CO - Gannon Stauch, 11, found deceased, Colorado Springs, El Paso County, 27 Jan 2020 *Arrest* #68

[nyvictoria]

Ugh. Just checked in to see the jury has gone home. I really hope they’re just tired and want to live with their guilty verdicts before finally committing on Monday.

While we’re all enjoying the weekend, Letecia will be locked up, with all of her personalities, right where she belongs.

 

[iamshadow21]

I agree with everything you all have said, and have also been thinking that logistics could play into it too, there were at least a couple of jurors who said they had school age kids, they maybe don't have the ability to stay past 5 if they need to be home for them, same goes for family in the gallery waiting, Mr Allen mentioned childcare, maybe Judge Werner sent the jury home because if they went on much past 5, or on to 7, it would be more difficult for the family to be back in court by the time a verdict was ready and then the 30 min wait etc.
I don't know it that's possible, it's just an idea.

I was surprised when the initial talk was that they were staying till 7pm, precisely because I was pretty sure we knew there were parents with kids in childcare on the jury. Them leaving at 5pm felt deflating, but I'd rather they did it right than rushed it because they had 20 minutes to pick up their kid, or something.

I want a guilty verdict, but I want it to be watertight. Every t crossed and i dotted.

MOO

 

[SleuthBee]

Just speaking to an old friend of ours, and she made a really good point. Letecia thinks she has a chance at this point, which means when the verdict comes, it will be all that more soul crushing.

I can work with that, LOL! Please tell the "Old Friend" thanks

 

[lonetraveler]

Feeling a little sick. I hope they are just tired (I'm sure they are) and that we will get the verdict we're all wishing for on Monday.

I know they are tired. I feel like I need a chiropractor for my neck from sitting in front of this laptop.

 

[lonetraveler]

I swear that I have some kind of PTSD over the Anthony verdict. Lost all confidence in juries when the case involves a child murdered by a young mom/stepmom/girlfriend. Always a squish or two, etc. who feels sympathy.
grrrrrrrrr

I know how you feel. I'll never be so trustful of juries again after that trial.

 

[10ofRods]

We can cry together.

I put on my big girl pants and made myself eat a sandwich, because I hadn't eaten all day, but once that goes down, I'm going to pull out a tub of ice cream, eat it straight out of the tub with a spoon, and salt it with my tears.

Then I'm going to watch nothing but something frivolous and easy, like Bake Off, for two days, and sleep as much as I need to, so that I can be back here, 9am sharp, on Monday morning (1am Tuesday, my time). Because there is nothing else I can do.

This is the hard part. It's an illusion that by following the case and then the trial that we could somehow control it. But this is what it's always been about. Twelve people in a room, finding the truth on behalf of all of us. We are powerless, and that is confronting. All we can do is hope, and trust. And pray, if that's your thing. Only they can do this, and it was always going to be that way.

I wish them all the strength, insight, and determination that they need to reach that verdict.

MOO

But you DID have an influence on the trial (IMO). All of us together, on SM all across the country, DID influence people (both before and after). We can't make the jury hurry up (you wouldn't be hurrying up if you were on the jury - I feel I know you well enough to say that). Sometimes juries do not disagree at all, but all take turns each giving their views (like we do here). The views add up to GUILTY - and then they can relax. Even better to sleep on it.

We are powerless now, yes. But what you've done is full of power, in reporting on this case (better than any MSM).

IMO.

 

[Walela]

Monday is 5-8-2023. 5+8+2023= 2036; 2+0+3+6= 56; 5+6=11 Gannon will forever be 11.

There have been so many instances of good overcoming evil in finding justice for Gannon...perhaps it's miracles perhaps it's coincidence. I choose to believe it is Gannon's justice. The finding of the suitcase; the cadaver dog leading to an area where LE had the "idea" to look close by and discovered the board with the missing piece; the astute neighbor that LS contacted looking for help with an alibi..she wouldn't have even known her if she hadn't been outside when the porch clothing drop-off occurred; the bizarre witness testimony of Dr. Lewis and her subsequent self impeachment..no one was expecting that; Judge W choosing the 12 who would deliberate. I'm sure there are many many more instances if I were to look more closely. I have every confidence in the chosen 12.
jmo

 

[Cindizzi]

Not very impressed with the Executive Producer of Law and Crime Network saying we can’t count on Colorado Courts . Then she says she’s just joking.
Get out of here . JMO

https://twitter.com/x/status/1654625440248795136

https://twitter.com/x/status/1654626819692437504

https://twitter.com/x/status/1654630475875643392

 

[perception≠reality]

Just speaking to an old friend of ours, and she made a really good point. Letecia thinks she has a chance at this point, which means when the verdict comes, it will be all that more soul crushing.

This perked my spirits. Let those soulless eyes of hers dance with hope for a few days. Then smash her down to Earth with the realization that she is NEVER. Leaving. Prison. Ever. Not out the front gate, anyway.

 

[SandyQLS]

I see it that way, too. Maybe they have found her Guilty of everything, but they want to sleep on it, be really sure and no discomfort, so they might as well wait until Monday. IMO if they found her NGRI that's when they would have returned already. Best advice from a friend to any juror: The only conscience you will sleep with for the rest of your life is your own. .... and JMO she is criminally Guilty as sin, and deserves LWOP+11 years in prison for Gannon and his family, with 100 years tacked on for really bad acting and damage to the mentally ill, the courts, the public.

 

[Warwick7]

Unless I dissociated I could have sworn it was like maybe 3 hours ~

(Source: I was there)

Haha


Very surprised with no verdict. Like, very very surprised.

Letecia's own attorneys probably surprised.

I'm sorry it was 4 hours.

 

[iamshadow21]

But you DID have an influence on the trial (IMO). All of us together, on SM all across the country, DID influence people (both before and after). We can't make the jury hurry up (you wouldn't be hurrying up if you were on the jury - I feel I know you well enough to say that). Sometimes juries do not disagree at all, but all take turns each giving their views (like we do here). The views add up to GUILTY - and then they can relax. Even better to sleep on it.

We are powerless now, yes. But what you've done is full of power, in reporting on this case (better than any MSM).

IMO.

No, I wouldn't be hurrying. I wouldn't necessarily be a holdout for the sake of being stubborn, but I would be that pain in the neck wanting to make a wall of crazy with all the exhibits, or pick apart the minutiae. (I wouldn't really have to in this case - Clark's timeline is SUCH a thing of beauty, it made my methodical little heart beat fast.)

I have reached a point in my life where I can label my need for control and immediate gratification and find it mildly amusing rather than excruciating, but it's still very real. I want both every box immaculately ticked and airtight AND a verdict in twenty minutes (or less). But I'll settle for at least one more day waking up in the middle of the night to hang out with all of you.

I do feel there were things I could have done better, but they would have involved impossibilities. Being able to pause and rewind and transcribe perfectly, but also be still watching in real time is the one I wanted the most through this whole thing. I'm just not fast or accurate enough, so there are many things that I missed or had to clumsily paraphrase or lose forever. Ah, well. Closest I'll ever come to writing for a living, which is all I ever wanted for a career as a wee thing. That, or get paid to collect rocks. Rocks are neat.

MOO

 

[Pianoturtle]

Because there are five different charges, with different evidence needed for each. Frankly, if I were on the jury, I'd be sure and have my notes reflect that I asked questions about each charge and properly used evidence for each.

That's just me. But it would slow some people down, for sure. Some jurors want it over ASAP. I want it done right. The two different murder charges need to have different evidence (the under 12/parent one is easy for me). I am convinced there is plenty of evidence of pre-meditation, as well, but I'd want my deliberation notes to reflect that before they go to the Judge (and a possible Appellate Court).

Wouldn't you? I know we're all baffled - but we watched the trial from home and saw lots that the jury didn't (they don't have several pairs of eyes, to be watching LS, AS, the two defense lawyers, the judge and the witnesses). I can see all of that in one glance on my computer.

I TOTALLY AGREE with you that if they don't come back with 5 guilty verdicts on Monday, I'll be devastated. OTOH, I've interviewed juries where there were weird compromises (and was on a jury with the same issue). No one needs to be convicted of TWO first degree murders (guilty! - going away for life with just one) and those who are thinking maybe she's a Sad Sack Psycho case can feel that at least their own conscience is in consideration.

My big question is what happens if she's found NGRI on Count 1, but not on the other four. She'll go to prison to serve her term for the four convictions and THEN to Pueblo State MH? Or the other way around? (I suppose "the other way around" makes more sense from a psychiatric point of view).

But I've interviewed jurors where one juror was kind of a hold-out, but was brought into the fold of unanimity by dropping one charge/finding one charge NG. I've never interviewed anyone on a NGRI case, though.

IMO.

The 5th charge, Child abuse resulting in death IIRC, was dropped at the beginning of the trial.

 

[Love Never Fails]

Just speaking to an old friend of ours, and she made a really good point. Letecia thinks she has a chance at this point, which means when the verdict comes, it will be all that more soul crushing.

Tell our old friend we miss the wisdom, and the posts.
Thanks for posting. I feel somewhat better.

 

[kaen]

I had hoped the verdict would be in today. I would imagine they have lots to go through and if it was a straight guilty on murder without the insanity issue they would have been done. The idea of insanity complicates the discussion. I think they need time to sort through each count carefully and methodically.

With Alex M trial, there were tons of pundits calling it not guilty but so many of us looked at what was presented and knew it would go against him. I think this trial is going to be the same.

 

[10ofRods]

The 5th charge, Child abuse resulting in death IIRC, was dropped at the beginning of the trial.

Thank you. So 4 X however long they decide to deliberate per charge. The fact that two of the charges overlap (and have LWOP consequences) might cause some jurors to deliberate longer.

I'm sad that fifth charge was dropped, though.

 

[10ofRods]

Tell our old friend we miss the wisdom, and the posts.
Thanks for posting. I feel somewhat better.

And the keen and incisive sense of humor. Tell our old friend that, as well.

 

[lonetraveler]

Because there are five different charges, with different evidence needed for each. Frankly, if I were on the jury, I'd be sure and have my notes reflect that I asked questions about each charge and properly used evidence for each.

That's just me. But it would slow some people down, for sure. Some jurors want it over ASAP. I want it done right. The two different murder charges need to have different evidence (the under 12/parent one is easy for me). I am convinced there is plenty of evidence of pre-meditation, as well, but I'd want my deliberation notes to reflect that before they go to the Judge (and a possible Appellate Court).

Wouldn't you? I know we're all baffled - but we watched the trial from home and saw lots that the jury didn't (they don't have several pairs of eyes, to be watching LS, AS, the two defense lawyers, the judge and the witnesses). I can see all of that in one glance on my computer.

I TOTALLY AGREE with you that if they don't come back with 5 guilty verdicts on Monday, I'll be devastated. OTOH, I've interviewed juries where there were weird compromises (and was on a jury with the same issue). No one needs to be convicted of TWO first degree murders (guilty! - going away for life with just one) and those who are thinking maybe she's a Sad Sack Psycho case can feel that at least their own conscience is in consideration.

My big question is what happens if she's found NGRI on Count 1, but not on the other four. She'll go to prison to serve her term for the four convictions and THEN to Pueblo State MH? Or the other way around? (I suppose "the other way around" makes more sense from a psychiatric point of view).

But I've interviewed jurors where one juror was kind of a hold-out, but was brought into the fold of unanimity by dropping one charge/finding one charge NG. I've never interviewed anyone on a NGRI case, though.

IMO.

I've never followed a NGRI case before. I knew it was going to be difficult deciding if she was insane based upon the "expert" defense witness.

 

[iamshadow21]

Thank you. So 4 X however long they decide to deliberate per charge. The fact that two of the charges overlap (and have LWOP consequences) might cause some jurors to deliberate longer.

I'm sad that fifth charge was dropped, though.

I do wonder if they'd been able to prove the burns, whether they would have let it stand.

We have him crying about them, and LS saying he had them (but she lies about everything), but he was out there in the elements for too long, unfortunately. And I trust that if the ME could have found them, she would have. They knew about the video, knew about the potential for burns long before he was found. They would have been looking.

Ah, well, we'll never know. And it shouldn't affect the verdict that it's been dropped.

MOO

 

[SleuthBee]

We can cry together.

I put on my big girl pants and made myself eat a sandwich, because I hadn't eaten all day, but once that goes down, I'm going to pull out a tub of ice cream, eat it straight out of the tub with a spoon, and salt it with my tears.

Then I'm going to watch nothing but something frivolous and easy, like Bake Off, for two days, and sleep as much as I need to, so that I can be back here, 9am sharp, on Monday morning (1am Tuesday, my time). Because there is nothing else I can do.

This is the hard part. It's an illusion that's easy to believe that by following the case and then the trial that we could somehow control it. But this is what it's always been about. Twelve people in a room, finding the truth on behalf of all of us. We are powerless, and that is confronting. All we can do is hope, and trust. And pray, if that's your thing. Only they can do this, and it was always going to be that way.

I wish them all the strength, insight, and determination that they need to reach that verdict.

MOO

@iamshadow21
Awww, you're so sweet! Well, I am eating a sandwich and drinking beer. But a tub of ice cream sounds good too!

I think most of us following this case are invested emotionally. And for all that is painful, deceptive, manipulative, hurtful, unjust, and pure evil in this case, I hoped for a "slam dunk", immediate and "slap her in the face" verdict as a cure. Silly me.

Like you, I will put my big girl pants on and consider the wise voices of reason from the members of this forum.

((thank you))