CO - James Holmes Trial Discussion - Begins April 27, 2015 # 4

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  • #141
I read here he is on Haldol - an antipsychotic medication

It is used in the treatment of schizophrenia, acute psychosis, mania, delirium, tics in Tourette syndrome, choreas, nausea and vomiting in palliative care, intractable hiccups, agitation and severe anxiety.[3][4] A long-acting formulation is used as an injection every four weeks in people with schizophrenia or related illnesses who either forget or refuse to take the oral form
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haloperidol

Not sure if it is a ploy or necessary. Not sure who could decide that. I just did a quick search to see if I could find a link to back up the claim he is on this medication. I came up with an article that had some information I hadn't read. It may be old news to y'all, but I still found it interesting...so I am sharing.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/cri...victims-recall-murder-spree-article-1.2203592

I still firmly believe - and it will take a lot of information to get me to not believe it - that he was essentially faking his insanity. I could be wrong (wouldn't be the first time) and of course, I don't matter. He just had too much knowledge based on his extended education on how one could/would act/react. IMO and all of that...

Thank you so much for the info and the links!! :)
 
  • #142
Does anyone know what type meds he is on? (referring to that he is quite in his chair)

I know I can take a 0.5 MG Lorazepam and it makes me sleepy :) But, I am sure he is on some heavy duty drugs!

It all seems so planned and I am finding it very hard wrap my mind around that insanity caused this...
Would they let JH stand trial if he was insane? Is his condition curable IF he is insane?
I wish I understood how he can claim insanity at the time of the shootings. If he was totally drunk or
High on drugs would it give him a pass as insanity would? He planned for weeks and weeks
And handled himself like a normal person during that time or someone would have called him on
It I think. Wonder what the jury's take is at this point.
I love this no nonsense but friendly court in Colorado.

Hope everyone had a Great Mothers Day!!!!!

Thank You to everyone posting that helps me follow this trial in between playtime and naps and diaper changes. Lol
 
  • #143
There's definitely temporary insanity. If he was supposed to be on meds and didn't take them or was prescribed any at all and needed them.


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  • #144
I guess I am terribly confused by what 'insane' means at the time of the crime.

The only experience I have ever had with the 'insane' was my mother in laws' sister. She was in the state mental hospital and she was a wild women! When she was in her normal mode she came and lived with my MIL and FIL. She would clean, cook and do other chores. I was there one day and she went into one of her 'spells'...she was totally out of control and hit, bit, kicked, tore things up. I help my MIL take her to the ER and she tried jumping out of the vehicle, hitting us, and so on...She scared me!

Now this was many years ago and I know times have changed dealing with insanity. So, I think I will read more about insanity and wait till the defense puts on their case.
 
  • #145
Not sure if i read it here or did i dream it. Was there not a phone call with JH and one of his Parents the day of his shooting rampage? A call reported to have been seemingly "normal conversation" TIA
 
  • #146
Not sure if i read it here or did i dream it. Was there not a phone call with JH and one of his Parents the day of his shooting rampage? A call reported to have been seemingly "normal conversation" TIA
gm bravo :seeya: i seem to recall from posting tweets, it was a mother's day call and it was reported to be a perfectly normal conversation.......hope that helps :)
 
  • #147
Not sure if i read it here or did i dream it. Was there not a phone call with JH and one of his Parents the day of his shooting rampage? A call reported to have been seemingly "normal conversation" TIA

Not sure about that.

But after hearing/reading the transcript of his 38 minute interview with the FBI Bomb Tech...he didn't sound insane to me!

Have you read that Bravo?

OH, and Good Morning, Y'all! Happy Monday...rainy day here! Ready for trial...
 
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why we are here :rose:
and the 70 injured and those that love them :rose:

http://images.scribblelive.com/2015/...72cba6_800.jpg

good morning everyone, i hope you had a lovely weekend, this is the 10th day of the trial and should resume at approx. 8:40 mountain time :seeya:
 
  • #149
i hope to help out as much as i can with tweets/summaries but as usual i'm over-extended, big shocker i know :hilarious:......sentencing is today on two cases i'm following and also first appearances in the MS officer shootings along with some other things going on, but i'll be here posting for y'all when i can :loveyou::seeya:
 
  • #150
i hope to help out as much as i can with tweets/summaries but as usual i'm over-extended, big shocker i know :hilarious:......sentencing is today on two cases i'm following and also first appearances in the MS officer shootings along with some other things going on, but i'll be here posting for y'all when i can :loveyou::seeya:

Do you have a link for the MS Police Officer shooting? Just so heartbreaking...I don't know what the answer is to cases of police overreaching/brutality. But I do know for DANG SURE it is not shooting Police Officers around the country!!!!!!!
 
  • #151
Do you have a link for the MS Police Officer shooting? Just so heartbreaking...I don't know what the answer is to cases of police overreaching/brutality. But I do know for DANG SURE it is not shooting Police Officers around the country!!!!!!!
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...-Hattiesburg-police-officers-manhunt-underway

i have sort of adopted this thread as my baby....and you will see why, i sat up all night posting to it and poured my heart out on there telling why......broke my heart :cry:

today is the first appearance for all of them.........

sorry o/t everyone
 
  • #152
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Good morning. Over the weekend we launched a new section of our coverage where we are collecting the diagrams entered into evidence as each survivor testifies.
7NEWS Denver | Stories and diagrams from inside Theater 9, where the shooting occurred | The Denver Channel | KMGH-TV
Stories and diagrams from inside Theater 9 of the Aurora Century 16, where the July 20, 2012 shooting occurred

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eta......here is the link made good: http://www.thedenverchannel.com/aurora-movie-theater-shooting/inside-the-theater
 
  • #153
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...-Hattiesburg-police-officers-manhunt-underway

i have sort of adopted this thread as my baby....and you will see why, i sat up all night posting to it and poured my heart out on there telling why......broke my heart :cry:

today is the first appearance for all of them.........

sorry o/t everyone

Oh my QB...I just found your "poured out heart" post. And now I am snotty and can't see!! What a heartwrenchingly beautiful story. Thank you for sharing it!
 
  • #154
Oh my QB...I just found your "poured out heart" post. And now I am snotty and can't see!! What a heartwrenchingly beautiful story. Thank you for sharing it!
thank corundogs.....i'm almost embarrassed now, it was after being up all night crying.....lol.....it's my only defense :)....so i'm going to try and cover their appearances later today....

sorry o/t everyone.....
 
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Judge conducted an In Camera review of some records from CU and says he will enter an order later today

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  • #157
"We anticipate testimony at some time this week from CSI witnesses" that the defense moves to block. Including fingerprint examiner Sandra Fisher, who identified deceased victims.

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  • #158
Judge Samour opening court on time...

Defense wanting to deny some crime scene investigators their testimony.

Thinks their testimony will be prejudicial. Thinks their testimony of how they had to go about getting the identity should be excluded.
 
  • #159
Really?? Because it's hard to hear the testimony, and some of the witnesses get choked up, it shouldn't be heard????

I really wanna throw a big ripe juicy tomato at her head!! (is that OK to say? LOL!!)

ETA - I hope Orman gets to get up and defend this crap!
 
  • #160
Kristen Nelson: Says defense also objects to testimony from anyone who moved the bodies, wants to make a record that "we are objecting to any sort of setting the scene or describing the scene type testimony from these witnesses."

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