CO - Gannon Stauch, 11, found deceased, Colorado Springs, El Paso County, 27 Jan 2020 *Arrest* #68

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  • #461
I was hoping to see a guilty verdict when I woke up this morning. I’m trying to stay positive and put it down to the fact that the 12 jurors haven’t been able to speak a word about what they’ve seen over the last few weeks.

I could see it taking them 4 hours just to discuss the crackpot Lewis. Imagine having sat there for all that time not able to discuss the case with anyone, then suddenly you are able to talk about everything. Some jurors have probably taken notes aswell which they might want to go through with the others. They might have then discussed the definition of insanity, which some might interpret differently to others. They will need to go through each charge and discuss what evidence they’ve heard for each one. Will they have had to choose a foreperson aswell? 12 people wanting the chance to put their point across, I can see it taking time to get round to everyone.

I’m hoping by 11am Monday we have a verdict, if it gets past lunch on Monday then I’ll start to worry about a hold out.

Once the jury leave that room with a verdict there won’t be chance for them to all get together again and talk about what they’ve seen. It’s not the same going home and telling your partner etc about the evidence you’ve heard, the other jurors are the only ones who’ve seen the same evidence you have, especially if they have built up a friendship over the last few weeks they’ll all want to talk before going their seperate ways. It’s not to say that most if not all already know how they want to vote, it’s just nice to finally be able to talk about it all IMO.
 
  • #462
Still here for Gannon.

May the jurors weigh the evidence in this case and find this defendant Guilty. I'm a little disappointed we didn't get a verdict by end of day yesterday, but perhaps they are really going through all the evidence closely. On the other hand, maybe there is a sympathetic juror who is unsure.

Whatever the case may be, hopefully Monday will be a resolution to this circus show known as 'the defendant'. I refuse to even type her name, like AS she doesn't deserve to be called anything other than defendant.

#Justice4Gannon

MOO
 
  • #463
I choose to look at this another way. These jurors have given up 6 weeks of their lives. Who could blame them, if on a Friday, they deliberated fast so they could all go home for the weekend, put this all behind them and get back to their lives, get back to their jobs. Back to work Monday.

Instead, they've done right by Gannon. 6 weeks and a day. An extra day to be thorough. Cover every detail, review the evidence. If you ask me, this tells me three things about this jury: 1. They are touched by Divine intervention. 2. They take their role seriously. 3. They elected the right foreperson, one who is exceptionally judicious.

This isn't about T. This is about Gannon. That they are willing to extend their jury duty over a weekend into the next week tells me they are dedicated. Dedicated to doing right by Gannon.

Gannon deserves nothing less.

Jmo
 
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I too woke up feeling a bit disappointed that no verdict was reached yesterday. Not for me. For Al and Landen. Another weekend away from their loved ones in honor of the son they lost to this evil witch. But if by being so thorough it will avoid the chance of a mistrial or wrong verdict…then by all means come back on Monday after an arduous 7 weeks of hard work and let the SUN begin to shine again on these broken hearts.
 
  • #466
I didn't know this but, The jury deliberated for about 26 hours before reaching its decision in the Jodi Arias trial. Jodi Arias will spend life in prison, not because of a jury sentence, but because a jury could not reach a unanimous verdict on whether to sentence her to death for the murder for her lover, Travis Alexander.

So they all knew she was guilty, just didn't know how to go about it.
 
  • #467
I didn't know this but, The jury deliberated for about 26 hours before reaching its decision in the Jodi Arias trial. Jodi Arias will spend life in prison, not because of a jury sentence, but because a jury could not reach a unanimous verdict on whether to sentence her to death for the murder for her lover, Travis Alexander.

So they all knew she was guilty, just didn't know how to go about it.
Thanks for that reminder.
 
  • #468
The one thing I had hoped that the prosecution would have hit more on in this trial was the issue of the burns, which I think gave her the impetus to kill him.

If she had burned him or, even, if he had burned himself, her marriage was over, not by her own decision to flounce away from AS but because he would have left her. He cared deeply about honesty and safety. When he came home, he would have heard the truth about her behavior and he would not have stood for hurting the kids (even HH) or her lies/deceit. Depending on the circumstances, AS might have called the police and she would lose her teaching certification. She did not want ever to lose control.

After she realized how hurt Gannon was, I think she believed the only way to escape from being held accountable was to have him disappear.

She was tired of caring for the kids and AS. She thought she was going to have a life where she was taken care of. All of her searches for her life was fantasy/glamour and/or being taken care of. She got the EdD because it was prestige and signified something that she felt would garner her respect and a cushy job. She loved the cruise because it signified that importance of life-- better than what she had before AS. She loved the trips that had previously taken for the same reason. Gannon's needs were the exact opposite of what she envisioned. She never felt appreciated for time, effort and sacrifice. She became an injustice collector and hurt him.
 
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Justice is coming for Gannon!
 
  • #470
The first of the cornflowers by my garden path started to open today - they should all be blooming on Monday.
 
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  • #473
So we know she has a personality disorder, if they find her NGRI, they cant treat that in the hospital. They cant treat DID in a hospital either. So whats the point? imo

Will she be able to get out when shes "stable"?
 
  • #474
Gannon, imo, looks very much like his mom. I believe this also fueled LS’s resentment and hatred towards him.

I recall during the early weeks of the investigation when LS social media was still active, she posted a video of a waving Gannon running and jumping into the water. It was later not viewable, perhaps deleted by her. Imo, that was intentional, him waving goodbye to everyone, as his body was decomposing in the FL heat in a suitcase. Wow. *imo (not *lol- autocorrect)
 
  • #475
They had to eat. That took awhile..
Then they spoke for the first time, all 12 together..
and had to elect a foreman, I don't know what methodology is used for that process.

Then they had to divide 60 pieces of paper between 12 of them..
That bit alone would take me forever..

Then discuss each piece, 12 opinions on each piece.. still new to each other..

Coffee break, more relaxed now with each other, chatting and joking, maybe...??

Then back to the pieces of paper

90 minutes lunch?

30 minute coffee break?
30 minutes trying to figure out how to elect a foreman/
12 opinions on everything..

Realistically the prosecution handed them everything on a plate leaving no room or very miniscule amounts of room for debate, should have been quick.

I'd say by lunchtime on Monday it will be sorted or there's a problem.

I can't imagine what that problem might be.

Is that over simplistic?


I believed that a verdict would come in.
It could be as simple as a juror wanting to get home because they wanted to nurse a headache before making a choice, maybe one did have a child that needed to get home because of an upset stomach, or perhaps they all felt that taking the weekend to rest and show up to court refreshed and with clear minds would be the best way to continue.

There are so many different situations that could explain the lack of a decision.

The jury has been patient and dedicated overall. Now, we must reciprocate and have faith.

JMO
 
  • #476
So we know she has a personality disorder, if they find her NGRI, they cant treat that in the hospital. They cant treat DID in a hospital either. So whats the point? imo

Will she be able to get out when shes "stable"?

The goal would be to "manage" the patient in a psych hospital - and there are treatments (not cures) for the symptoms of most PD's (the symptoms that cause problems inside of institutions, anyway).

And YES, she would be able to get out if her team at the Pueblo State Hospital ever deems her sane again. That's why so many of us are hoping and praying for a Guilty verdict.

If this high profile case allows BPD as Insanity, that's very troubling to me. I think CO law is specific that a character disorder is not insanity; personality is by definition a "chronic" ongoing condition - having an impulsive, brutal, manipulative personality (whatever we want to call it) is not the "mental defect" that I think CO law intends.

Whatever is wrong with T., it's chronic and probably lifelong, and dangerous. But she will pretend to be sane, as she has done in the past.

I think she has a group of personality disorders, constituting something like "psychopathy" (not a DSM diagnosis - but definitely a word to describe T.) I was glad the State brought in Antisocial PD (I think they said their first expert said she scored high on that scale) because CO specifically excludes a longterm condition of moral depravity or lawbreaking NOT to be a sign of insanity.

Repeated criminal behavior is not considered insanity in CO. Someone please rephrase this or refine it, as needed. I'm no expert in CO law, that's for sure.

So IMO.
 
  • #477
The one thing I had hoped that the prosecution would have hit more on in this trial was the issue of the burns, which I think gave her the impetus to kill him.

If she had burned him or, even, if he had burned himself, her marriage was over, not by her own decision to flounce away from AS but because he would have left her. He cared deeply about honesty and safety. When he came home, he would have heard the truth about her behavior and he would not have stood for hurting the kids (even HH) or her lies/deceit. Depending on the circumstances, AS might have called the police and she would lose her teaching certification. She did not want ever to lose control.

After she realized how hurt Gannon was, I think she believed the only way to escape from being held accountable was to have him disappear.

She was tired of caring for the kids and AS. She thought she was going to have a life where she was taken care of. All of her searches for her life was fantasy/glamour and/or being taken care of. She got the EdD because it was prestige and signified something that she felt would garner her respect and a cushy job. She loved the cruise because it signified that importance of life-- better than what she had before AS. She loved the trips that had previously taken for the same reason. Gannon's needs were the exact opposite of what she envisioned. She never felt appreciated for time, effort and sacrifice. She became an injustice collector and hurt him.


Yes, I think you're spot on.

Except I think the fire was intentional. Abd secondary.

I think what started the chain of evil is the injury to Gannon's face. Split lip, possibly a broken nose. To keep him quiet, she may have given him the narcotics. Wrapped him up tight and tried to light him on fire. He woke up out of a drugged sleep to that IMO.... And she manipulated him into confessing "it" was his fault somehow.... she was not concerned with poor G or his injuries, only how she was going to explain it to AS and how she night twist it to her advantage. One constant with T -- always spinning.

And because Gannon was a fighter, by the tine of that horrid video, IMO he had already survived a punch/backhand to the face, oxy, fire and about 5 years of T. More suffering than anyone should endure.

And it only got worse from there.

Jmo
 
  • #478
Ian Huntley was the one that had me on the edge of the seat.

It was Alesha MacPhail for me, the case that brought me to WS. I was so worried that one of the jurors might believe his ridiculous story as to how his DNA got on her body. Thankfully they saw exactly what he is!.

Our mutual friend also expressed confidence that with every minute the jury is out deliberating her fate, Letecia's anxiety level is increasing exponentially.

The proverbial sword is now dangling over her head.

All she can do is sit helplessly and wait for it to fall.

The anticipation is killing her.

Slowly.

It feels like she should be here with us in the thread for the guilty verdict :(
 
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  • #479
Gannon, imo, looks very much like his mom. I believe this also fueled LS’s resentment and hatred towards him.

I recall during the early weeks of the investigation when LS social media was still active, she posted a video of a waving Gannon running and jumping into the water. It was later not viewable, perhaps deleted by her. Imo, that was intentional, him waving goodbye to everyone, as his body was decomposing in the FL heat in a suitcase. Wow. *imo (not *lol- autocorrect)
That was especially cruel when she posted that video. She actually made it her profile picture ( except it was video).

Around that same time she also changed her location on FB to Texas ( I think Dallas- but definitely a city in Texas). She knew from social media and her phone calls with AS that LH was in Texas with her Aunt.



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  • #480
The goal would be to "manage" the patient in a psych hospital - and there are treatments (not cures) for the symptoms of most PD's (the symptoms that cause problems inside of institutions, anyway).

And YES, she would be able to get out if her team at the Pueblo State Hospital ever deems her sane again. That's why so many of us are hoping and praying for a Guilty verdict.

If this high profile case allows BPD as Insanity, that's very troubling to me. I think CO law is specific that a character disorder is not insanity; personality is by definition a "chronic" ongoing condition - having an impulsive, brutal, manipulative personality (whatever we want to call it) is not the "mental defect" that I think CO law intends.

Whatever is wrong with T., it's chronic and probably lifelong, and dangerous. But she will pretend to be sane, as she has done in the past.

I think she has a group of personality disorders, constituting something like "psychopathy" (not a DSM diagnosis - but definitely a word to describe T.) I was glad the State brought in Antisocial PD (I think they said their first expert said she scored high on that scale) because CO specifically excludes a longterm condition of moral depravity or lawbreaking NOT to be a sign of insanity.

Repeated criminal behavior is not considered insanity in CO. Someone please rephrase this or refine it, as needed. I'm no expert in CO law, that's for sure.

So IMO.
I was going to tag you into my post, but I couldnt edit and didnt want to dp.

So basically they would treat her personality disorder symptoms? I agree she has mutiple of them.

I did not know she could get out when deemed "sane". Thats scary to me. Knowing the injuries she gave Gannon, and the monster can incident, she is dangerous. She needs to be locked up, but also away from people.
 
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