CO - James Holmes Trial Discussion - Begins April 27, 2015 #14

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Leadem said it took an hour and 5 minutes to get from the jail to the hospital anica.padilla
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The Gold Patrol® ‏@thegoldpatrol · 37s38 seconds ago
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Took JH back to jail 1.5 hours later
 
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I'm going to say it again. What has this got to do with his behaviour on the run up to and during July 2012???!!!


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Will C. Holden ‏@will_c_holden · 1m1 minute ago
Leadem to #theatershooting def: I told Holmes to say "You can't teach old dog new tricks" to see if he slurred. He didn't & repeated phrase
 
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I'm going to say it again. What has this got to do with his behaviour on the run up to and during July 2012???!!!


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I think that is what Mr. Orman was trying to point out ---- he was going for July and August behaviors---so........
 
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The Gold Patrol® ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
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10 min vitals were normal except fast heart rate but eventually went to normal in ambulance

Larry Ryckman ‏@larryryckman · 1m1 minute ago
JH repeated phrase "You can't teach an old dog new trips" during his ambulance ride after Leadem asked him to say it once. #TheaterShooting
 
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I think that is what Mr. Orman was trying to point out ---- he was going for July and August behaviors---so........

The jury has to see this is designed to mislead them. There is ZERO evidence that JH was behaving in this way before, during and directly after the shooting.


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The Gold Patrol® ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
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Observation of JH was 3 hours. Witness has observed many patients. Some exaggerate symptoms
 
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The Gold Patrol® ‏@thegoldpatrol · 2m2 minutes ago
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Pros asks if JH exaggerated symptoms. Defense objects - sidebar
 
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The jury has to see this is designed to mislead them. There is ZERO evidence that JH was behaving in this way before, during and directly after the shooting.


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this is just odd going thru November like that was the month it all happened in....Just don't buy what they are attempting to sell
 
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this is just odd going thru November like that was the month it all happened in....Just don't buy what they are attempting to sell

Exactly! I hope the jury don't start to muddle this up in their minds when they start to deliberate.


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Def. making such a big deal about him walking with or without assistance, 3 feet to the gurney! Must've said it over 10 times! Focusing too much on something that has no bearing on July 20th. tsk, IMO
 
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Anica Padilla ‏@AnicaPadilla · 1m1 minute ago
#TheaterShooting Trial: Defense objects to question about whether the gunman's actions seemed exaggerated in the ambulance.

The Gold Patrol® ‏@thegoldpatrol · 3m3 minutes ago
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Judge won’t allow ? about JH exaggerating symptoms

The Gold Patrol® ‏@thegoldpatrol · 3m3 minutes ago
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Pros: JH was ambulatory

A: Yes

Jury has ?’s
 
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JH is not swaying in his chair...he appears to do this when upset.
 
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Apparently there's also something called "Brief Psychotic Disorder" & this website says "individuals with Schizotypal or Borderline Personality Disorder are more likely to develop this disorder". http://www.mentalhealth.com/home/dx/briefpsychotic.html

Yes it does happen, but it falls under the spectrum of those personality disorders in that they are manipulative in order to get either attention or to ACT crazy often to get some drugs or feign symptoms ( malingering) to prove some point..as in JH's case Def. stradegy of insanity that somehow can get linked back to actual crime he's in so much trouble for.

Much of his behaviour inside jail the first 3 1/2 months was no different than he had been prior to massacre. The professors, his fellow graduates, acquaintances all pretty well described him as quiet, avoiding conversation, socially awkward. He never as it appears to be a social person...Pretty well lived inside his own mind and thoughts..and yes..no doubt thought things outside of the box..BUT then again he was rather high IQ brainy..so wasn't interested in dealing with those other people who were all lesser than himself.
 
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The Gold Patrol® ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
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Jury?: Did he get on stretcher inside or outside cell?

A: Outside

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 58s59 seconds ago
JQ- did JH get on stretcher out of cell or in cell? Out of cell #TheaterShooting #TheaterTrial
 
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Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 54s55 seconds ago
Elizabeth Lowdermilk is on the stand. She's a psychiatrist for Denver Health #TheaterShooting #TheaterTrial
 
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Larry Ryckman ‏@larryryckman · 3m3 minutes ago
Next #TheaterShooting witness: Elizabeth Lowdermilk, psychiatrist at Denver Health
 
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Where has Mr Brauchler gone? I wonder if he is meeting with the person who will decide whether these charts can be admitted.


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