VERDICT WATCH CO - Gannon Stauch, 11, found deceased, Colorado Springs, El Paso County, 27 Jan 2020 *Arrest* #67
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arielilane
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During cross examination today, Dr. Dorothy Lewis testified saying she doesn’t know what was going through Letecia Stauch’s head when she killed Gannon. All other data say, “she loved him, and apparently he loved her.”
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arielilane
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Stauch jury question thread: PLEASE NOTE: I am going to be heavily paraphrasing the jury questions and (especially) the answers from Dr. Lewis, so not a lot of direct quotes. There were seven total questions from the jury, let’s get into it.
Juror question 1: In what way would Stauch giving Gannon enemas impact her relationship with him?
Answer: Lewis said that enemas, especially performed regularly on a child, can be a form of child molestation and sexual assault. However, Lewis cautioned that this claim from Stauch may not be true.
Juror question 2: Did the number of cases drop at Bellevue (the hospital Lewis used to work at) after Lewis’ dissociative identity disorder clinic opened?
Answer: Lewis said there was no actual research conducted on this, as far as she knows, but she “would bet money” that the answer is yes.
Juror question 3: How do you determine if someone is faking or exaggerating their mental illness or not?
Answer: Lewis gave a very long-winded answer to this, but essentially said what she had said a couple times in trial about this, that you have to look how someone acts in an interview, and look at evidence of it existing outside the interview in things like past writings.
Juror question 4: Did you perform any tests to help determine if Stauch was faking or exaggerating DID?
Answer: “Yes.” (that was actually all she said)
Juror question 5: Earlier, you said people with DID are more susceptible to believe what people say to them, then why do you openly talk about potential theories and explanations in front of the defendant during the interview.
Answer: Another long-winded answer from Lewis (and one I didn't fully understand) that I think can best be described as: (1/2)
It’s often good to run theories and questions by defendants to see their responses, even if their answers can’t necessarily be trusted, as the response can still inform on sanity.
Juror question 6: If the EEG and MRI weren’t provided how can you issue a final sanity report?
Answer: Lewis said that basically she can still conduct the sanity exam with interviews and background research and be confident in her findings, but that the EEG and MRI would have just (potentially) helped prove her findings.
And I'm very sorry to disappoint, but I missed the last juror question, it was around then that I started getting hundreds of twitter notifications from y'all and got a bit distracted, my fault on that one! Hopefully someone else can fill in the blank there.
And I believe before the mic was turned back on Stauch informed the court that she would not be testifying, the defense informed Werner they would be resting on Friday and the prosecution informed Werner they would "most likely" have no rebuttal witnesses. Closings coming Friday.
Anyway, this week has been very, very surreal and overwhelming, in the past two hours almost 1,000 people have followed me. I want to thank y'all for following my reporting the past couple days, It honestly means a lot!
I'll be back in court on Friday for what could be the last day of Stauch's trial. In the meantime, I'm gonna go have a beer lol.
Also one last thing, y’all should give @AshleyPorteeyo a follow too. She’s covered nearly every day of this trial too, and she was unlucky to have left a few minutes before juror questions.
Juror question 1: In what way would Stauch giving Gannon enemas impact her relationship with him?
Answer: Lewis said that enemas, especially performed regularly on a child, can be a form of child molestation and sexual assault. However, Lewis cautioned that this claim from Stauch may not be true.
Juror question 2: Did the number of cases drop at Bellevue (the hospital Lewis used to work at) after Lewis’ dissociative identity disorder clinic opened?
Answer: Lewis said there was no actual research conducted on this, as far as she knows, but she “would bet money” that the answer is yes.
Juror question 3: How do you determine if someone is faking or exaggerating their mental illness or not?
Answer: Lewis gave a very long-winded answer to this, but essentially said what she had said a couple times in trial about this, that you have to look how someone acts in an interview, and look at evidence of it existing outside the interview in things like past writings.
Juror question 4: Did you perform any tests to help determine if Stauch was faking or exaggerating DID?
Answer: “Yes.” (that was actually all she said)
Juror question 5: Earlier, you said people with DID are more susceptible to believe what people say to them, then why do you openly talk about potential theories and explanations in front of the defendant during the interview.
Answer: Another long-winded answer from Lewis (and one I didn't fully understand) that I think can best be described as: (1/2)
It’s often good to run theories and questions by defendants to see their responses, even if their answers can’t necessarily be trusted, as the response can still inform on sanity.
Juror question 6: If the EEG and MRI weren’t provided how can you issue a final sanity report?
Answer: Lewis said that basically she can still conduct the sanity exam with interviews and background research and be confident in her findings, but that the EEG and MRI would have just (potentially) helped prove her findings.
And I'm very sorry to disappoint, but I missed the last juror question, it was around then that I started getting hundreds of twitter notifications from y'all and got a bit distracted, my fault on that one! Hopefully someone else can fill in the blank there.
And I believe before the mic was turned back on Stauch informed the court that she would not be testifying, the defense informed Werner they would be resting on Friday and the prosecution informed Werner they would "most likely" have no rebuttal witnesses. Closings coming Friday.
Anyway, this week has been very, very surreal and overwhelming, in the past two hours almost 1,000 people have followed me. I want to thank y'all for following my reporting the past couple days, It honestly means a lot!
I'll be back in court on Friday for what could be the last day of Stauch's trial. In the meantime, I'm gonna go have a beer lol.
Also one last thing, y’all should give @AshleyPorteeyo a follow too. She’s covered nearly every day of this trial too, and she was unlucky to have left a few minutes before juror questions.
arielilane
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Big disappointment in Lewis' testimony - really feeling sad for Gannon's parents but it reinforces for me that justice will prevail! She came across to me as entitled, had to be right, no regard for the law/court, contribute to setting back mental health issues and did not care about the actual crime against Gannon and that she only cared about a paycheck. imo
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I really would have liked for the doctor to have a concise answer for Gannon's question -- why, Tecia, why are you doing this?
Why did she do this?
Wasn't because she was smart or stupid. Wasn't because part of her brain is Russian.
Wasn't because she married poorly.
If the doctor wanted to engage in actual conversation and legitimate diagnostics, perhaps she could explain what borderline personality disorder is and what is not and how it might fit someone who makes her own rules, holds court, and simultaneously holds opposing views -- that she can be desperate to keep a man, while conversely threatening to destroy everything of value to him. Push me, pull you.
She ain't crazy.
Nope, she ain't crazy; she's a crazy-maker.
Why did she do this?
Wasn't because she was smart or stupid. Wasn't because part of her brain is Russian.
Wasn't because she married poorly.
If the doctor wanted to engage in actual conversation and legitimate diagnostics, perhaps she could explain what borderline personality disorder is and what is not and how it might fit someone who makes her own rules, holds court, and simultaneously holds opposing views -- that she can be desperate to keep a man, while conversely threatening to destroy everything of value to him. Push me, pull you.
She ain't crazy.
Nope, she ain't crazy; she's a crazy-maker.
arielilane
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May 3
Week 5 Day 19
Note: Nicole did not tweet on Dr. Lewis’
First day of testimony Day 18
https://twitter.com/FierroNicole
Good morning, back on the #LeteciaStauchTrial today.
Dr. Lewis is not in the courtroom yet. Court is in recess for potentially the next 5-10 minutes until she gets there.
Dr. Lewis is here. Jury is coming in.
Cross examination resumes. When asked about controversy surrounding Dissociative identity disorder (DID), Dr. Lewis says "The essential controversy is whether people believe it exists or not.”
Dr. Lewis says she's aware there are movies where people act and pretend they have DID
Dr. Lewis said she's assisted Robert De Niro in a movie, that had to do with him being a "very dangerous guy." She gave him access to tapes of people with different disorders. Among them, there were some people that had DID.
She's being asked how to tell if people are faking DID. She looked at her notes from Letecia. She said when she was younger, she was asked to be called Maria.
Prosecution is asking her to find this in her notes, to see who told Dr. Lewis that. She's looking through her notes now but isn't finding it. "That in it in itself is not proof of anything, but it's confirmation if you have a lot of things that go with it.”
She found something in her notes. Prosecution doesn't have the notes that Dr. Lewis has in front of her. She's going to summarize what she wrote shortly.
These are notes she labeled "Letecia notes from relatives" and she notes someone telling her "Letecia called herself Maria Sanchez as a young child." The doctor had noted retrospective malingering when she heard that.
Young says Dr. Lewis should have submitted this note, wasn't in her report Dr.: "I have no memory of seeing it before until I looked through and found it in the past 12 hrs." Young: "It wasn't until you realized you had nothing to cooperate your report." Dr.: "No it was not sir"
Young: You had Ms. Stauch perform the clock test and she did horrible on it? Dr.: She did something I have seen before, with older patients who have been actually demented. Dr. asked her to do it again and she did a "much better job with it" using her other hand.
Young: Did the thought ever cross your mind she could be faking it? Dr. Lewis: No it did not occur to me that that was faking something because afterwards when I asked her to repeat this, she did a better job on it. This is still a puzzle to me.
Dr. Lewis said she wasn't aware that Stauch had done this test already before.
"It is a puzzle to me and I don't pretend to be an expert in interpreting this." Dr. Lewis referencing to the clock tests she had Letecia do. She says she did one badly and the other much better using different hands.
Young showed her a previous clock test Letecia had done with other mental evaluations before Dr. Lewis' testing.
Young: You know she was examined two days after the crime for head injuries correct? Dr. Lewis says it could be, she needs to be refreshed.
Young: Any sign of psychosis is important in a sanity evaluation? Dr. Lewis agrees
Dr. Lewis: "Insanity is many, many things"
Young: The night before this murder on Jan 26th, 2020. The defendant had a video recording of her and Gannon talking about the fire. Did you see that? Dr. Lewis: No
She says she doesn't recall looking at exactly that but she can't be certain.
They are talking about Letecia calling out of work the day of Gannon's murder saying her dad was killed.
"This man was dead for 8 years and to call in and say...she clearly was not thinking clearly...it was one of these ridiculous kinds of excuses that a person of her intellect would not be expected to share. You would say a stupidity but she isn't stupid.”
She calls Letecia calling Gannon's school to get him out of school that day with a different excuse than her father dying "a puzzle”
Young: At the time she leaves the house to go to PetCo, does she have the capacity to know right from wrong? Dr. Lewis: I don't know
Young: The autopsy report tells you that there was at least 18 cut wounds and stab wounds and a lot of those we're defense wounds....Is there indication that whoever did that had the capacity to form the intent to kill? Dr. Lewis: I don't know I would think so.
Dr. Lewis: "When I spoke with #leteciastauch the memory was I could see a gun in my hand and I don't know what was going through her head and why she shot this.”
Dr. Lewis: "I don't know it was even he that she wished to kill, clearly she did kill him but we don't know at the time if she saw #Gannon and meant to kill Gannon.”
Dr. Lewis: "She certainly believes that other people would believe she has done something horrendous and something had happened.”
Young; She takes the body out of the storage room, takes it upstairs, puts it in the Tiguan and takes it to the airport...does she know the capacity of right from wrong? Dr.: I don't know because what she says to some people is she thought she could bring the body back to life…
(continued) Dr Lewis:...She gets a hamburger and ice cream this is insane. Young: No, that's what she's saying. What happened is she drove right to the airport...what she's saying is psychotic because she wants you to think that's psychotic.
Morning recess until 10:45 am
Recess is over #LeteciaStauchTrial resumes with cross examination of Dr. Lewis.
The fact that Letecia knows to go to an isolated spot to hide the body, Dr. Lewis says that maybe shows that she knows right from wrong or maybe it shows psychosis.
The fact that #leteciastauch thought to leave her car with Gannon's body at the airport, Dr. Lewis says it shows "the capacity to know what will be regarded as incriminating and not in her best interest. Right from wrong is abstract.”
Dr. Lewis; "You are thinking more logically that I think we can give her credit for much of this. I find crazy much of what you think is logical.”
Young: You have interviewed hundreds of people on death row, have you ever come across one of those who may have lied to you. Dr. Lewis: oh yes, absolutely.
Dr. Lewis says she's aware that Letecia searched "I don't like my stepson.”
Young: If that suitcase was never found, do you think we'd be here today on an insanity case? Dr. Lewis: I can't answer that, I don't know
Young: During the interview, do you have any concerns #leteciastauch may not be truthful with you? Dr. Lewis: Of course
We are watching a video of an interview with Dr. Lewis and Letecia from November 15th 2022.
#leteciastauch is talking about a Maria in this interview.
Letecia talked about Maria having a jail call and speaking Russian. Dr. Lewis does not recall seeing or hearing a recording of a call where Letecia was speaking Russian.
In the video Letecia says she's been to Dubai and Jasmine is a princess.
Dr. Lewis says she could have been making it up or it was a fantasy.
In this clip, #leteciastauch tells Dr. Lewis she changes persona when she is stressed out. Dr. Lewis says "a triggering event" is consistent with DID.
Second video of #leteciastauch interviewing with Dr. Lewis.
Letecia says in video interview: "I was not intention to hurt Gannon, absolutely not. I love Gannon.”
Letecia says in video interview: "These people in here do this stuff I don't" ( Letecia referring to the jail and hurting people). You don't take people out, buy people stuff...I don't understand this, that's just not how it works.”
Letecia in recorded video is referring to Landen, Gannon's mom.
Letecia in recorded interview "one minute something could happen then it is switched personality." She says she hears another voice but then is quick to say she's not schizophrenic. She says she goes and forth.
Letecia in recorded interview is wiping her eyes and appears to be crying.
Letecia in recorded interview with Dr. "I didn't come up with any idea of Gannon dying”
Letecia in recorded interview with Dr. "I should have just took him with me and started his school across the country.”
Dr. Lewis answering questions on this video: "I found the entire thing incredibly confusing.”
Dr. Lewis: "There was something incredibly puzzling about who wanted to be with whom, who loved who, I found it incredibly confusing.”
Young: Do you think that's a stressor the fact that an 11-year-old boy tells his stepmother I want to be with my mother and not you? Dr. Lewis says it could be, could not be
Several times during the interview Dr. Lewis looks to the right at Stauch's attorney. She says she was trying to see if her attorney understood better what she was saying.
During these recorded interviews, she had perviously been deemed sane by the state hospital and had already had been through this process.
In this latest video, Dr. Lewis asks if Letecia thinks she was in a peculiar state when she talks bout certain events. Young is questioning if that is too leading.
Next clip is 7 minutes long. We will hear it after lunch. Recess until 1:20 pm.
We are back but the court has the camera off for the witness stand so we can't see the video of the feed, just audio for this next video.
Video is back. Letecia is saying "I am not violent at all”
In this third recorded video with Dr. Lewis, Letecia says: "My protector is Maria.....you want to talk to Maria right now? Sometimes she will talk, sometimes she will not.”
Young: How do you know she's not fooling you? Dr. Lewis: Watch, listen.
Judge is asking the jury to go into the hallway.
Judge telling Dr. Lewis and prosecutors to take 15 minutes to go through the notes that she is bringing up in court that prosecution does not believe they were provided with.
Court in recess until 2 pm.
We are back with another video from the sanity evaluation with Dr. Lewis
Letecia is telling Dr. she was trying to get him back to life and he didn't come back to life.
Letecia saying "It wasn't supposed to be.”
Letecia saying: "I'm trained to kill, that's what I do, I'm trained to kill that's what I do for a living.”
Can't tell if the audio is weird or if Letecia is speaking in and out of an accent or different language in this recorded part of the evaluation
She keeps saying "Letecia's family”
She's writing something down in the footage from the evaluation
Young is freezing the video because there's a man in the back of the footage. "What is your son doing in the interview room?”
Young to Dr. Lewis: "Is that recognized in the field to do forensic interviews with people for first degree murder and bring your son along?”
Young: Did she tell you that she mistaken identity, didn't know it was Gannon, fired a gun once, did what she had to do Dr. Lewis: Early on... Young: You know that isn't how Gannon died, only one gun shot, why didn't you question her on that?
Was hard to hear her response but it sounded like she said her son was there to help run the camera.
Going to the last clip it's an hour and twenty minutes
She's reading a letter in the footage from the interview. It's not in english and the doctor is trying to figure out what language.
Dr. Lewis is reading what she's sounding out as rest in peace Gannon on this note.
Dr. Lewis to Letecia in video: "Do you believe that's a confession from Maria”
Dr. Lewis: Maria did it? Letecia: Well, I didn’t
Recess until 3:30 pm
Court may go a little later than 5 today to wrap up with Dr. Lewis. Judge says they need to see if jury can work with that.
They are looking at the note in this video again. The word self defense came up.
When asked on the recorded sanity evaluation, how Gannon got all of those cuts, Letecia says she doesn't know about cuts. It's really hard to hear what is being said. Sometimes it sounds like an accent.
Letecia says something, naming Letecia and then says "if she's upset, i'm upset.”
Letecia is speaking with a new accent in the recording telling the Dr. "do you think this is a joke?”
Redirect of Dr. Lewis now
Dr. Lewis: What you call it is so much less important than what you understand about it. What you understand about it is that this individual has been living a psychotic life
Dr. Lewis: The person is living a psychotic life
They haven't returned the audio to the feed for these jury questions
Still no audio….
Week 5 Day 19
Note: Nicole did not tweet on Dr. Lewis’
First day of testimony Day 18
https://twitter.com/FierroNicole
Good morning, back on the #LeteciaStauchTrial today.
Dr. Lewis is not in the courtroom yet. Court is in recess for potentially the next 5-10 minutes until she gets there.
Dr. Lewis is here. Jury is coming in.
Cross examination resumes. When asked about controversy surrounding Dissociative identity disorder (DID), Dr. Lewis says "The essential controversy is whether people believe it exists or not.”
Dr. Lewis says she's aware there are movies where people act and pretend they have DID
Dr. Lewis said she's assisted Robert De Niro in a movie, that had to do with him being a "very dangerous guy." She gave him access to tapes of people with different disorders. Among them, there were some people that had DID.
She's being asked how to tell if people are faking DID. She looked at her notes from Letecia. She said when she was younger, she was asked to be called Maria.
Prosecution is asking her to find this in her notes, to see who told Dr. Lewis that. She's looking through her notes now but isn't finding it. "That in it in itself is not proof of anything, but it's confirmation if you have a lot of things that go with it.”
She found something in her notes. Prosecution doesn't have the notes that Dr. Lewis has in front of her. She's going to summarize what she wrote shortly.
These are notes she labeled "Letecia notes from relatives" and she notes someone telling her "Letecia called herself Maria Sanchez as a young child." The doctor had noted retrospective malingering when she heard that.
Young says Dr. Lewis should have submitted this note, wasn't in her report Dr.: "I have no memory of seeing it before until I looked through and found it in the past 12 hrs." Young: "It wasn't until you realized you had nothing to cooperate your report." Dr.: "No it was not sir"
Young: You had Ms. Stauch perform the clock test and she did horrible on it? Dr.: She did something I have seen before, with older patients who have been actually demented. Dr. asked her to do it again and she did a "much better job with it" using her other hand.
Young: Did the thought ever cross your mind she could be faking it? Dr. Lewis: No it did not occur to me that that was faking something because afterwards when I asked her to repeat this, she did a better job on it. This is still a puzzle to me.
Dr. Lewis said she wasn't aware that Stauch had done this test already before.
"It is a puzzle to me and I don't pretend to be an expert in interpreting this." Dr. Lewis referencing to the clock tests she had Letecia do. She says she did one badly and the other much better using different hands.
Young showed her a previous clock test Letecia had done with other mental evaluations before Dr. Lewis' testing.
Young: You know she was examined two days after the crime for head injuries correct? Dr. Lewis says it could be, she needs to be refreshed.
Young: Any sign of psychosis is important in a sanity evaluation? Dr. Lewis agrees
Dr. Lewis: "Insanity is many, many things"
Young: The night before this murder on Jan 26th, 2020. The defendant had a video recording of her and Gannon talking about the fire. Did you see that? Dr. Lewis: No
She says she doesn't recall looking at exactly that but she can't be certain.
They are talking about Letecia calling out of work the day of Gannon's murder saying her dad was killed.
"This man was dead for 8 years and to call in and say...she clearly was not thinking clearly...it was one of these ridiculous kinds of excuses that a person of her intellect would not be expected to share. You would say a stupidity but she isn't stupid.”
She calls Letecia calling Gannon's school to get him out of school that day with a different excuse than her father dying "a puzzle”
Young: At the time she leaves the house to go to PetCo, does she have the capacity to know right from wrong? Dr. Lewis: I don't know
Young: The autopsy report tells you that there was at least 18 cut wounds and stab wounds and a lot of those we're defense wounds....Is there indication that whoever did that had the capacity to form the intent to kill? Dr. Lewis: I don't know I would think so.
Dr. Lewis: "When I spoke with #leteciastauch the memory was I could see a gun in my hand and I don't know what was going through her head and why she shot this.”
Dr. Lewis: "I don't know it was even he that she wished to kill, clearly she did kill him but we don't know at the time if she saw #Gannon and meant to kill Gannon.”
Dr. Lewis: "She certainly believes that other people would believe she has done something horrendous and something had happened.”
Young; She takes the body out of the storage room, takes it upstairs, puts it in the Tiguan and takes it to the airport...does she know the capacity of right from wrong? Dr.: I don't know because what she says to some people is she thought she could bring the body back to life…
(continued) Dr Lewis:...She gets a hamburger and ice cream this is insane. Young: No, that's what she's saying. What happened is she drove right to the airport...what she's saying is psychotic because she wants you to think that's psychotic.
Morning recess until 10:45 am
Recess is over #LeteciaStauchTrial resumes with cross examination of Dr. Lewis.
The fact that Letecia knows to go to an isolated spot to hide the body, Dr. Lewis says that maybe shows that she knows right from wrong or maybe it shows psychosis.
The fact that #leteciastauch thought to leave her car with Gannon's body at the airport, Dr. Lewis says it shows "the capacity to know what will be regarded as incriminating and not in her best interest. Right from wrong is abstract.”
Dr. Lewis; "You are thinking more logically that I think we can give her credit for much of this. I find crazy much of what you think is logical.”
Young: You have interviewed hundreds of people on death row, have you ever come across one of those who may have lied to you. Dr. Lewis: oh yes, absolutely.
Dr. Lewis says she's aware that Letecia searched "I don't like my stepson.”
Young: If that suitcase was never found, do you think we'd be here today on an insanity case? Dr. Lewis: I can't answer that, I don't know
Young: During the interview, do you have any concerns #leteciastauch may not be truthful with you? Dr. Lewis: Of course
We are watching a video of an interview with Dr. Lewis and Letecia from November 15th 2022.
#leteciastauch is talking about a Maria in this interview.
Letecia talked about Maria having a jail call and speaking Russian. Dr. Lewis does not recall seeing or hearing a recording of a call where Letecia was speaking Russian.
In the video Letecia says she's been to Dubai and Jasmine is a princess.
Dr. Lewis says she could have been making it up or it was a fantasy.
In this clip, #leteciastauch tells Dr. Lewis she changes persona when she is stressed out. Dr. Lewis says "a triggering event" is consistent with DID.
Second video of #leteciastauch interviewing with Dr. Lewis.
Letecia says in video interview: "I was not intention to hurt Gannon, absolutely not. I love Gannon.”
Letecia says in video interview: "These people in here do this stuff I don't" ( Letecia referring to the jail and hurting people). You don't take people out, buy people stuff...I don't understand this, that's just not how it works.”
Letecia in recorded video is referring to Landen, Gannon's mom.
Letecia in recorded interview "one minute something could happen then it is switched personality." She says she hears another voice but then is quick to say she's not schizophrenic. She says she goes and forth.
Letecia in recorded interview is wiping her eyes and appears to be crying.
Letecia in recorded interview with Dr. "I didn't come up with any idea of Gannon dying”
Letecia in recorded interview with Dr. "I should have just took him with me and started his school across the country.”
Dr. Lewis answering questions on this video: "I found the entire thing incredibly confusing.”
Dr. Lewis: "There was something incredibly puzzling about who wanted to be with whom, who loved who, I found it incredibly confusing.”
Young: Do you think that's a stressor the fact that an 11-year-old boy tells his stepmother I want to be with my mother and not you? Dr. Lewis says it could be, could not be
Several times during the interview Dr. Lewis looks to the right at Stauch's attorney. She says she was trying to see if her attorney understood better what she was saying.
During these recorded interviews, she had perviously been deemed sane by the state hospital and had already had been through this process.
In this latest video, Dr. Lewis asks if Letecia thinks she was in a peculiar state when she talks bout certain events. Young is questioning if that is too leading.
Next clip is 7 minutes long. We will hear it after lunch. Recess until 1:20 pm.
We are back but the court has the camera off for the witness stand so we can't see the video of the feed, just audio for this next video.
Video is back. Letecia is saying "I am not violent at all”
In this third recorded video with Dr. Lewis, Letecia says: "My protector is Maria.....you want to talk to Maria right now? Sometimes she will talk, sometimes she will not.”
Young: How do you know she's not fooling you? Dr. Lewis: Watch, listen.
Judge is asking the jury to go into the hallway.
Judge telling Dr. Lewis and prosecutors to take 15 minutes to go through the notes that she is bringing up in court that prosecution does not believe they were provided with.
Court in recess until 2 pm.
We are back with another video from the sanity evaluation with Dr. Lewis
Letecia is telling Dr. she was trying to get him back to life and he didn't come back to life.
Letecia saying "It wasn't supposed to be.”
Letecia saying: "I'm trained to kill, that's what I do, I'm trained to kill that's what I do for a living.”
Can't tell if the audio is weird or if Letecia is speaking in and out of an accent or different language in this recorded part of the evaluation
She keeps saying "Letecia's family”
She's writing something down in the footage from the evaluation
Young is freezing the video because there's a man in the back of the footage. "What is your son doing in the interview room?”
Young to Dr. Lewis: "Is that recognized in the field to do forensic interviews with people for first degree murder and bring your son along?”
Young: Did she tell you that she mistaken identity, didn't know it was Gannon, fired a gun once, did what she had to do Dr. Lewis: Early on... Young: You know that isn't how Gannon died, only one gun shot, why didn't you question her on that?
Was hard to hear her response but it sounded like she said her son was there to help run the camera.
Going to the last clip it's an hour and twenty minutes
She's reading a letter in the footage from the interview. It's not in english and the doctor is trying to figure out what language.
Dr. Lewis is reading what she's sounding out as rest in peace Gannon on this note.
Dr. Lewis to Letecia in video: "Do you believe that's a confession from Maria”
Dr. Lewis: Maria did it? Letecia: Well, I didn’t
Recess until 3:30 pm
Court may go a little later than 5 today to wrap up with Dr. Lewis. Judge says they need to see if jury can work with that.
They are looking at the note in this video again. The word self defense came up.
When asked on the recorded sanity evaluation, how Gannon got all of those cuts, Letecia says she doesn't know about cuts. It's really hard to hear what is being said. Sometimes it sounds like an accent.
Letecia says something, naming Letecia and then says "if she's upset, i'm upset.”
Letecia is speaking with a new accent in the recording telling the Dr. "do you think this is a joke?”
Redirect of Dr. Lewis now
Dr. Lewis: What you call it is so much less important than what you understand about it. What you understand about it is that this individual has been living a psychotic life
Dr. Lewis: The person is living a psychotic life
They haven't returned the audio to the feed for these jury questions
Still no audio….
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Probably wishing they could deliberate the stairwell....
Thanks to everyone who posts. I often catch up in the evenings by reading the threads. Those of you virtually attending & posting details & notes are awesome. Your work is very much appreciated! And I hope it's in support of a guilty verdict for LS. I know it illuminates & honors the memory of Gannon. Thank you again.
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Well, I guess that today was it for defense. I think that we will probably have a verdict on Friday. May even beat the "Murdaugh" time in deliberations.
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Just my opinion, but I do think it was originally in the suitcase with Gannon, but she took it out when she picked him up before she went to the house to get all of her stuff out. My thought is she wanted it to seem like he took it with him when he "ran away", but she panicked thinking they might be able to locate it and retrieved it.
I think she just sneakily chucked it (under the entertainment center? I think?) while she was scurrying around grabbing everything with her family.
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Ooooh, my favorite is question 5! These jurors are onto your scam lady!
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She already did!
My partner and I, much like a lot of posters here on WS, were feeling kinda bad for Dr. Lewis, like maybe the defense bamboozled her and set her up for failure because she's obviously not all there and maybe easily confused due to her age.
Well, during today's lunch break I put the HBO documenary on, and that is just how she is. She's an outright fraud and it's easy to see even in the documentary made to spin things in her favor.
This lady actually acts like Arthur Shawcross was some poor, unfortunate soul who just had a bad life. She is really grody IMO and always has been.
I think she found a niche part of psychology and started cashing in on it a long time ago. Now that decades have gone by and more is known, she's struggling to hang on to any relevance and $$$ grabs she can.
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Live from Courthouse - 11-min Video at the link with Court TV reporter (Julia) describing her observation of the courtroom -- jurors and people in the gallery.
www.courttv.com
Letecia Stauch will not testify in her own defense
A jury saw more video of Letecia's interview with a psychiatrist, where she appeared to speak as alternate identities.
www.courttv.com
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Some doctors order them for varies things, I am thinking she used this as a method so he would not soil himself on outings. Like not under advisement from a doctor but that is all speculation.
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Yeah, she pulled a lot of the same stunts when she was testifying forty years ago. The documentary makes that clear. She's elderly, yes, but her performance on the stand was the same kind of junk she's been doing for decades. Not infirmity, manipulation and deliberate disrespect for the whole institution of a trial and the law. She's dangerous. I only hope this is the last trial she's able to exploit for gain. She makes money from tragedy, from murder, from the actions of very bad, very violent people, and not only that, her testimony could mean those people go free. There's nothing benign in that.
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It really struck me that she repeated the statement multiple times today that "Le-TEE-SEE-ah *loved* Gannon." It made me wonder if she was doing it to reinforce the idea in the jurors minds. She may well have been told that she would likely be the last witness and I couldn't help feeling that she was doing it intentionally to leave that as a last impression on the jurors to influence them. JMOO
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Probably was her intention, but fortunately, they have a whole separate ROOM filled with exhibits (because they won't fit in the jury room and leave room for the jury to be in there at the same time) that speak volumes about how much she didn't love Gannon, and what she did to destroy him and steal him from his family.
Doctor Lewis leaves them with a scant seven page report that wasn't written to the standard required by the state of Colorado, interminable videos of her coaching the defendant, and no evidence to support her diagnosis.
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