VERDICT WATCH CO - Gannon Stauch, 11, found deceased, Colorado Springs, El Paso County, 27 Jan 2020 *Arrest* #67

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  • #281
I honestly believe that Leticia decided not to testify after seeing how ridiculous all of her lies and stories sounded and looked in the videos shown in court. IF she had not seen those I think she would have absolutely got on the stand.
 
  • #282
I honestly believe that Leticia decided not to testify after seeing how ridiculous all of her lies and stories sounded and looked in the videos shown in court. IF she had not seen those I think she would have absolutely got on the stand.
So I kinda think if closings got delayed until Monday she would . All the silence ,she would want to fill it.
 
  • #283
I thought the way the Judge reminded Dr Lewis (twice) of the rules of evidence in CO, he was careful to imply that it was understandable that she couldn't remember, after being told once. Because he knows that she testifies in many states.

It was very nice of him to explain away her forgetfulness. Twice.

IMO.


I honestly believe that Leticia decided not to testify after seeing how ridiculous all of her lies and stories sounded and looked in the videos shown in court. IF she had not seen those I think she would have absolutely got on the stand.

I seriously wonder why she would start being concerned at THIS point. One would think that if anyone could possibly explain her nonsense, she could. It's her time to display that she's insane. She could run with the psychosis ball that Dr Lewis delivered to her.

IMO.
 
  • #284
So...I'm still stuck on Dr. Lewis first saying she had no documents but then remembers she has them a bit later.

Was that ever fully resolved? She had the right document, right?

I assume that the Judge decided to be lenient with her on the grounds that she's old. But didn't she basically lie on the stand? Will that come out only during closing? The jury doesn't know. Will they learn that she broke discovery rules?
I don't fully understand the issue with Dorothy Lewis's notes. But I know that Dave Young and Tolini gathered a pile of papers then placed them in a folder.

IMO, judge Werner was too lenient in hiding Lewis's defiance of court rules and orders from the jury. As a member of a jury that reached a verdict, it would be very unsettling to later learn relevant information that would change my position. I believe jurors place their trust that the court only allows expert witnesses that are in deed credible. At the very least, the expert should be licensed in their profession as that in itself offers protection to the public.

Whether DA Michael Allen or ADA Dave Young, I trust they will wrap it all up a nice package for the jury to receive. No other case affected me emotionally as much as this one. And given the level of evil that exists, I chose to prepare myself by facing the worst case scenario which (I believe) is a hung jury. In that case (I believe) the judge will send the jury back to continue deliberation or the case will be retried and Dorothy Lewis will NOT be entered as an expert witness. As always, I am open to any correction.
 
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  • #285
The extra person in the interview Nov 22 ? The whole unofficial ,assistant ?
I am not a lawyer but all that was looking like a Hollywood impeachment ?
Do i just watch to much TV or did he decided not to act on all of the..Was Jr at risk for a side trip ?

It follows that the prosecution did not object or motion to suppress the video interview from being admitted into evidence (based on the 2nd party in the interview with LS), and therefore doubt Judge Werner was aware of it until trial when the prosecution used this against the defense and the expert witness!

In other words, it's the attorney's responsibility to make the objection and the Judges role is to rule on the objection.
 
  • #286
So...I'm still stuck on Dr. Lewis first saying she had no documents but then remembers she has them a bit later.

Was that ever fully resolved? She had the right document, right?

I assume that the Judge decided to be lenient with her on the grounds that she's old. But didn't she basically lie on the stand? Will that come out only during closing? The jury doesn't know. Will they learn that she broke discovery rules?

As much as I love Judge Werner’s demeanor, after all of the nonsense yesterday I was really hoping he was about to publicly shame someone by days end.

Whether that be Dorothy, her son, or some other member of the public….I really thought it was necessary. You shouldn’t have to tell grown adults more than once something in a court setting.
 
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Question 6 - so according to Dr Lewis, everyone who commits violent acts is psychotic. WTH. Violence is not a necessary symptom of psychosis. She is frightening.
 
  • #289
It follows that the prosecution did not object or motion to suppress the video interview from being admitted into evidence (based on the 2nd party in the interview with LS), and therefore doubt Judge Werner was aware of it until trial when the prosecution used this against the defense and the expert witness!

In other words, it's the attorney's responsibility to make the objection and the Judges role is to rule on the objection.
Is it safe to believe that instead of the prosecution suppressing the video, they decided to use it as a means to expose the expert and/or content in an unfavorable light? I think Dave Young is a seasoned trial attorney and I am impressed!
 
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Shout-out to reporter Ashley Portillo (KOAA) for going above and beyond to keep the public apprised of the happenings inside the courtroom for this case. She's been present every day, and hope she sticks around in the 4th Judicial District! :)

ETA: Noting her Twitter is set to receive DM's which is always a plus for us.

 
  • #292
I hope, in their closing statements, the prosecutors ask the jury to consider why she had to strike so many blows to such a small body? Why did she have to stab him 18 times? Why after that, why did she then have to strike him 4 times with some blunt force object, bashing in his small, still growing little skull? And then after that, why did she have to shoot him? The defense would have you believe it was because she was being irrational. Or psychotic. But here's the real reason why she struck him so many times.

Little Gannon was born just one and half pounds. He was so tiny that no one expected him to live. But that little tiny baby, that little tiny boy you could hold in one hand, he wanted to live. He wanted to live. He fought so hard - day after day - growing ounce after ounce - to live. He refused to give up.

And 11 years later, when the stepmother who hated caring for him, who despised having to help him with his stomach issues, who resented being his "babysitter", who said in a google search that she didn't like him, who was furious with his father, and hated his mother, when she decided to end his life, he fought!

Oh he fought. Just like he did 11 years ago. He fought for his life. He fought back against those stabbings, all 18 of them. We saw the proof of it on his hands, and his little fingers. And then he fought back against the blows, all four of them, he fought to keep his heart beating. He fought to keep breathing.

And when she heard those breaths, those last gasps for air, realizing that he was still alive, she ran upstairs and got the gun. The one wound he couldn't fight back against.

Gannon wanted to live. In the face of all her anger, and hatred, and resentment, and selfishness - despite it all - he wanted to live.

It wasn't psychosis. It wasn't insanity. It wasn't irrationality. No. She wanted him dead. It was his love of life, his fight to live, that caused her to have to deliver so many blows. He wanted to live.
 
  • #293
As much as I love Judge Werner’s demeanor, after all of the nonsense yesterday I was really hoping he was about to publicly shame someone by days end.

Whether that be Dorothy, her son, or some other member of the public….I really thought it was necessary. You shouldn’t have to tell grown adults more than once something in a court setting.
And nonsense it was. From arriving late, phones ringing, recording devices, smoking, discovery notes .... all in the same day! At one point, I saw a weary expression on a man so tired of it all.
 
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  • #295
Question 6 - so according to Dr Lewis, everyone who commits violent acts is psychotic. WTH. Violence is not a necessary symptom of psychosis. She is frightening.
Yeah! So according to D. Lewis, violent offenders can't be held responsible for their actions because they were psychotic at the time of the offense. I'll just say that she is more experienced at "Crazy Making" than LS.
 
  • #296
I was so wrong yesterday when I thought she’d testify. I can hardly believe it. I just can’t see how she will go down without speaking her mind. All the things that she wanted to say while testimony was being given. Where will she store that info? There’s very little room in that skull of hers. Is it enough for her to spout off with her attorneys and let the jury decide her fate? I think not.
My guess that LS would testify in her own defense was off the mark too. I thought for sure she'd feel compelled to put on one last show. Maybe she is just tired and weary, like we all are.
 
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  • #298
Doctor Lewis' responses are terrible. She's basically claiming/implying only she has the expertise to diagnose DID. Only she knows the difference between malingering and true symptoms. There are actually defined tests for malingering. MMP-2 specifically tests for that, I seem to recall (from Dr Curry's testimony in the DeppVHeard trial).

Notice how she's speculating about the victimisation of Letitia rather than Gannon in the first question. Basically excusing any sexual abuse she may have perpetrated on him. "If she did bad things to him it's because she had bad things done to her first." Even though she only has letitia's word for those childhood claims. Remember she did not interview Al or Harley or other relatives. And yet she claims one of the other factors in determining her opinion was the observation of her behaviours by others.

But everyone else (family, clinicians, LEO) has said she did not ACT psychotic, nor present any behaviours which might be unusual for her nor show evidence of alters.

We've seen video footage for ourselves if Letecia prior to her meeting with Lewis when she started presenting her 'crazy'.

Good god, both of these woman are frauds. I truly hope someone (with the proper authority) reports Dr. Lewis to the relevant licensing boards. She needs to be investigated for unethical behaviour. I presume they won't bother because of age but she's obviously peddling dangerous false and unsupported theories while advocating for people who have committed some of the most violent and depraved crimes. Her attitude towards Hitler explains her whole world view. It's a dangerous mindset that should not be encouraged. All just my opinion.
 
  • #299
So Liberty ,in person or online ? Anyway we should have a huge running list of murderers who graced their ,threshold as a resource thread on WS. For informational purposes.
My guess would be online. The program for the education doctorate she claims to have is offered online at Liberty. She claimed that degree was to be awarded in 2019. And so far as I know, in 2019 and the years prior she and AS were in SC, Alaska, and Colorado. I don't think she spent time in Virginia so I don't to think she earned a Liberty degree in person. The master's degree she claims to have is from Capella, another purveyor of online degrees with special efforts given to attracting active military and military spouses.
JMO
 
  • #300
I hope, in their closing statements, the prosecutors ask the jury to consider why she had to strike so many blows to such a small body? Why did she have to stab him 18 times? Why after that, why did she then have to strike him 4 times with some blunt force object, bashing in his small, still growing little skull? And then after that, why did she have to shoot him? The defense would have you believe it was because she was being irrational. Or psychotic. But here's the real reason why she struck him so many times.

Little Gannon was born just one and half pounds. He was so tiny that no one expected him to live. But that little tiny baby, that little tiny boy you could hold in one hand, he wanted to live. He wanted to live. He fought so hard - day after day - growing ounce after ounce - to live. He refused to give up.

And 11 years later, when the stepmother who hated caring for him, who despised having to help him with his stomach issues, who resented being his "babysitter", who said in a google search that she didn't like him, who was furious with his father, and hated his mother, when she decided to end his life, he fought!

Oh he fought. Just like he did 11 years ago. He fought for his life. He fought back against those stabbings, all 18 of them. We saw the proof of it on his hands, and his little fingers. And then he fought back against the blows, all four of them, he fought to keep his heart beating. He fought to keep breathing.

And when she heard those breaths, those last gasps for air, realizing that he was still alive, she ran upstairs and got the gun. The one wound he couldn't fight back against.

Gannon wanted to live. In the face of all her anger, and hatred, and resentment, and selfishness - despite it all - he wanted to live.

It wasn't psychosis. It wasn't insanity. It wasn't irrationality. No. She wanted him dead. It was his love of life, his fight to live, that caused her to have to deliver so many blows. He wanted to live.
Wow! The jury needs to hear it just like this!
 
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