CO - James Holmes Trial Discussion - Begins April 27, 2015 # 5

[corundogs]

Mrs. Brady gets it! She stood fully upright, anticipating the move to admit...and clearly stated no objection!

 

[bexlex]

Larry Ryckman @larryryckman
· 13s 13 seconds ago
See the documents released today by the #theatershooting court at http://dpo.st/trialdocs


The Gold Patrol™ @thegoldpatrol
· 11m 11 minutes ago
#theatershooting

Scoot Swanson on the stand now. They sell ballistic gear online.

 

[corundogs]

FYI...there is testimony going on. But it's Edmunds. Who uses A LOT of word salad to get the witness to explain how an invoice works, and the information contained in the invoice.

You aren't missing anything.

 

[bexlex]

FYI...there is testimony going on. But it's Edmunds. Who uses A LOT of word salad to get the witness to explain how an invoice works, and the information contained in the invoice.

You aren't missing anything.

At least this guy understands how his business is operated......:gaah:

 

[corundogs]

OH, that was kinda interesting. One part shows what the internet search that brought JH to their site.

Ballistic Helmet

Purchased Kevlar helmut $336.99

 

[bexlex]

Larry Ryckman @larryryckman
· 4s 4 seconds ago
JH purchased a ballistic helmet for $336. #theatershooting


The Gold Patrol™ @thegoldpatrol
· 1m 1 minute ago
#theatershooting

Witness confirms they sold combat helmet to JH


The Gold Patrol™ @thegoldpatrol
· 30s 30 seconds ago
#theatershooting

JH declined night vision shield on helmet and side brackets on the helmet

 

[MissHaley]

ok, I guess the defense is trying to the best they can with what they have- but, IMO these objections during survivor testimony, is really annoying! I am very annoyed by the interruptions, & as a regular citizen, I have to think the jury might also find this very disrespectful & unnecessary. I know a defense strategy is to interrupt & stop the flow of testimony & maybe that’s what they are doing do important testimony that is important for the jury to hear! They stop them with the SAME objections, every time, (describing injuries & continued medical care) & judge overrules & explains why! IMO, it gives the impression that they want the injuries to be ‘secret’ & trying to minimize what the survivor’s trauma! The jury may have a problem with that. I sure do.
I am not talking about the ‘hearsay’ objections, nor do I need educated on why the defense has to do this. I just needed to express my opinion.

 

[bexlex]

Jen's Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ
· 3m 3 minutes ago
Scott is going over how JH paid for some items..it was with that MC #theatershooting #theatertrial



Jen's Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ
· 18s 18 seconds ago
JH ordered that black helmet for $366 dollars #theatershooting #theatertrial

 

[corundogs]

ok, I guess the defense is trying to the best they can with what they have- but, IMO these objections during survivor testimony, is really annoying! I am very annoyed by the interruptions, & as a regular citizen, I have to think the jury might also find this very disrespectful & unnecessary. I know a defense strategy is to interrupt & stop the flow of testimony & maybe that’s what they are doing do important testimony that is important for the jury to hear! They stop them with the SAME objections, every time, (describing injuries & continued medical care) & judge overrules & explains why! IMO, it gives the impression that they want the injuries to be ‘secret’ & trying to minimize what the survivor’s trauma! The jury may have a problem with that. I sure do.
I am not talking about the ‘hearsay’ objections, nor do I need educated on why the defense has to do this. I just needed to express my opinion.

Ditto!!! And I think the jury will have a problem with it as well.

 

[bexlex]

ok, I guess the defense is trying to the best they can with what they have- but, IMO these objections during survivor testimony, is really annoying! I am very annoyed by the interruptions, & as a regular citizen, I have to think the jury might also find this very disrespectful & unnecessary. I know a defense strategy is to interrupt & stop the flow of testimony & maybe that’s what they are doing do important testimony that is important for the jury to hear! They stop them with the SAME objections, every time, (describing injuries & continued medical care) & judge overrules & explains why! IMO, it gives the impression that they want the injuries to be ‘secret’ & trying to minimize what the survivor’s trauma! The jury may have a problem with that. I sure do.
I am not talking about the ‘hearsay’ objections, nor do I need educated on why the defense has to do this. I just needed to express my opinion.

We need to have a betting table going on the defense tactics.....I'm willing to bet you are right. Especially since JH isn't an appealing person. (Don't get why some murderous ladies seem to get away with stuff)

 

[corundogs]

Mrs. Pearson on deck!

Brett Mills - FBI Lab in Quantico. Ballistic evidence coming in!

This could be rather dry...but it is VITALLY important!

ETA - Personal note...I am going to use this time to paint my nails!

 

[bexlex]

The Gold Patrol™ @thegoldpatrol
· 29s 29 seconds ago
#theatershooting

Next witness is Brett Mills. He works for FBI lab in VA. Forensic examiner in firearms and tool mark division.


Larry Ryckman @larryryckman
· 16s 16 seconds ago
Next #theatershooting witness: Brett Mills, forensic examiner at FBI lab at Quantico, Va.

 

[corundogs]

So...they don't want Quantico expert witness to be an expert witness?? What could they object to here?

 

[MissHaley]

One other gripe. I hope the judge reams the defense team, again, about not standing when addressing the court! After he did the first time, the half attempts began, but has now reverted back to not standing anymore! Esp. Spengler, she even does the half stand even when she’s objecting! No, respect. She just says, ‘no’. The others do say, ‘no your honor’ or no thank you’ but not her. There are 2 def. ladies that do stand & address properly!

 

[bexlex]

Jen's Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ
· 4m 4 minutes ago
Spengler needs an approach #theatershooting #theatertrial


Jen's Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ
· 6m 6 minutes ago
Brett teaches other agents also in shooting reconstruction #theatershooting #theatertrial

hah.....I would think that this guy is an expert....who else would be???

 

[corundogs]

Objection overruled. Expert witness.

 

[corundogs]

I notice they are not moving the model anymore. I wonder how PT got the DT to accept that it needs to be front and center.

 

[corundogs]

Yeah...this is going to be tough...

Talking about using Trigonometry to figure out bullet trajectory.

***Eyes glaze over***

 

[bexlex]

The Gold Patrol™ @thegoldpatrol
· 15m 15 minutes ago
#theatershooting

Pros wants witness admitted as expert witness. Defense wants to approach.


The Gold Patrol™ @thegoldpatrol
· 5m 5 minutes ago
#theatershooting

FBI forensic examiner, Brett Mills, is admitted as expert witness in shooting reconstruction.


The Gold Patrol™ @thegoldpatrol
· 6m 6 minutes ago
#theatershooting

Shooting reconstruction uses the trajectory of bullets to recreate the path a shooter took and the degree which gun held


The Gold Patrol™ @thegoldpatrol
· 4m 4 minutes ago
#theatershooting

Placing a hole 3-d in a space. Measurements taken. Math used to calculate angle between the points


The Gold Patrol™ @thegoldpatrol
· 3m 3 minutes ago
#theatershooting

Witness telling all the ways to reconstruct bullet impact points - by hand, using retractor, lasers,


The Gold Patrol™ @thegoldpatrol
· 3m 3 minutes ago
#theatershooting

Shooting reconstruction uses all the different approaches. They want 3 types of measurements present. Laser, hand, and 3d


The Gold Patrol™ @thegoldpatrol
· 2m 2 minutes ago
#theatershooting

This ensures a cross check to verify accuracy.


The Gold Patrol™ @thegoldpatrol
· 1m 1 minute ago
#theatershooting

Witness assigned to case - began work July 24, 2012 (Tuesday). They started reconstruction of theaters 8 & 9


The Gold Patrol™ @thegoldpatrol
· 35s 35 seconds ago
#theatershooting

Impact - projectile stops
Hole - goes right through.


The Gold Patrol™ @thegoldpatrol
· 36s 37 seconds ago
#theatershooting

Pretty technical testimony. And I am no good at math. Hang with me!


The Gold Patrol™ @thegoldpatrol
· now
#theatershooting

FBI used same # as CSI to ID shots. He went further to separate between holes and impacts



The Gold Patrol™ @thegoldpatrol
· 4s 4 seconds ago
#theatershooting

Impact - indentation - no carrying on of trajectory.

 

[bexlex]

The Gold Patrol™ @thegoldpatrol
· now
#theatershooting

Early lunch today as judge has meeting. Will resume at 3:10 EST