  • #641
She may well have just shut down at that point.
Al Grusing is awesome to watch and I believe he was chosen to do that interview because he can usually get someone to talk. I think LS will go to her grave denying everything. That is the reason I would like to see her locked in a cell alone and out of general population. She lies constantly and I think she would be a real detriment and threat to others. Making her angry wouldn’t work with her either. She has convinced herself that she is above and beyond others.
 
  • #642
Absolutely. She should be shut up forever.
She's one of those exceptions that exist to make me realise that moral standpoints are flexible and humans can hold opposing viewpoints at the same time. I think solitary, as a practice, is inhumane. But I also know that a room with four walls and only herself for company forever might be the reallest punishment for her outside the death penalty. So she's making me sit with my own cognitive dissonance, because I want her to suffer, even though I consider myself a pacifist. She, as a person defines herself by how she can manipulate others. Without someone to reflect back her own wants, does she even exist?

I don't believe LS is in any way 'insane' and not responsible for Gannon's death. But I also think that she is so reliant on others to sustain a sense of self, a stint in solitary may well cause her to have some kind of break that sends her to an institution in the future anyway.

That, or she will be completely satisfied with only herself and perfectly happy. It could go either way.

MOO
 
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I think he made a small mistake in his oral evidence too. He described how he was bringing up Quincy Brown again to her because the injuries she'd talked about in the Tales of Quincy Brown were the closest to those revealed in the autopsy. However, the body hadn't yet been found (I expect he meant only to say that the Quincy Brown series of injuries were the most extensive ones)..
I think this may have been one reason for Mr Allan asking him later to clarify the dates of the interview and then the finding of the body. It got the defence lawyers having a bit of a discussion.
Which one was a real person ? Was it Quincy Brown ? What would have been great is to bring him in and put in a room with her ! She would crap her pants !
 
  • #645
They should put all the clothes she's been wearing in a vat of boiling water and throw her in it, too. The grease from her hair is enough to make anybody sick.
 
  • #646
Al Grusing is awesome to watch and I believe he was chosen to do that interview because he can usually get someone to talk. I think LS will go to her grave denying everything. That is the reason I would like to see her locked in a cell alone and out of general population. She lies constantly and I think she would be a real detriment and threat to others. Making her angry wouldn’t work with her either. She has convinced herself that she is above and beyond others.
If Leticia’s placed in the general population, she may try to antagonize a prisoner or two but she’ll meet her match. I worked with female ex-cons in a halfway house. Most of them could easily put the hurt to her.
 
  • #647
Here’s something to erase the sight of her in the Courtroom and the sound of her lies.

This is after Special Agent Jonny is done with her:

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  • #648
If Leticia’s placed in the general population, she may try to antagonize a prisoner or two but she’ll meet her match. I worked with female ex-cons in a halfway house. Most of them could easily put the hurt to her.
I'd be more worried about her hurting some other inmate due to some perceived slight. I'm thinking of the prisoner transport video, here. I think she'd shank somebody and smile about it, and just claim that it was the victim's fault.

MOO
 
  • #649
I was called away about an hour before the end of the day but I think I'm glad, since the non-stop gaslighting was making me want to break something.

I'm glad for a Tee-free weekend. Wowzers is she ever vile.
 
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Perhaps she zip tied his ankles (loose enough to walk a bit but not slip out of) so he couldn't escape when he was left alone in the truck.
I've been following this case and the evidence since day 1 and I don't recall any mention of zip ties seen in the home, purchased, and/or recovered --anywhere! However, we know from Gannon's autopsy that he was indeed drugged. MOO
 
  • #652
what a difference a day makes....
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Different expression and clothing, but she's still a monster in human skin in both pictures.

The most wonderful people in the world can have no physical beauty, and the vilest specimens can be stunning on the surface. The opposite can also be true. Most people are middlingly generally human both in appearance and behaviour.

However 'ugly' or 'pretty' the picture of her, she's still exactly the same, inside. And no clothing or make-up or smile can fix that.

MOO
 
  • #653
I've been following this case and the evidence since day 1 and I don't recall any mention of zip ties seen in the home, purchased, and/or recovered --anywhere! However, we know from Gannon's autopsy that he was indeed drugged. MOO
Also, in video of GS walking out to the truck, he drops something. She quickly grabs it and tosses it in the truck. From there he climbs into the backseat. No zipties connecting his feet.
 
  • #654
Just a bit of my mad humor:

While watching the trial today on RA's feed, I once in awhile would turn on the live chat that he has going alongside. It can be overwhelming at times, with alot of nonsense, but very often it can have some quite humorous statements. I thought of one of them tonight, after eating my supper. We learned today through trial, from T's own mouth..that she doesn't like to cook, and prefers to order through grub hub, or get carry out.

One quick comment seen was, " Yeah T's days of ordering out are over. She's gonna want Spaghetti with Marinara Sauce, but she's gonna get mushy pasta with ketchup." HA HA HA !!!!
 
  • #655
She's one of those exceptions that exist to make me realise that moral standpoints are flexible and humans can hold opposing viewpoints at the same time. I think solitary, as a practice, is inhumane. But I also know that a room with four walls and only herself for company forever might be the reallest punishment for her outside the death penalty. So she's making me sit with my own cognitive dissonance, because I want her to suffer, even though I consider myself a pacifist. She, as a person defines herself by how she can manipulate others. Without someone to reflect back her own wants, does she even exist?

I don't believe LS is in any way 'insane' and not responsible for Gannon's death. But I also think that she is so reliant on others to sustain a sense of self, a stint in solitary may well cause her to have some kind of break that sends her to an institution in the future anyway.

That, or she will be completely satisfied with only herself and perfectly happy. It could go either way.

MOO
Good post. Thanks for sharing.
 
  • #656
She may well have just shut down at that point.
That would have been a good thing. Isolated and dead in the water so to speak
 
  • #657
Disagree. Imo he's doing a decent job. But a different strategy may have been more fruitful. This whole thing is a waste of time. He's coaxing her to talk just like Al did. Not much different in my opinion.
Yes, it's tempting for me to think, "but if he'd just said this, or tried this approach, or talked this way, then he would get what he's after." But I only thought that for a second, because I've had to learn that lesson many times over.

Thinking that if you just do and say exactly the right thing, you can change that person's behavior. And LS's manipulation feeds into that, she constantly tweaks how and what she says, to try to keep him thinking if he just responds how she wants, he'll get somewhere. But he doesn't fall for it. He knew that no matter what he said, she would not give him the answers he wanted.

I've been on the receiving end of that kind of manipulation before, but usually it's from a child, or teenager at the most; or someone very immature.
 
  • #658
Im confused about the pregnancy thing. One of her searchs was "my husband wants a baby but I want a divorce and abortion" was she really pregnant? Hadnt she been faking pregnancies?

I noticed she told the FBI guy she was 8 weeks pregnant. Did she think he would take it easier on her? It wouldnt have been Al's baby. NEWSFLASH Letecia when there is no baby people realize you are lying.
 
  • #659
Yes, it's tempting for me to think, "but if he'd just said this, or tried this approach, or talked this way, then he would get what he's after." But I only thought that for a second, because I've had to learn that lesson many times over.

Thinking that if you just do and say exactly the right thing, you can change that person's behavior. And LS's manipulation feeds into that, she constantly tweaks how and what she says, to try to keep him thinking if he just responds how she wants, he'll get somewhere. But he doesn't fall for it. He knew that no matter what he said, she would not give him the answers he wanted.

I've been on the receiving end of that kind of manipulation before, but usually it's from a child, or teenager at the most; or someone very immature.
What we're seeing in this interview is removing all doubt that she did everything with deliberateness and premeditation, and that will bury her. It doesn't matter that it didn't lead directly to them finding Gannon's body. It will be key in never allowing her to do this to another child ever again, and the importance of that cannot be understated. And this is Grusing's specialty, he KNOWS this. He'd love to bring every child home, alive or deceased, but he knows that sometimes neutralising the threat by putting them away forever is the best you get. He knew they had enough for the case without this interview, but by doing it he has cemented what was shown by her behaviour in other evidence, and he was willing to do it just on the chance she might see telling them where Gannon was as her way of saving herself. He tries to take her there. Far more prolific killers have taken authorities up on it in the past, Ridgway, for example. He didn't deal because he had any kind of conscience. But LS was still under the illusion that she could manipulate her way into no consequences, and thinking herself the smartest in the room despite Grusing outmaneuvering her at every turn. Ridgway has an IQ barely in the 80s and he made the smarter, more rational choice for self-preservation.

MOO
 
  • #660
You know as much as Letecia loves to yap her mouth, somewhat surprised there's not like 9 jail house informants lined up to testify against her.

Can you imagine being locked in a cell with this lady.

Hard no.
 
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