CO - James Holmes Trial Discussion - Begins April 27, 2015 # 5
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The Gold Patrol™ @thegoldpatrol
· 31m 31 minutes ago
#theatershooting
D: Did he not engage w. other students?
A: I don’t recall that?
The Gold Patrol™ @thegoldpatrol
· 31m 31 minutes ago
#theatershooting
D: Do you remember interviewing with FBI agent and saying JH didn’t engage much with others?
A: I don’t recall that
The Gold Patrol™ @thegoldpatrol
· 32m 32 minutes ago
#theatershooting
D: Do you remember telling FBI JH didn’t say much in class
A: Don’t recall
The Gold Patrol™ @thegoldpatrol
· 31m 31 minutes ago
#theatershooting
D: Do you remember telling FBI JH used iPhone a lot in class?
A: No
The Gold Patrol™ @thegoldpatrol
· 30m 30 minutes ago
#theatershooting
D: Did you tell FBI agent JH had flat affect, and seemed to march to his own drummer?
A: Maybe hazy recollection
The Gold Patrol™ @thegoldpatrol
· 30m 30 minutes ago
#theatershooting
D: Did he march to his own drummer? You told FBI JH showed unusual mannerisms
A: I said a student could be JH
The Gold Patrol™ @thegoldpatrol
· 30m 30 minutes ago
#theatershooting
D: July 20, 2012 was when you talked to FBI. Just a month or 2 after presentation? Easier to remember then?
A: Yes
The Gold Patrol™ @thegoldpatrol
· 29m 29 minutes ago
#theatershooting
A: My recollection of which student that was WAS in question after that interview (Maybe not JH)
· 31m 31 minutes ago
#theatershooting
D: Did he not engage w. other students?
A: I don’t recall that?
The Gold Patrol™ @thegoldpatrol
· 31m 31 minutes ago
#theatershooting
D: Do you remember interviewing with FBI agent and saying JH didn’t engage much with others?
A: I don’t recall that
The Gold Patrol™ @thegoldpatrol
· 32m 32 minutes ago
#theatershooting
D: Do you remember telling FBI JH didn’t say much in class
A: Don’t recall
The Gold Patrol™ @thegoldpatrol
· 31m 31 minutes ago
#theatershooting
D: Do you remember telling FBI JH used iPhone a lot in class?
A: No
The Gold Patrol™ @thegoldpatrol
· 30m 30 minutes ago
#theatershooting
D: Did you tell FBI agent JH had flat affect, and seemed to march to his own drummer?
A: Maybe hazy recollection
The Gold Patrol™ @thegoldpatrol
· 30m 30 minutes ago
#theatershooting
D: Did he march to his own drummer? You told FBI JH showed unusual mannerisms
A: I said a student could be JH
The Gold Patrol™ @thegoldpatrol
· 30m 30 minutes ago
#theatershooting
D: July 20, 2012 was when you talked to FBI. Just a month or 2 after presentation? Easier to remember then?
A: Yes
The Gold Patrol™ @thegoldpatrol
· 29m 29 minutes ago
#theatershooting
A: My recollection of which student that was WAS in question after that interview (Maybe not JH)
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This is from replay on TDC
Do you recall JH being awkward.
I do not.
Do you recall he didn't engage with other students.
No specific recollection.
Do you recall meeting with FBI agent July, 2012
Yes.
You don't recall saying JH didnt' engage with class?
Don't recall
Did not say much?
Don't specifically recall
Frequently used iPhone during class?
Don't recall
Contact outside of class?
No.
Saying Flat Affect?
No recall. Do not recall saying it.
Seemed to march to own drummer?
May have hazy recollection of that. Difficult to recall
Do you recall he did march to own drummer
Do not recall.
End of replay
Do you recall JH being awkward.
I do not.
Do you recall he didn't engage with other students.
No specific recollection.
Do you recall meeting with FBI agent July, 2012
Yes.
You don't recall saying JH didnt' engage with class?
Don't recall
Did not say much?
Don't specifically recall
Frequently used iPhone during class?
Don't recall
Contact outside of class?
No.
Saying Flat Affect?
No recall. Do not recall saying it.
Seemed to march to own drummer?
May have hazy recollection of that. Difficult to recall
Do you recall he did march to own drummer
Do not recall.
End of replay
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The Gold Patrol™ @thegoldpatrol
· 29m 29 minutes ago
#theatershooting
D: His presentation had nothing to do w. mental illness? just micro RNA
A: He talked abt these in mental illness
The Gold Patrol™ @thegoldpatrol
· 29m 29 minutes ago
#theatershooting
D: Syllabus - Autism, parkinsons, schizophrenia talk about in course?
A: Yes
The Gold Patrol™ @thegoldpatrol
· 28m 28 minutes ago
#theatershooting
D: Discuss delusions in your seminar?
A: In passing
The Gold Patrol™ @thegoldpatrol
· 28m 28 minutes ago
#theatershooting
D: Prior to today you talked to pros. And you’ve not talked to defense? We requested to talk to you?
A: I did get calls
The Gold Patrol™ @thegoldpatrol
· 28m 28 minutes ago
#theatershooting
A: I got calls from both sides and didn’t return.
· 29m 29 minutes ago
#theatershooting
D: His presentation had nothing to do w. mental illness? just micro RNA
A: He talked abt these in mental illness
The Gold Patrol™ @thegoldpatrol
· 29m 29 minutes ago
#theatershooting
D: Syllabus - Autism, parkinsons, schizophrenia talk about in course?
A: Yes
The Gold Patrol™ @thegoldpatrol
· 28m 28 minutes ago
#theatershooting
D: Discuss delusions in your seminar?
A: In passing
The Gold Patrol™ @thegoldpatrol
· 28m 28 minutes ago
#theatershooting
D: Prior to today you talked to pros. And you’ve not talked to defense? We requested to talk to you?
A: I did get calls
The Gold Patrol™ @thegoldpatrol
· 28m 28 minutes ago
#theatershooting
A: I got calls from both sides and didn’t return.
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The Gold Patrol @thegoldpatrol
· 28m 28 minutes ago
#theatershooting
D: You never talked to us? Are you worried about potential lawsuits? Are you here with lawyer for CU?
A: Yes
The Gold Patrol @thegoldpatrol
· 27m 27 minutes ago
#theatershooting
Pros - we spoke by phone. Did you conclude after FBI interview it was a different student than JH.
A: I think so
The Gold Patrol @thegoldpatrol
· 26m 26 minutes ago
#theatershooting
2 video segments played
1- included discussion of patients delusions.
The Gold Patrol @thegoldpatrol
· 27m 27 minutes ago
#theatershooting
D: Do you recall telling FBI you didnt discuss what delusions are?
A: Lecture pointed out delusions are symptoms
The Gold Patrol @thegoldpatrol
· 26m 26 minutes ago
#theatershooting
Witness says he didnt want to talk to either side and avoided calls from prosecution and defense.
The Gold Patrol @thegoldpatrol
· 26m 26 minutes ago
#theatershooting
Morning recess. Back at 12:22 EST
· 28m 28 minutes ago
#theatershooting
D: You never talked to us? Are you worried about potential lawsuits? Are you here with lawyer for CU?
A: Yes
The Gold Patrol @thegoldpatrol
· 27m 27 minutes ago
#theatershooting
Pros - we spoke by phone. Did you conclude after FBI interview it was a different student than JH.
A: I think so
The Gold Patrol @thegoldpatrol
· 26m 26 minutes ago
#theatershooting
2 video segments played
1- included discussion of patients delusions.
The Gold Patrol @thegoldpatrol
· 27m 27 minutes ago
#theatershooting
D: Do you recall telling FBI you didnt discuss what delusions are?
A: Lecture pointed out delusions are symptoms
The Gold Patrol @thegoldpatrol
· 26m 26 minutes ago
#theatershooting
Witness says he didnt want to talk to either side and avoided calls from prosecution and defense.
The Gold Patrol @thegoldpatrol
· 26m 26 minutes ago
#theatershooting
Morning recess. Back at 12:22 EST
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The Gold Patrol™ @thegoldpatrol
· 6m 6 minutes ago
Read what #jodiarias “Ventmate” had to say about her as she settles in to Perryville - http://www.thegoldpatrol.com
oops...got carried away! HAND CRAMP!!
· 6m 6 minutes ago
Read what #jodiarias “Ventmate” had to say about her as she settles in to Perryville - http://www.thegoldpatrol.com
oops...got carried away! HAND CRAMP!!
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Back from break...Jury returns.
Brenton Lowak -- counts 45 and 103
GSWs to buttocks, hip, back, was friend of Jessica Ghawi, was trying to save Jessica when she was shot a 2nd time, realized she was dead and fled.
Count 45: Attempted Murder in the 1st degree after deliberation
Count 103: Attempted Murder in the 1st degree extreme indifference
Brenton Lowak -- counts 45 and 103
GSWs to buttocks, hip, back, was friend of Jessica Ghawi, was trying to save Jessica when she was shot a 2nd time, realized she was dead and fled.
Count 45: Attempted Murder in the 1st degree after deliberation
Count 103: Attempted Murder in the 1st degree extreme indifference
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I love the personal observations mixed with the tweets....makes it possible to catch up at night!
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Larry Ryckman @larryryckman
· 16s 17 seconds ago
He was friend of Jessica Ghawi, one of 12 #theatershooting victims. Here's a profile of her: http://dpo.st/1GzsSkX
· 16s 17 seconds ago
He was friend of Jessica Ghawi, one of 12 #theatershooting victims. Here's a profile of her: http://dpo.st/1GzsSkX
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Larry Ryckman @larryryckman
· 1m 1 minute ago
Lowak recalls going to #Batman with Jessica. Theater was packed. Sat in 12th row offset to the right of auditorium #theatershooting
Larry Ryckman @larryryckman
· 26s 26 seconds ago
Lowak recalls hearing a hissing noise from front right of the theater by the emergency exit. Then he saw canister tossed #theatershooting
The Gold Patrol @thegoldpatrol
· 22s 22 seconds ago
#theatershooting
They got up - went 1 seat length and people were not moving fast enough. He pushed her and himself on ground.
The Gold Patrol @thegoldpatrol
· 13s 13 seconds ago
#theatershooting
She was telling him to call 911.
· 1m 1 minute ago
Lowak recalls going to #Batman with Jessica. Theater was packed. Sat in 12th row offset to the right of auditorium #theatershooting
Larry Ryckman @larryryckman
· 26s 26 seconds ago
Lowak recalls hearing a hissing noise from front right of the theater by the emergency exit. Then he saw canister tossed #theatershooting
The Gold Patrol @thegoldpatrol
· 22s 22 seconds ago
#theatershooting
They got up - went 1 seat length and people were not moving fast enough. He pushed her and himself on ground.
The Gold Patrol @thegoldpatrol
· 13s 13 seconds ago
#theatershooting
She was telling him to call 911.
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Damn what a trial this is to watch, I avoided this one as it seemed so long but I may have watch from day one. I did recall hearing about this over here in London. Before even reading it, I know it involved some insanity plea! Hmmmmm here we go
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Larry Ryckman @larryryckman
· 2m 2 minutes ago
A brief pause when canister hit. Then a surreal effect, a wave of people erupted from where object was thrown. #theatershooting
Larry Ryckman @larryryckman
· 2m 2 minutes ago
"Oh, this is actually happening," he thought when shots rang out. They started to run, but people weren't moving fast enough.
Larry Ryckman @larryryckman
· 1m 1 minute ago
He pushed Jessica to the ground to protect her. She kept saying, "Call 911! Call 911!" #theatershooting
Larry Ryckman @larryryckman
· 47s 48 seconds ago
He noticed Jessica was shot in her right leg, right above knee. She was screaming. Spray of popcorn and soda. #theatershooting
Larry Ryckman @larryryckman
· 7s 8 seconds ago
He was shot in the butt while he was trying to apply pressure to Jessica's wound. Shots were still being fired. #theatershooting
· 2m 2 minutes ago
A brief pause when canister hit. Then a surreal effect, a wave of people erupted from where object was thrown. #theatershooting
Larry Ryckman @larryryckman
· 2m 2 minutes ago
"Oh, this is actually happening," he thought when shots rang out. They started to run, but people weren't moving fast enough.
Larry Ryckman @larryryckman
· 1m 1 minute ago
He pushed Jessica to the ground to protect her. She kept saying, "Call 911! Call 911!" #theatershooting
Larry Ryckman @larryryckman
· 47s 48 seconds ago
He noticed Jessica was shot in her right leg, right above knee. She was screaming. Spray of popcorn and soda. #theatershooting
Larry Ryckman @larryryckman
· 7s 8 seconds ago
He was shot in the butt while he was trying to apply pressure to Jessica's wound. Shots were still being fired. #theatershooting
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The Gold Patrol @thegoldpatrol
· 4m 4 minutes ago
#theatershooting
She was laying on stomach flat talking cover. He was curled up. Heads facing R exit.
The Gold Patrol @thegoldpatrol
· 3m 3 minutes ago
#theatershooting
He felt spray of popcorn and soda from all around. Noticed her tone changed from call 911 to screaming. Shot above knee
The Gold Patrol @thegoldpatrol
· 3m 3 minutes ago
#theatershooting
He is an EMT and applied pressure to her GSW. He tried to get phone and couldnt reach. Straightened leg and was shot
The Gold Patrol @thegoldpatrol
· 3m 3 minutes ago
#theatershooting
in his left buttokcs
The Gold Patrol @thegoldpatrol
· 2m 2 minutes ago
#theatershooting
Shots continued to go off. 1st shot was old bang with pause then more frequent.
The Gold Patrol @thegoldpatrol
· 2m 2 minutes ago
#theatershooting
Got phone out and tried to call 911 but got busy message. Noticed Jessicas screaming had stopped. She was shot in head
The Gold Patrol @thegoldpatrol
· 2m 2 minutes ago
#theatershooting
Brain was exposed. He crawled closer to her and prayed over her. Def. objects but judge overrules.
· 4m 4 minutes ago
#theatershooting
She was laying on stomach flat talking cover. He was curled up. Heads facing R exit.
The Gold Patrol @thegoldpatrol
· 3m 3 minutes ago
#theatershooting
He felt spray of popcorn and soda from all around. Noticed her tone changed from call 911 to screaming. Shot above knee
The Gold Patrol @thegoldpatrol
· 3m 3 minutes ago
#theatershooting
He is an EMT and applied pressure to her GSW. He tried to get phone and couldnt reach. Straightened leg and was shot
The Gold Patrol @thegoldpatrol
· 3m 3 minutes ago
#theatershooting
in his left buttokcs
The Gold Patrol @thegoldpatrol
· 2m 2 minutes ago
#theatershooting
Shots continued to go off. 1st shot was old bang with pause then more frequent.
The Gold Patrol @thegoldpatrol
· 2m 2 minutes ago
#theatershooting
Got phone out and tried to call 911 but got busy message. Noticed Jessicas screaming had stopped. She was shot in head
The Gold Patrol @thegoldpatrol
· 2m 2 minutes ago
#theatershooting
Brain was exposed. He crawled closer to her and prayed over her. Def. objects but judge overrules.
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Is describing scene and many prior victims have done. Chaos, etc.
Pushed Jessica down, she was saying call 911.
She was laying on her stomach, taking cover. I was in a curled up position - both facing right exit.
Started to feel spray of popcorn and soda.
Her tone went from call 911 to screaming. She was shot in right leg, right above knee. As EMT, I applied pressure. More popcorn and soda. Tried to reach for phone, but couldn't. Moved to get it, and got shot in buttocks.
Was hearing shots ringing out, perception of time with adrenaline made things slow down. Loud bang, then pause, then bang and it continued. Then saw Jessie was shot, and focused on her.
Got busy message for 911.
Then noticed Jessie's screams had stopped. Saw she was shot in head - brain matter exposed. Crawled closer...prayed over her. Objection, 403. Overruled. Gave her the best send off I could. Medical training kicked in...saw she was black tagged (injuries incompatible with life)
Realized I needed to worry about my own safety. Saw someone run out in a break in the shots. Thought if shooter came back he could jump off balcony.
Heard someone cry out "Someone help...please!" Realized adrenaline was wearing off and pain in leg. Thought "help is coming!"
Then saw first responders...told them the gas was irritating, and they took him out.
Pushed Jessica down, she was saying call 911.
She was laying on her stomach, taking cover. I was in a curled up position - both facing right exit.
Started to feel spray of popcorn and soda.
Her tone went from call 911 to screaming. She was shot in right leg, right above knee. As EMT, I applied pressure. More popcorn and soda. Tried to reach for phone, but couldn't. Moved to get it, and got shot in buttocks.
Was hearing shots ringing out, perception of time with adrenaline made things slow down. Loud bang, then pause, then bang and it continued. Then saw Jessie was shot, and focused on her.
Got busy message for 911.
Then noticed Jessie's screams had stopped. Saw she was shot in head - brain matter exposed. Crawled closer...prayed over her. Objection, 403. Overruled. Gave her the best send off I could. Medical training kicked in...saw she was black tagged (injuries incompatible with life)
Realized I needed to worry about my own safety. Saw someone run out in a break in the shots. Thought if shooter came back he could jump off balcony.
Heard someone cry out "Someone help...please!" Realized adrenaline was wearing off and pain in leg. Thought "help is coming!"
Then saw first responders...told them the gas was irritating, and they took him out.
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