VERDICT WATCH CO - Gannon Stauch, 11, found deceased, Colorado Springs, El Paso County, 27 Jan 2020 *Arrest* #67

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  • #401
The prosecutor asked Dr. Lewis if she believed Stauch knew right from wrong when she allegedly put Gannon's body in the back of a car and drove to the airport.

“I don’t feel qualified to conclude that
. She certainly had the capacity to move it from one place to another. Whether or not she felt this was right or wrong, I can’t speculate,” said Dr. Lewis. “Any speculation is possible. If the body is in your car, you may want to avoid going anywhere near that car.”


This suggests to me that if she ever had any actual patients they should be followed up because it's unlikely she administered sound medicine or advice..
 
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here for you sweetness! We’re coming for justice!
 
  • #403
Here for Gannon #GannonStrong

Felony Friday, wonder what in the world might happen by the end of the day?

Hopefully the case will go to the jury before lunch, and she'll be found guilty NOT by reason of insanity before dinner.
 
  • #404
Did anyone else notice that Dr. Lewis said something to the effect that "This is going to go to appeal and then I will get the MRI scans" ? It was right before the prosecution asked her to stop talking and called for her comment to be stricken.

Isn't this her admitting that they were going to lose? That Leticia was going to be found guilty, hence the talk of appeal.
 
  • #405
Here for Gannon #GannonStrong

Felony Friday, wonder what in the world might happen by the end of the day?

Hopefully the case will go to the jury before lunch, and she'll be found guilty NOT by reason of insanity before dinner.
Didn't the judge say earlier this week that he was going to give the lawyers basically a day to prepare closing arguments because of the length of the trial? I suspect that defense didn't rest at the end of the day on Wednesday in order to preserve an opportunity to throw another noodle at the wall. Will surely (please, Dear God) rest this morning. Will they go right into closing arguments, with yesterday being the preparation day off?

I just want to be able to set my egg-timer for verdict watch.

Jmo
 
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Did anyone else notice that Dr. Lewis said something to the effect that "This is going to go to appeal and then I will get the MRI scans" ? It was right before the prosecution asked her to stop talking and called for her comment to be stricken.

Isn't this her admitting that they were going to lose? That Leticia was going to be found guilty, hence the talk of appeal.
Oh yes.
She wasn't too pushed about the EEg and the MRI because they would be more useful on appeal.
This whole trial has been all about the appeal.
She dropped it.
 
  • #407
Here for Gannon #GannonStrong

Felony Friday, wonder what in the world might happen by the end of the day?

Hopefully the case will go to the jury before lunch, and she'll be found guilty NOT by reason of insanity before dinner.
It took me a few times reading begfore I got what you were saying. LOL I need more coffee!
 
  • #408
Dbm
 
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I have a question, specific to borderline personality disorder.

Is "impressionable" a feature? Maybe not quite the right word because it implies a passivity I don't intend.

It appears that T sizes people up quickly. Friend or foe. Foe, she goes on attack. Friend, she morphs into what that person seeks.

Maybe more than impressionable, some kind of malignant sponge, in T's case.

With AS, I don't know but I suspect that at first she morphed into hot teacher, then educator and carer. The longer she was with him, the harder to maintain the facade because that's all it ever was, an act.

She hated her attorneys, hated they weren't buying her gibberish, but Dt. Lewis? I think T found a friend. A supporter, an ally. Someone she could use (which is what she does. Made up Marie, killing is what she do, but T, using people is what she do.) IMO T morphed into Dr. Lewis' suggestions. T was at a job interview for DID. Faking her credentials as she went....

That rings true to me.

And if the doctor is a true physician, she would have known this about the nature of certain personality disorders and combinations thereof and should have guarded against even the appearance of leading the patient. Plus she should have girded herself with healthy skepticism, clinical methods, with cross checks to make sure she was not manipulated nor the patient malingering.

Jmo
 
  • #410
How many chances at appeals do you get in CO?
 
  • #411
I have a question, specific to borderline personality disorder.

Is "impressionable" a feature? Maybe not quite the right word because it implies a passivity I don't intend.

It appears that T sizes people up quickly. Friend or foe. Foe, she goes on attack. Friend, she morphs into what that person seeks.

With AS, I don't know but I suspect that at first she morphed into hot teacher, then educator and carer. The longer she was with him, the harder to maintain the facade because that's all it ever was, an act.

She hated her attorneys, hated they weren't buying her gibberish, but Dt. Lewis? I think T found a friend. A supporter, an ally. Someine she could use (which is what she does. Made up Marie, killing is w
i BROKE ANOTHER LINK.
Sorry, I don't know if it's me or screen slipping..
I'm not sure who is responsible for the symbiosis between herself and Lewis..

It is there but paper never refuses ink unlike my keyboard and groggy head after being up all night reading another case I swore I wouldn't touch. The beauty of WS..you can end up on so many unplanned journeys..

Tee infects all in her sphere and many who are not..

Being small minded I'd like to know she's not getting away with it in prison but I pity anyone locked up with her for any period of time.
 
  • #412
How many chances at appeals do you get in CO?
I don't know but damned if I'll sit through this again.
If the Judge would only bar appeals and offer her 5 years off a 99 year sentence in exchange I could live with her constitoootional rights being violated. However that is mere wishful thinking
 
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i BROKE ANOTHER LINK.
Sorry, I don't know if it's me or screen slipping..
I'm not sure who is responsible for the symbiosis between herself and Lewis..

It is there but paper never refuses ink unlike my keyboard and groggy head after being up all night reading another case I swore I wouldn't touch. The beauty of WS..you can end up on so many unplanned journeys..

Tee infects all in her sphere and many who are not..

Being small minded I'd like to know she's not getting away with it in prison but I pity anyone locked up with her for any period of time.
Symbiotic. Good word. Only we need something darker. That was a two-way transference if ever I saw one. Manipulation going both ways.

I'm glad the Prosecution exposed it.
 
  • #414
Colorado does not have reciprocal licensing agreements (automatic reciprocity) with other states. The Board grants licenses on the basis of examination. Verification of licensure and certified copies of any disciplinary actions taken in other states are required as part of the application.

The above citation does note the "occasional" practice of medicine is allowed without a Colorado license per the Medical Practice Act.

Here is a more complete explanation.

I think Dr. L MAY be ok license-wise (and if she is, I suspect the prosecution knew it all along.) She is apparently licensed in NY. If she has liability insurance, she is allowed to practice "occasionally" in Colorado without a license as long as she

"Limits the services provided in this state to an occasional case or consultation."

I'd think LS's case would qualify as occasional.

JMO
 
  • #415
While I hate to wait through the weekend, I'm used to it.
I'm so hoping they finish their closing arguments this morning and then the jury returns a very swift and just verdict. But if we have to wait through the weekend, like you I'm going to stay positive. Some things really do cry out for justice and the vicious senseless murder of a little child is one of them.
 
  • #416
I hope, in their closing statements, the prosecutors ask the jury to consider why she had to strike so many blows to such a small body? Why did she have to stab him 18 times? Why after that, why did she then have to strike him 4 times with some blunt force object, bashing in his small, still growing little skull? And then after that, why did she have to shoot him? The defense would have you believe it was because she was being irrational. Or psychotic. But here's the real reason why she struck him so many times.

Little Gannon was born just one and half pounds. He was so tiny that no one expected him to live. But that little tiny baby, that little tiny boy you could hold in one hand, he wanted to live. He wanted to live. He fought so hard - day after day - growing ounce after ounce - to live. He refused to give up.

And 11 years later, when the stepmother who hated caring for him, who despised having to help him with his stomach issues, who resented being his "babysitter", who said in a google search that she didn't like him, who was furious with his father, and hated his mother, when she decided to end his life, he fought!

Oh he fought. Just like he did 11 years ago. He fought for his life. He fought back against those stabbings, all 18 of them. We saw the proof of it on his hands, and his little fingers. And then he fought back against the blows, all four of them, he fought to keep his heart beating. He fought to keep breathing.

And when she heard those breaths, those last gasps for air, realizing that he was still alive, she ran upstairs and got the gun. The one wound he couldn't fight back against.

Gannon wanted to live. In the face of all her anger, and hatred, and resentment, and selfishness - despite it all - he wanted to live.

It wasn't psychosis. It wasn't insanity. It wasn't irrationality. No. She wanted him dead. It was his love of life, his fight to live, that caused her to have to deliver so many blows. He wanted to live.

Wow. Oh my, I am already crying this morning (thanks menopause). My daughter is due to give birth to twin boys any day and we already know they'll be premature. I can just imagine her putting one of those boys in my arms and I just bust out crying for Gannon. For all the reasons above that @LightandReason so eloquently stated.
 
  • #417
I have a question, specific to borderline personality disorder.

Is "impressionable" a feature? Maybe not quite the right word because it implies a passivity I don't intend.

It appears that T sizes people up quickly. Friend or foe. Foe, she goes on attack. Friend, she morphs into what that person seeks.

Maybe more than impressionable, some kind of malignant sponge, in T's case.

With AS, I don't know but I suspect that at first she morphed into hot teacher, then educator and carer. The longer she was with him, the harder to maintain the facade because that's all it ever was, an act.

She hated her attorneys, hated they weren't buying her gibberish, but Dt. Lewis? I think T found a friend. A supporter, an ally. Someone she could use (which is what she does. Made up Marie, killing is what she do, but T, using people is what she do.) IMO T morphed into Dr. Lewis' suggestions. T was at a job interview for DID. Faking her credentials as she went....

That rings true to me.

And if the doctor is a true physician, she would have known this about the nature of certain personality disorders and combinations thereof and should have guarded against even the appearance of leading the patient. Plus she should have girded herself with healthy skepticism, clinical methods, with cross checks to make sure she was not manipulated nor the patient malingering.

Jmo

Yes, I’m sure there’s a medical term but I’ve always heard it referred to as chameleoning. Part of the disorder is having no sense of self or a very shifting sense of self identity so a lot of personality traits are an act taken from others. The act tends to change over time, depending on who they’re around. Once it becomes too difficult to maintain the act, those close to them see more of their less enjoyable traits and behaviors. The disorder is also characterized by very black and white thinking, which would explain instantly deciding someone is either a friend or a foe. Friends they tend to idealize before switching to devaluing. Foes are immediately devalued. MOO
 
  • #418
Feeling like I kind of lost my temper wednesday, just a little bit. I said I wasn’t going to watch Dr Lewis’ testimony as I knew I wouldn’t be able to stop myself from commenting, I really dislike her and have done for some time. There are people in life who exist only to exploit others for personal gain. LS is one of these, and so is Dr Lewis IMO. She has made a career off of exploiting, misleading and outright lying. Her behaviour on the stand the last few days is not new, and certainly not due to her age.

I knew her testimony was going to make me mad and I didn’t want to end up commenting and making a fool of myself in the heat of the moment, however I didn’t know it was going to make me as angry as it did. Along with making a mockery of Gannon’s murder, psychology, mental illness she also managed to make a mockery of the court aswell. I have never, in years of following trials (my first was Casey Anthony - the less said about that the better), I have never seen anything like the testimony of Lewis.

What expert witness would have their own son sit in on an evaluation with an inmate and then when confronted with the evidence of him being there claim not to recognise their own son? Personally, I think that was the moment when it would have become clear to everyone in the court room that Lewis was a fraud. To then go on to refuse to admit that she withdrew the request for the EEG, when again confronted with the evidence that she did so. Instead of just coming clean and admitting an ‘error in judgement’ she chose to lie when confronted with the evidence and completely undermine her entire testimony. Who’s going to believe a word that comes out of her mouth when she can’t admit to making mistakes. It just ruined any credibility she had left at that point (if any) and drew parallels to LS personality wise with her refusal to admit wrongdoing when the evidence was presented to her.

All in all her testimony not only fell flat it probably hurt the defense, and her behaviour on the stand risked a mistrial being declared. If I were LS defense attorney I would not be paying Lewis after that sorry display and if I were any defense attorney I would not contact her to evaluate my client if she was the last psychiatrist on earth.

Now that’s off my chest let’s see what today holds. Justice for Gannon!
I'd never heard of this woman until Gannon's case, and I came away with the exact same impression of her as you describe here. I very much appreciated your insight and think you did a fine job with your posts.

Now... Justice for Gannon. :)
 
  • #419
Morning all. Ahhhhhh felon Friday you can just smell it oh wait that's the defendant. .i really wanted to see the defendant on the stand just to see the prosecutor take apart everyone of her stories and maybe see Maria . I hope closing arguments are short and sweet and the jury is back within minutes . Then the defendant can just disappear in the jail system . Jmoo Finally closer for justice for Gannon .
 
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Did anyone else notice that Dr. Lewis said something to the effect that "This is going to go to appeal and then I will get the MRI scans" ? It was right before the prosecution asked her to stop talking and called for her comment to be stricken.

Isn't this her admitting that they were going to lose? That Leticia was going to be found guilty, hence the talk of appeal.
I thought I heard that too. They are already planning for appeal, and I wonder if some of what they've pulled was with that in mind.
 
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