CO - James Holmes Trial Discussion - Begins April 27, 2015 # 6

[atthelake]

Grrrr. my speakers are not working. They are discussing the symbol we had a question about? Can anyone listen and update as I'm working on speakers.

TIA I have timestamped this

[video]https://youtu.be/_NjCyhCnOHM?t=2h25m31s[/video]

 

[corundogs]

Arguing that the "mystery" (found in evidence envelope that wasn't marked like others, and was cut open on stand) financial papers show that he is not insane. That his mental state was fine since he maintained financial and school records in order.

I agree.

 

[LyndyLoo]

Grrrr. my speakers are not working. They are discussing the symbol we had a question about? Can anyone listen and update as I'm working on speakers.

TIA I have timestamped this

[video]https://youtu.be/_NjCyhCnOHM?t=2h25m31s[/video]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinity

It's rather long however it sure does indicate how this mind of JH works :scared:

After reading this and listening to the defence..I started to recall much discussion surround the best and the brightest of well known names..such as Einstein , Ernest Hemingway, Isaac Newton and so on....interesting huh?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creativity_and_mental_illness

 

[atthelake]

Arguing that the "mystery" (found in evidence envelope that wasn't marked like others, and was cut open on stand) financial papers show that he is not insane. That his mental state was fine since he maintained financial and school records in order.

I agree.

Ummm... I always get lost. Isn't the objective to prove that he was legally insane (not knowing right or wrong) at the time of the murders? (vs. that he had a mental illness, which is a totally different thing and is for mitigation)

So.... this is all to prove that he was not legally insane... right? As the burden is on the state to PROVE sane, vs. most states where defendant has to prove insane.

Just checking my thoughts for feedback.

 

[atthelake]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinity

It's rather long however it sure does indicate how this mind of JH works :scared:

Thanks for the additional information. How it it indicative of his mind?

Did anyone catch what that orange piece of paper was/where found and what was testified to?

 

[zoey]

croakerqueen123 ‏@croakerqueen · 8m8 minutes ago
#theatershooting #theatertrial - Day 17 - Part 1: http://youtu.be/ZhfkFzboZWI?a

 

[corundogs]

Ummm... I always get lost. Isn't the objective to prove that he was legally insane (not knowing right or wrong) at the time of the murders? (vs. that he had a mental illness, which is a totally different thing and is for mitigation)

So.... this is all to prove that he was not legally insane... right? As the burden is on the state to PROVE sane, vs. most states where defendant has to prove insane.

Just checking my thoughts for feedback.

I am not sure how it all works. Spengler argued 401, 402, 403, hearsay and relevance.

Orman argued that these neatly organized papers show he was not in the "throws of 'something'" (referenced something King said in his opening, sort of "throws of manic state" though that was not the exact wording"

Orman said "What you surround yourself with is evidence of your mental state"

Not sure if that answers your question? The State is saying this financial information is showing he was not insane.

 

[zoey]

The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 6m6 minutes ago
#theatershooting

Judge says jury should determine if the financial documents he kept meticulously is any indication of JH mental health

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 2m2 minutes ago
#theatershooting

Prescriptions:

- Loratadine
- Clonazepam
- Citrulline
- ibuprofen

 

[corundogs]

Thanks for the additional information. Did anyone catch what that orange piece of paper was/where found and what was testified to?

It was found behind a garbage bag, against the refrigerator, I think.

 

[LyndyLoo]

Ewwww La La...He was on bodybuilding med...LOL
The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol 4m4 minutes ago
#theatershooting

Prescriptions:

- Loratadine
- Clonazepam
- Citrulline
- ibuprofen
The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol 4m4 minutes ago
#theatershooting

Prescriptions:

- Loratadine > Allergy medicine

- Citrulline> http://www.drugwatch.com/l-citrulline/

snip~ Physicians can prescribe these supplements — sold as tablets, capsules, liquids and powders – to help treat certain genetic disorders and a variety of other illnesses. Without a prescription, consumers can take over-the-counter versions of the supplements. The most common over-the-counter users today are bodybuilders and athletes who want to boost their endurance.

Other purported benefits include increased energy, enhanced circulation and improved immune system function. Scientific evidence to either confirm or refute these claims is lacking, with the few small studies that have been done producing conflicting results.

 

[zoey]

Will C. Holden ‏@will_c_holden · 40s40 seconds ago
Citrulline, prescription med in Holmes' #theatershooting apartment, is amino acid supp. Reduce blood pressures. Live: http://link.kdvr.com/1Fq8ogJ

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Larry Ryckman ‏@larryryckman · 3m3 minutes ago
Prosecutors: JH decision to keep dox contradicts argument he was in throes of "psychotic episode." #theatershooting http://dpo.st/1eieExW

--The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 3m3 minutes ago
#theatershooting

Evidence taken from JH apt:

-CU lanyard
- 2 business cards

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Will C. Holden ‏@will_c_holden · 5m5 minutes ago
Loratadine, prescription med in Holmes' #theatershooting apartment, is antihistamine used to treat allergies. Watch: http://link.kdvr.com/1Fq8ogJ

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[zoey]

Will C. Holden ‏@will_c_holden · 40s40 seconds ago
Citrulline, prescription med in Holmes' #theatershooting apartment, is amino acid supp. Reduce blood pressures. Live: http://link.kdvr.com/1Fq8ogJ

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Larry Ryckman ‏@larryryckman · 3m3 minutes ago
Prosecutors: JH decision to keep dox contradicts argument he was in throes of "psychotic episode." #theatershooting http://dpo.st/1eieExW

--The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 3m3 minutes ago
#theatershooting

Evidence taken from JH apt:

-CU lanyard
- 2 business cards

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Will C. Holden ‏@will_c_holden · 5m5 minutes ago
Loratadine, prescription med in Holmes' #theatershooting apartment, is antihistamine used to treat allergies. Watch: http://link.kdvr.com/1Fq8ogJ

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[LyndyLoo]

James Holmes' psychiatrist went to cops with concerns about a patient

http://www.denverpost.com/ci_214363...p-between-theater-shooting-suspect-and-shrink

 

[zoey]

Larry Ryckman ‏@larryryckman · 5m5 minutes ago
Fenton was sued by widow of one of the 12 #theatershooting victims, who says JH should have been on psych hold. http://bit.ly/OzKRO4

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Larry Ryckman ‏@larryryckman · 8m8 minutes ago
Dr. Fenton said she last saw JH on June 11, 2012. #theatershooting

 

[zoey]

Larry Ryckman ‏@larryryckman · 2m2 minutes ago
You can see the documents released today by the #theatershooting court at http://extras.denverpost.com/trial/docs.html

 

[corundogs]

Evan Farris -- counts 74 and 140

Non-gunshot wound -- ankle fracture. In theater with fiance Richelle Hill, who was also injured but not shot. She says he threw her on ground to save her. Saw woman next to them get shot in head.
Count 74: Attempted Murder in the 1st degree after deliberation
Count 140: Attempted Murder in the 1st degree extreme indifference

 

[corundogs]

Richelle Hill -- counts 151 and 152

Non GSW, chemical irritation and minor head injury. In theater with fiance Evan Farris, who was also injured but not shot. She says he threw her on ground to save her. Saw woman next to them get shot in head.
Count 151: Attempted Murder in the 1st degree after deliberation
Count 152: Attempted Murder in the 1st degree extreme indifference

 

[corundogs]

The last 2 witnesses were together, and are telling their stories as it happened for them. Richelle is very emotional, understandably. Nothing new though, so I am not transcribing their testimony.

 

[corundogs]

Edmunds on deck

Fabio Serafini - records custodian for Fandango

 

[Maisiebelle]

Sorry I disappeared. I was face timing with my little grandson. I will start posting tweets from now


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