CO - James Holmes Trial Discussion - Begins April 27, 2015 #15

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  • #581
a few seconds ago

Dr. Gur: "The CAT scan was done in the fall of 2012, following a change in mental status... The CAT scan ruled out any structural lesion... as a consequence of falling off the bed."
It was a "normal" scan anica.padilla

Larry Ryckman ‏@larryryckman · 57s58 seconds ago
Gur is speaking about CT scan in fall of 2012 after JH hit his head in jail. CT scan ruled out bleeding in brain. #theatershooting
 
  • #582
Sometimes they bring it up---especially when they want to point out "hired gun" theory---

Mr. King needs to reign her in---make her sit down, we are not in a classroom
I was just starting a post to say 'she thinks she's in a classroom'!! LOL

King feels he needs to educate the jury on schizophrenia, in order for his client not to be accountable for his massacre. It should have been done with a witness who knows how to act in a courtroom. Short, factual statements clearly stated would have been much more effective. It could not have been done with Gur.
 
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Larry Ryckman ‏@larryryckman · 2m2 minutes ago
Gur is telling #theatershooting jurors how brain is "bathing" in cerebral spinal fluid that is protective, and transfers nutrients

Larry Ryckman ‏@larryryckman · 1m1 minute ago
Now talking about an MRI performed on JH on April 5, 2015.#theatershooting

Larry Ryckman ‏@larryryckman · 1m1 minute ago
Gur is using the taped-together pointer to describe the MRI procedure to #theatershooting jurors
 
  • #584
My son had enlarged ventricles when I was pregnant. They said he would have some kind of special needs. He has Autism.


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Larry Ryckman ‏@larryryckman · 2m2 minutes ago
An MRI will help measure brain volume and an image of the brain structure, Gur says. She first looks at a "normal" brain. #theatershooting
 
  • #586
JH seems to be doing a good job of not moving trying to play the role the doctor describes. Too bad she does not see him laugh and chat with his team.
 
  • #587
My son had enlarged ventricles when I was pregnant. They said he would have some kind of special needs. He has Autism.


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My niece is autistic---I'm sure my sister in law blames my family---
 
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Larry Ryckman ‏@larryryckman · 3m3 minutes ago
Gur notes that the MRI can detect shrinkage in the brain that the human eye can't detect. #theatershooting

a few seconds ago

Dr. Gur says the gunman's brain measures were compared to 79 'healthy' individuals. There were "several significant differences."
1. The right frontal orbital part of the brain (important for emotional processing) was 3 standard deviation below healthy people.
2. The amygdala (important hub for emotion processing) was 2 standard deviations below average.
3. The right medial frontal lobe is 2 standard deviations below average. anica.padilla
 
  • #589
My niece is autistic---I'm sure my sister in law blames my family---

That's sad. It doesn't help the situation when people throw blame about.

Mind you, I like to blame my husband when I'm being mean :D


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Larry Ryckman ‏@larryryckman · 2m2 minutes ago
Gur says JH brain scans showed a decrease in his brain volume, brain structures that affect emotional processing. #theatershooting
 
  • #591
That's sad. It doesn't help the situation when people throw blame about.

Mind you, I like to blame my husband when I'm being mean :D


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well they are always wrong to a point..... :blushing:
 
  • #592
Just looking at GB's Twitter page. It doesn't look like he has tweeted anything in a month.


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Will C. Holden ‏@will_c_holden · 1m1 minute ago
Dr. Gur: Holmes' post-#theatershooting MRI in '15 showed right frontal orbital, medial & amygdala brain areas=2 std devs or more below mean

Anica Padilla ‏@AnicaPadilla · 1m1 minute ago
#TheaterShooting trial: Dr. Gur discussing the gunman’s family history of schizophrenia.
WATCH: http://bit.ly/7NEWStheatertrial …

7NEWS Denver Channel ‏@DenverChannel · 2m2 minutes ago
#TheaterShooting trial: Dr. Gur discussing the gunman’s family history of schizophrenia.
WATCH: http://bit.ly/7NEWStheatertrial
 
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Will C. Holden ‏@will_c_holden · 1m1 minute ago
Gur: Inferior parts of Holmes' post-#theatershooting brain (areas that vary 2 std devs+ from healthy brains) control emotion/decision-making

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Dr. Gur interviewed the gunman's parents on Nov. 19, 2014. anica.padilla
 
  • #595
Ugh! Having trouble copying tweets!

I'm trying to say if JH still thinks about 'human capital' he should never be freed!

If he is indeed schizophrenic, the good Doc says it will always be there.... so yes, he needs to be kept from being out in the world as long as he breathes. If I understood correctly early on in this case, if he does receive NGRI, he must be kept in an institution and not be allowed in public for whatever amount of time. So he doesn't get a walk... That thought keeps me from screaming and getting on the going-to-the-moon bus.
 
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Larry Ryckman ‏@larryryckman · 1m1 minute ago
Next, Gur will talk about JH's childhood. #theatershooting

7NEWS Denver Channel ‏@DenverChannel · 1m1 minute ago
#TheaterShooting: Dr. Gur testifying how about her interview with the gunman's parents on Nov. 19, 2014.
WATCH LIVE: http://bit.ly/7NEWStheatertrial …

(they make it sound promising---don't list how painful it is to get answers....)
 
  • #597
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Dr. Gur asked the gunman's parents about his behavior as a child. "They indicated a change - there is a variability among children... there was nothing in his behavior to cause them alarm." anica.padilla
 
  • #598
If I was on the jury I would be daydreaming about my lunch .......


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  • #599
Friends, I think King is going to go all day with her.
 
  • #600
there is some important connection/disconnect re sister. Wish we knew what it is. Not getting the real deal imo

As soon as I posted that, I remembered the Doc say that not everyone wanted to speak with her about JH. It may be that the sister did not want to -- IIRC, Mr. K did not ask why or anymore about her.

But yes, I think there is something there. No doc, as I recall, mentioned JH talking in any detail about his sister, but I could have missed it.
 
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