CO - Gannon Stauch, 11, found deceased, Colorado Springs, El Paso County, 27 Jan 2020 *Arrest* #64

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I think we will be hearing from Laina. She knew what was going on in that house.

As much as it pains me that Laina may have to testify, I think anything Laina can bring to the table will be very powerful. She will be speaking for Gannon.

I’m hoping it’s videotaped.
Someone posted earlier, It can't be videotaped, Videotape is only acceptable for a victim impact statement. She would have to be available for cross. Sorry, don't remember who posted. I really hope it is Laina or her mom. That would bring the case back where it belongs for the jury, Focus on the loss of dear Gannon, not the drama queen who shall remain unnamed, there are just too many to choose from.


ETA..the later comment from @Kiranerys regarding "Oh, just heard there will be rebuttal witnesses!" Does this mean another witness for the defense?
 
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I think we will be hearing from Laina. She knew what was going on in that house.

As much as it pains me that Laina may have to testify, I think anything Laina can bring to the table will be very powerful. She will be speaking for Gannon.

I’m hoping it’s videotaped.
I disagree that little sister will testify just because LS said she helped moved GS (the suitcase) to the car. We know the child was recorded riding her bike until HH arrived home from work and took her to the dollar store.

IMO, the suitcase was already in the vehicle (inside the garage) when police searched the house.

IMO, under the same circumstances, if anybody helped LS move a suitcase to her vehicle it would most likely be HH when she was in the house for 19 minutes before leaving for dollar store. (LS now denies sending HH to purchase cleaning supplies).

It also follows that LS would say it was little L to protect HH.

ETA: If LS had any help moving the suitcase, I doubt the party would have had a clue what they were moving. MOO
 
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Didn’t L say little sis helped move Gannons body up the stairs. Into the garage & into the car? Was he already in the suitcase? I probably have it all mixed up…..
 
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Is anyone here in the fb group Justice for G-man Gannon Stauch (rough title, I looked 5 min ago and now I can't remember it :rolleyes: ). Some interesting observations there today if you are.
 
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Me either.
Another reason I turned volume off today :p

She redeemed herself for me near the end of direct tbf.
It was just that she sounded bored, like she was rolling her eyes a lot of the time, but then Mr Young's questions weren't great and maybe she wasn't impressed with them either :D
 
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Someone posted earlier, It can't be videotaped, Videotape is only acceptable for a victim impact statement. She would have to be available for cross. Sorry, don't remember who posted. I really hope it is Laina or her mom. That would bring the case back where it belongs for the jury, Focus on the loss of dear Gannon, not the drama queen who shall remain unnamed, there are just too many to choose from.
ETA..the later comment from @Kiranerys regarding "Oh, just heard there will be rebuttal witnesses!" Does this mean another witness for the defense?

Not really, it means that the prosecution may have someone come up and rebutt Dr. Lewis' testimony and others if they wish. I think!
 
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I disagree that little sister will testify just because LS said she helped moved GS (the suitcase) to the car. We know the child was recorded riding her bike until HH arrived home from work and took her to the dollar store.

IMO, the suitcase was already in the vehicle (inside the garage) when police searched the house.

IMO, under the same circumstances, if anybody helped LS move a suitcase to her vehicle it would most likely be HH when she was in the house for 19 minutes before leaving for dollar store. (LS now denies sending HH to purchase cleaning supplies).

It also follows that LS would say it was little L to protect HH.

ETA: If LS had any help moving the suitcase, I doubt the party would have had a clue what they were moving. MOO
I was thinking that Laina testifying that she did not help LS might go towards demonstrating that LS was fabricating lies as a cover-up. Thoughts?
 
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Edited to add: Not that I think any of this is believable but I am thinking like her....

I think she admitted to killing him accidentally but denied the stabbing, beating, and removing the body because she knows she can claim insanity based on the gun shots (three assaults over time would preclude a moment of insanity) won't and all other actions she was on video/talking to people where it was clear she was not insane. So, claiming killing him with a NGRI but not admitting anything else--family moved him, etc--- is a Hail Mary that if they convict on those it is not life in prison but the murder would be a stay in the mental hospital.
 
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@10ofRods -- Tolini is citing my earlier posted stats about DID (from NIH reference) and Dr. Torres responding she read that (i.e., typically treated up to 12 yrs before DID diagnosed). Neither cites the percentage of DID except that it's rare.

Also, I have a new theory about (and predict more) the rising estimate of the global population diagnosed with DID cited: global internet access coupled with a "woke" group to champion the protection of any claim whether supported by science or not! Overnight, I was shocked at the number of YT devoted to DID. o_O

Get the right sponsor (social media/Celebrity) to endorse the idea and expect an increase of in the number of persons suddenly claiming to have DID. Come ride the wave and don't you dare question me or my diagnosis-- all under the guise of protection of civil rights. [I very much agree with Dr. Grimmlett's opinion about the DSM-V being political, and criteria subject to influence].

Unfortunately, there are just as many Zoom therapists and doctors to stamp that the patient meets two criteria and therefore is diagnosed DID. In other words, anybody can buy a diagnosis today.

And we can credit COVID-19 global pandemic for the rise in the mass number of virtual businesses including professionals working out their basements! Similar to Court, virtual professional practices would have never been acceptable prior to COVID-19. MOO
Thanks @Seattle1. Great post and I, for one, couldn’t agree more.
 
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After Jury dismissed today, Judge Warner wanted to look at scheduling for Monday.
Prosecution says one more final witness for them, will take a good chunk of time- lots of information to go over.

Judge asked did he need all day. Allen said he would know more by lunchtime.

Defense says they have 2 witnesses to call.

Judge mentioned as the trial moves forward there will be more need for traffic or crowd control. Told both sides to let him know how many seats they need for family members on both sides.

Werner said he will not place time limits on closing arguments.
Said ordinarily he does, but this case is rare.

He said although he won’t limit them, he may have to pause them after 90 minutes or so to give Jury a break or lunch.

Said they are up to 700+ exhibits and they won’t all fit in the Jury room, so he will probably arrange a separate room for exhibits and Jurors can take the ones they need back to their room.
I wonder what witness would take a large amount of time. LH??
 
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I was thinking that Laina testifying that she did not help LS might go towards demonstrating that LS was fabricating lies as a cover-up. Thoughts?

LS is strong -- she moved the suitcase into the van by herself and over the bridge rail. There was already testimony from her brother that she refused his help. I believe the prosecution would rather point LS as the liar she is and leave the child alone. They don't need this to convict LS.
 
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Is he holding the DSM-5? Did Letecia's outburst say No in denial of having read that? (Gosh, she read the Discovery and obsessively memorized the Autopsy Report!)
Yes, I believe he holds up a copy of the book.

At approximately 2:04:21:
Prosecutor: She has indicated a couple of times that she has read the whole book and things like that. Towards the end of the interview, she indicated that: “I know right from wrong”; “I read the book from cover to cover”. Do you recall her saying something to that effect?
Witness: Yes.
Prosecutor: Did that give you an indication that perhaps she may have reviewed the "DSM5"?
Witness: I had wondered, but I don’t know if she did.
Prosecutor: Your Honor, may we approach?
WATCH LIVE: Stepmom Murder Trial — CO v. Letecia Stauch — Day 16

Sorry, I can’t hear what she said. (I tried the link for the Hughes’ video, too). At the above timestamp, we can at least see her lift and turn her head to address her attorney.

My reason for linking it was honestly just to make a note of the portion of the trial the judge was addressing before noon recess. That portion starts at about 3:03:16.
WATCH LIVE: Stepmom Murder Trial — CO v. Letecia Stauch — Day 16
 
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I wonder what witness would take a large amount of time. LH??
I don’t think it will be LH.
I can definitely see her making a victim impact statement later though.

If this final witness isn’t Dr. Gray, I think it could possibly be an Expert or LE Analyst who could bring all the cell phone data,deleted Google searches, gps data, home security data, surveillance cameras, pings , bells and whistles into a clear outline for the Jury.

They’ve touched on these things, but still haven’t laid out exactly how she used the different vehicles to move Gannon and hide him.

I’m thinking about the last witness in the Murdaugh trial that put it all together with cell phone pings calls & texts and when the vehicle stopped and car door opened etc.
Paint a clear picture for the Jury.

Just speculating though.
 
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LS is strong -- she moved the suitcase into the van by herself and over the bridge rail. There was already testimony from her brother that she refused his help. I believe the prosecution would rather point LS as the liar she is and leave the child alone. They don't need this to convict LS.
No way anyone wants to have that baby girl on the stand.
I think it would really turn off the jury and feel exploitive .
She doesn’t need to relive that trauma.
JMO
 
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Just catching up with the testimony. When the defense has tried to aim for the DID insanity, they also know if they can get the jury to believe that she had another major disorder it might give another route to NGRI.

Little bits of truth are coming out in that interview---it was odd that she talked about the ridiculousness of shooting him in the jaw. We know she used a pillow so she would not have a clue as to the path of the bullet. So, it is one more place of discord---he's standing in a cape versus having her place a pillow over his head and executing him.

The other thing that was upsetting was when she admitted that she killed him and talked of feeling badly for Gannon's mom but never mentions AS. Clear that she is infuriated that he left her and more. She is not insane but her thought processes are definitely twisted.
 
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I don’t think it will be LH.
I can definitely see her making a victim impact statement later though.

If this final witness isn’t Dr. Gray, I think it could possibly be an Expert or LE Analyst who could bring all the cell phone data,deleted Google searches, gps data, home security data, surveillance cameras, pings , bells and whistles into a clear outline for the Jury.

They’ve touched on these things, but still haven’t laid out exactly how she used the different vehicles to move Gannon and hide him.

I’m thinking about the last witness in the Murdaugh trial that put it all together with cell phone pings calls & texts and when the vehicle stopped and car door opened etc.
Paint a clear picture for the Jury.

Just speculating though.
True, and I hope the prosecution additionally ties it all together with their closing. I want to see this vile witch go down. I hope she's sentenced to life + 1 million years.
 
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I don’t think it will be LH.
I can definitely see her making a victim impact statement later though.

If this final witness isn’t Dr. Gray, I think it could possibly be an Expert or LE Analyst who could bring all the cell phone data,deleted Google searches, gps data, home security data, surveillance cameras, pings , bells and whistles into a clear outline for the Jury.

They’ve touched on these things, but still haven’t laid out exactly how she used the different vehicles to move Gannon and hide him.

I’m thinking about the last witness in the Murdaugh trial that put it all together with cell phone pings calls & texts and when the vehicle stopped and car door opened etc.
Paint a clear picture for the Jury.

Just speculating though.

I was hoping that the last witness would be someone who could attest that she had access to the DSM or searches on internet at hotels/Myrtle Beach/elsewhere to prove she was setting up malingering! That would be a great wrap up in my book.
 
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