CO - Gannon Stauch, 11, found deceased, Colorado Springs, El Paso County, 27 Jan 2020 *Arrest* #68

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  • #781
Why didn’t the Prosecution enter in more detail about how Leticia abused Gannon? As I recall, there was a letter from Laina and a friend of Gannon’s saying he was abused by her. Dr. Lewis kept saying, this was a child she loved. Ummmm….there was evidence she did not love him
 
  • #782
I agree... I interpret the request as trying to determin if she ever definitively stated a reason for her "diagnosis" so that they can move on and disregard Lewis as credible.
@JusCurious I share your thoughts as well. The difference between a preliminary and a final report is the physician's validation of the results. In my experience, my reason for reviewing both reports is to evaluate edits, changes or addendums as any must be documented. In this case, my first thought was they are questioning Dr. Lewis's findings. Of course, I could be wrong.
 
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Gannon's voice will not be silenced. Gannon was heard under the bridge and will be heard when the verdict is read. moo
 

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We may be waiting a long time...

This weekend I felt compelled to reread Girl, Interrupted which is available for free as an ebook at readanybook.com. This is the personal non-fiction account of a young woman hospitalized for 18 months with a diagnosis of BPD and she was clearly having a psychotic breakdown. She describes seeing faces as lumps of clay, but objects have life and animation. The floor tile patterns disturb her and she cannot tolerate looking at them. She gnawed her hand to bleeding because she wanted to check to see if her bones were really in there. She was 18 years old. The movie was good, but IMO the book really exposes her BPD thinking and psychotic break better.

JMO but people who are so impaired by BPD or DID will encounter the mental health system between age 15-25. In a cruel twist, if successful in leaving the abusive home of origin to enter young adulthood, a person might achieve just enough safety that repressed memories of early abuse flood or swamp the individual and they end up in a hospital. BPD "transient psychotic thinking" or "psychotic breakdown" or a DID "amnesiac state" or "alter personality" that is so severe that a person at age 36 murdered their 11 year stepson by multiple means over 24 hours - JMO this is a person with a long mental health history, and a person who would be in need of hospitalization in the aftermath, not a cross country trip to dump the concealed body and then just moving on to a new life. All MOO

Exactly, there have been many other defendants who didn’t get found NGRI who had a very well documented history of mental illness. T has nothing except a bit of anxiety. Nothing even suggesting DID in her past, and her actions before and after murdering Gannon were of someone extremely calculated, who knew what they were doing, knew they needed to cover up what they’d done and knew to spin lies to everyone to try and hide her actions like T did.

Most of the time in a genuine NGRI case, a defendant will walk right up to police, or call 911 and confess to what they’ve done. When an insane person has killed a child in their care, 9/10 when they come out of their episode they are horrified by what they’ve done and beg for forgiveness, some can’t even live with themselves. I think of Christina Riggs, although she wasn’t found NGRI, she was sentenced to death as that’s what she asked for, she wanted to be dead to be with her children, she’d made a failed suicide attempt immediately after killing them. She then dropped all her appeals and was executed, very soon after her conviction for a death penalty case too. IMO that’s the signs of someone mentally ill who cannot live with what they’ve done while their weren’t in their right mind. T continues to show absolutely no remorse. If she was disgusted by what she’d done to gannon, apologetic and acknowledging what she did from the start I’d find NGRI easier to believe. It’s her actions after and even now that convince me she’s absolutely sane.
All MOO
 
  • #785
Got it in one. Can’t say much more as don’t think they are an approved source here but the things I’ve seen are sickening.

Hoping this jury get it right, they haven’t even been deliberating long but feels like an eternity even for us, can’t imagine how Gannon’s family must be feeling :(

Yeah, I have no good words for her!. Her fb group is disgusting and she is a disgrace. MOO.

I know, it feels like forever but I get the feeling that they didn't even start until this morning.
 
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I was randomly singing "maria, maria" by Santana over the weekend and it took me a minute to figure out why that earworm was stuck in my head. Haha

For me it was Blondie's Maria. I'm glad The Sound of Music left my mind (I love it, but not on instant brain replay).
 
  • #788
Yeah, I have no good words for her!. Her fb group is disgusting and she is a disgrace. MOO.

I know, it feels like forever but I get the feeling that they didn't even start until this morning.
To be frank, I would have needed a weekend to recover from Dr Lewis on the stand for two days, too.

I think they talked openly and free-form about the case for a few hours over lunch, and went into the weekend with the resolution to get down to business when they'd all had a chance to reset and recover and be able to give it their full attention. Smart.

MOO
 
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possible reasons for the jurors wanting a copy of Lewis’ “reports”:
  1. Want to look for inconsistencies between the first and second reports
  2. Want to look for inconsistencies between the reports and the garbage she spilled on the stand
  3. Want to use the reports to make sense of the aforesaid garbage
  4. Want to look at the “voice” of the reports and consider who wrote them - Lewis? Her son? Tolini? Maria?
  5. Want to count the number of times she used the words I and me
  6. Want to send them for a psychiatric assessment of Lewis
  7. Want a good laugh before getting down to deliberations
  8. Are cold and need kindling for the fireplace in the jury room
moo
 
  • #791
BBM

People v. Stauch: Closing arguments have been made and jury deliberations are underway. Once the jury has reached a verdict, the Court will read the verdict 30 minutes later. Notice of a verdict will be sent from this account.

 
  • #792
I agree... I interpret the request as trying to determin if she ever definitively stated a reason for her "diagnosis" so that they can move on and disregard Lewis as credible.
Yes.

Psychotic defendants who sit under counsel table, babbling incoherently, are still found guilty. The way she talked after shows someone who knows what they did and is trying to evade. And was she psychotic when she moved the body? Lied to everyone?

Psychotics call the police to report what they did, or wander naked down the street after killing someone. I don’t think the jury will find her NGRI.
 
  • #793
Love seeing all of the support for Gannon outside of the courthouse.
 
  • #794
Interesting you made a comparison to a character played by Helena Bonham Carter. Bonham Carter also played Marla in "Fight Club." Another movie portraying DID.
Aside: Helena Bonham Carter’s mother is a psychotherapist, and she has openly discussed researching characters with her.
 
  • #795
Love seeing all of the support for Gannon outside of the courthouse.
It gives me a renewed hope in humanity. Following this trial and the LVD trial has made me feel quite cynical, and it’s good to be reminded that there are good people in the world – lots of them. So wonderful that so many people who never even knew Gannon have just shown this endless outpouring of love and support
 
  • #796
So Tommy Hennis was tried 4 times, There was a guy in Arkansas ,Last name Dunn I think he had 3 mistrials. 3 mistrials and I think they cant bring you back with the same charges. Tommy was convicted in military court on his 4th trial the other 3 were regular court. Then there is Phylisha Barns case in Maryland convicted, granted a new trial and charges dropped (seems like he just got off on a murder conviction because the jury found him guilty but..Ya lets not think about these things right now.
Do you mean Timothy Bailey Hennis?
 
  • #797
I have my TV muted. Just walked through the room and saw this :

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  • #798
Jury deliberation one hour and 15 minutes today. moo
I am here with all of you today !!!

Trying to refresh site every so often while I am working.

I am not on edge of seat yet, but pretty sure I will be along with the nail biting by end of the day :P

#JUSTICE4GANNON
 
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I also appreciate the multiple users who have been sharing pictures of Gannon. A lot of them are pictures I had never seen before. I can tell how loved he was by his family. There is nothing that could make this less horrific or upsetting, but it brings me comfort to know that Gannon’s short life was filled with lots of love and lots of smiles.
 
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