CO - James Holmes Trial Discussion - Begins April 27, 2015 # 7

[zoey]

The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 2m2 minutes ago
#theatershooting

Reid: Why Euro than US

JH: More general and not as specific as US History


Reid: Social life in HS

JH: Went out w. friends since middle school. Mostly guys . Played video games
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Larry Ryckman ‏@larryryckman · 2m2 minutes ago
Talking about how he went out with friends in high school. Friends from middle school. Mostly males. Played video games. #theatershooting
Larry Ryckman ‏@larryryckman · 1m1 minute ago
He played Starcraft. He also ran cross country and played some JV soccer. #theatershooting

--The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting

Reid: Tell me about CC

JH: Lots of running. 100 people ran 1 race.
Reid: Where were you at end of race?

JH: 30th out of 100
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Will C. Holden ‏@will_c_holden · 2m2 minutes ago
#TheaterShooting mental eval vid: Holmes says he didn't cry when he saw him family for first time in prison. Live: http://link.kdvr.com/1J4JTcT

--Will C. Holden ‏@will_c_holden · 1m1 minute ago
#TheaterShooting mental eval vid: Holmes says he came to CO for scenery, hiking, Rockies, interesting research. Live: http://link.kdvr.com/1J4JTcT

 

[I'mjazzed]

Me too. Which might be why I felt a bit sad when I started watching the video. I'm a mother to teens. And i'm a bit soft!

I hear that and understood those feelings you posted earlier. I have 4 of my own.. from age 9 to 20. If it helps...here... :slap: ; ) (jk)

 

[zoey]

The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting

Reid: What position?

JH: Any defense.

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 44s45 seconds ago
#theatershooting

Reid: Did you continue running or soccer in college?

JH: Intramural soccer for 1 year

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 59s59 seconds ago
#theatershooting

Reid: Girlfriend in high school?

JH: No, but some asked and I don’t know what i said

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 48s48 seconds ago
#theatershooting

Reid: Did you go out

JH: No

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 56s57 seconds ago
#theatershooting

Reid: I saw something but didn’t know context: video you were in?

JH: Probably for school project

 

[LyndyLoo]

I don't find him juvenile or childlike at all..I find him careful, calculating and saying things to garner his isolationistic preferences...

Having said all that..it's NOT uncommon for extremely bright people to avoid folks ( similar ages) as he either feels they will never understand him orr he was above them..(Your choice)..He has no doubt protected himself throughout his life..as did his parents..so was never forced to learn social things that 99% of people do...

LOL..Can you imagine trying to interact with EINSTEIN?

 

[zoey]

The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 2m2 minutes ago
#theatershooting

Reid: Looks like characters playing war roles

JH: Hemmingway - All Quiet on the Western Front. It was a scene.

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Will C. Holden ‏@will_c_holden · 2m2 minutes ago
#TheaterShooting mental eval vid: Pre-CU Holmes was living w/ parents & working at "mediocre" temp agency. Live: http://link.kdvr.com/1J4JTcT

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Anica Padilla ‏@AnicaPadilla · 2m2 minutes ago
Dr. Reid: "Tell me about cross country."
Gunman: "It was a lot of running."
#theatershooting


--The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting

Reid: One soldier shot lying face down. Was that you?

JH: Don’t rememebr


--Will C. Holden ‏@will_c_holden · 1m1 minute ago
#TheaterShooting mental eval vid: Holmes liked living in undergrad dorms at UC-Riverside. Says "it's communal." Live: http://link.kdvr.com/1J4JTcT

--The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 57s58 seconds ago
#theatershooting

Reid: Salk Institute?

JH: Internship for 3 months


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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting

Reid: Tell me about it

JH: Applied and did computer programming for research project

 

[jilly]

Seeing JH sitting there on that video had made me feel sad. I don't know why. I suppose i'm worrying he is mentally ill and what if he really didn't know what he was doing. I'm sure you will all give me a good slap and sort me out!

Me too. I'm almost in tears. He seems so vulerable right now...nice....maybe that's why I feel this way.

 

[zoey]

Will C. Holden ‏@will_c_holden · 1m1 minute ago
#TheaterShooting mental eval vid: Holmes says tuition was paid for at UC-Riverside & parents gave him extra $. Live: http://link.kdvr.com/1J4JTcT

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting

JH: Was doing Adobe Flash program. Explains his project in detail about light and monitors

--Will C. Holden ‏@will_c_holden · 2m2 minutes ago
#TheaterShooting mental eval vid: Holmes says he was social drinker in college. Never passed out from alcohol. Live: http://link.kdvr.com/1J4JTcT

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting

Reid: How did that relate to the institute?

JH: It was a project, Another was to make rock paper scissors game

--Anica Padilla ‏@AnicaPadilla · 1m1 minute ago
Dr. Reid: "Did you ever drink until you passed out?"
Gunman: "No."
Dr. Reid: "Really?!"
Gunman: "I'm part Irish."
#theatershooting

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 49s49 seconds ago
#theatershooting

JH: It was a computerized game. It appears the comp. predicted the person’s actions. Shows comp move 1st

 

[zoey]

The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 55s56 seconds ago
#theatershooting

Reid: Computer to beat the person?

JH: Yes and make it look like computer wasn’t cheating

 

[zoey]

Me too. I'm almost in tears. He seems so vulerable right now...nice....maybe that's why I feel this way.

I may be considered a heartless B---but I find some sympathy--but then after listening to all the victims--it goes away and I wish he would have used the bullets on himself...

 

[zoey]

Will C. Holden ‏@will_c_holden · 2m2 minutes ago
#TheaterShooting mental eval vid: Holmes says he went home to SD from UC-Riverside once every 3-4 months Live: http://link.kdvr.com/1J4JTcT

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 2m2 minutes ago
#theatershooting

JH: I lived in a cookie cutter house in San Diego with a pool in back. We moved up north then back. @ end of 6th grade

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting

Reid: Family?

JH: Mom’a nurse - more administrative. Dad’s retired - statistical analysis. Countering credit card fraud


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Trial Queen Sharee ‏@TrialQnSharee · 2m2 minutes ago
JH: My mom's a nurse. I think she does more admin work than hands on stuff. Dad's retired #TheaterShooting

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Trial Queen Sharee ‏@TrialQnSharee · 2m2 minutes ago
JH: My mom's a nurse. I think she does more admin work than hands on stuff. Dad's retired #TheaterShooting

--Trial Queen Sharee ‏@TrialQnSharee · 53s54 seconds ago
JH describes family as warm and loving. #TheaterShooting

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting

JH: Sister was in school. Describes family as typical suburban family. Happy, well rounded

 

[Maisiebelle]

I hear that and understood those feelings you posted earlier. I have 4 of my own.. from age 9 to 20. If it helps...here... :slap: ; ) (jk)

Lol thanks! :crosseyed:

 

[zoey]

Larry Ryckman ‏@larryryckman · 2m2 minutes ago
JH describes his family as warm and loving. "Just talking to each other." Hugs. Wasn't shy around family. #theatershooting

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Will C. Holden ‏@will_c_holden · 1m1 minute ago
#TheaterShooting mental eval vid: Holmes says he was 30th out of 100 in one of better HS cross country races. Live: http://link.kdvr.com/1J4JTcT

--The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 2m2 minutes ago
#theatershooting

Reid: Would you say warm to describe family?

JH: yes and loving

Reid: Talk much?

JH: Hugs.
Reid: Relationship prior to arrest?

JH: Caring and supportive
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Anica Padilla ‏@AnicaPadilla · 1m1 minute ago
Dr. Reid: "Tell me about UC Riverside."
Gunman: "There's not much of a river there."
#theatershooting

--Larry Ryckman ‏@larryryckman · 1m1 minute ago
Updated story: JH talks about crying and having "regrets" about #theatershooting, usually before he goes to sleep. http://dpo.st/1SEyBPA

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Larry Ryckman ‏@larryryckman · 1m1 minute ago
Updated story: JH talks about crying and having "regrets" about #theatershooting, usually before he goes to sleep. http://dpo.st/1SEyBPA

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Jeffrey Evan Gold ‏@jeffgoldesq · 30s30 seconds ago
#Theatershooting JH has loving family. This cuts for defense because evil psychopaths have deep family issues. Insanity can strike anywhere

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 31s31 seconds ago
#theatershooting

Reid: Did you know what was going on in her life? Her with yours? Emails?

JH: Not much
The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 50s50 seconds ago
#theatershooting

Reid: You went to college

JH: Kept apart after that

 

[LyndyLoo]

For some reason his voice just doesn't equate to what I thought it would be...I thought he would come across with a rather higher pitched voice..or a very low tenor due to shyness...I can only imagine IF he ever decided to Yell or scream..He'd like blow the roof off your house!!!
Just hearing about Family..It appears that's the only sense for "Feelings" he has ( for what that's worth :facepalm..So sad really...that this sense wasn't enough to curtail his "Dastardly Deed" that he so well planned!!! WHY?

It appears he's incapable/able to FEEL empathy..which lends to Psychopathy/ Narcism..inability to relate another...tho knows full well repercussions of their actions....Dr. Reid is actually slowly but surely showing that..IMO

 

[Maisiebelle]

I may be considered a heartless B---but I find some sympathy--but then after listening to all the victims--it goes away and I wish he would have used the bullets on himself...

I totally get that we have different reactions. In my mind I had built JH up into an evil monster. Seeing him on that video doesn't match with the idea I had. I do find myself thinking back to the victim testimony and the autopsy evidence too. I have to remember this is the same person who did all that.

 

[zoey]

Trial Queen Sharee ‏@TrialQnSharee · 1m1 minute ago
Defendant's sister came to visit him in jail on last visit #TheaterShooting


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Trial Queen Sharee ‏@TrialQnSharee · 53s54 seconds ago
Reid: How did sister react to seeing you in jail? JH: She was glad to see me, she wasn't sad or anything #TheaterShooting

--Trial Queen Sharee ‏@TrialQnSharee · 41s42 seconds ago
Reid: Did sister or parents seem concerned about you? JH: My mom was concerned. Just wanted to see if I was ok #TheaterShooting

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Trial Queen Sharee ‏@TrialQnSharee · 41s42 seconds ago
Reid: Did sister or parents seem concerned about you? JH: My mom was concerned. Just wanted to see if I was ok #TheaterShooting

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Will C. Holden ‏@will_c_holden · 56s56 seconds ago
#TheaterShooting mental eval vid: Holmes says family wasn't shy about giving hugs & he wasn't shy around them. Live: http://link.kdvr.com/1J4JTcT

--Will C. Holden ‏@will_c_holden · 56s56 seconds ago
#TheaterShooting mental eval vid: Holmes says family wasn't shy about giving hugs & he wasn't shy around them. Live: http://link.kdvr.com/1J4JTcT

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 58s58 seconds ago
#theatershooting

JH: To see if I was doing ok. Dad was not showing concern I guess. Sister didn’t show it. I think they were concerned

--The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting

Reid: Letters from sis?

JH: Nope - mainly mom and dad
The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting

Reid: Letters from sis?

JH: Nope - mainly mom and dad

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Larry Ryckman ‏@larryryckman · 1m1 minute ago
JH thinks his sister has written him once since #theatershooting but he's not sure. "I guess we're just living different lives

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Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 56s57 seconds ago
JH's sister was glad to see him on a visit #theatershooting #theatertrial

--The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 42s42 seconds ago
#theatershooting

Reid: What you said is normal bro/sis relationship and now you saying no relationship

JH: We went in separate directions
The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 42s42 seconds ago
#theatershooting

Reid: What you said is normal bro/sis relationship and now you saying no relationship

JH: We went in separate directions

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Larry Ryckman ‏@larryryckman · 1m1 minute ago
Never really thought about why his sister hasn't written. Do you love your sister? "Yep." He said she loves him, too. #theatershooting

Trial Queen Sharee ‏@TrialQnSharee · 1m1 minute ago
Reid asks what JH thinks about only maybe getting one letter from his sister? JH: We're living different lives. #TheaterShooting

 

[zoey]

Trial Queen Sharee ‏@TrialQnSharee · 1m1 minute ago
Reid: Do you know where sister is? JH: I think she's living in San Diego, she has her own apartment. #TheaterShooting

The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 56s57 seconds ago
#theatershooting

Reid: Still curious why she doesn’t write.Where is she?

JH: You’ll have to ask her. San Deigo in apt.

The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting

Reid: Is she married or have kids?

JH: No


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Larry Ryckman ‏@larryryckman · 1m1 minute ago
Reid zeroing in on JH relationship with his sister. Is she married? Do you know where she lives? Why doesn't she write? #theatershooting

Trial Queen Sharee ‏@TrialQnSharee · 1m1 minute ago
Reid: Do you know where your sister lives in San Diego? JH: I don't know the exact address #TheaterShooting

Trial Queen Sharee ‏@TrialQnSharee · 1m1 minute ago
Reid: Do you know where your sister lives in San Diego? JH: I don't know the exact address #TheaterShooting

Trial Queen Sharee ‏@TrialQnSharee · 1m1 minute ago
Defendant's mom writes JH every week. Tells him things that are happening and about her support #TheaterShooting

Larry Ryckman ‏@larryryckman · 1m1 minute ago
Now asking about JH mother. Most letters come from mom. Dad writes about once a month. A big letter. #theatershooting
Will C. Holden ‏@will_c_holden · 1m1 minute ago
#TheaterShooting mental eval vid: Holmes says sis came 2 see him during last visit, was glad 2 see him/not sad. Live: http://link.kdvr.com/1J4JTcT

The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting

Reid: Anything about your sister?

JH: Yeah, that she was working at sub sandwich place
Trial Queen Sharee ‏@TrialQnSharee · 1m1 minute ago
Defendant's dad writes him once a month. One big letter #TheaterShooting

 

[Maisiebelle]

When asked to put himself in his parents shoes (when hearing about the shooting), JH really seemed to struggle. He doesn't seem to understand how things might affect other people. He used words such as 'troubled' and 'sad'.

 

[zoey]

Jeffrey Evan Gold ‏@jeffgoldesq · 2m2 minutes ago
#Theatershooting def James Holmes parents sit behind him today, as everyday. They are his the only visable supporters in court


--The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 2m2 minutes ago
#theatershooting

Reid: How often does dad write?

JH: Once a month. A big letter. Mom writes medium letter 1x a w
Reid: Why doesn’t dad write as much?

JH: It’s his personality
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Larry Ryckman ‏@larryryckman · 2m2 minutes ago
How do you think mom and dad feel about arrest? How did it affect them? "Negatively." #theatershooting

--The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting

Reid: Do you know how they found out about shooting?

JH: They were called on the night of

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Trial Queen Sharee ‏@TrialQnSharee · 2m2 minutes ago
Reid: How do you think it affects mom and dad to have a son in jail? JH: I think it affects them negatively. Makes them sad #TheaterShooting

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 2m2 minutes ago
#theatershooting

Reid: How did they react?

JH: They contacted lawyers

--Larry Ryckman ‏@larryryckman · 2m2 minutes ago
"They were troubled." How would you feel if you were them? "I'd be sad as well." "Sad for my son being incarcerated." #theatershooting

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Trial Queen Sharee ‏@TrialQnSharee · 55s56 seconds ago
Defendant says he thinks his parents are sad for their son being incarcerated #TheaterShooting

--The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting

Reid: Any other reactions?

JH: Sad as well. Sad for son being incarcerated

 

[zoey]

When asked to put himself in his parents shoes (when hearing about the shooting), JH really seemed to struggle. He doesn't seem to understand how things might affect other people. He used words such as 'troubled' and 'sad'.

It reminds me of if he was at summer camp---even some of the questions the doctor is asking

 

[zoey]

The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting

JH: It’s near the coast. It was agricultural. Strawberries, artichokes, canyon behind my house. Moved b/c of dad job

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting

Reid: What was home like in Salinas?

JH: Peaceful, rural. I played basketball and flag football

The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 43s44 seconds ago
#theatershooting

JH: House was in suburbia. Single story

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Will C. Holden ‏@will_c_holden · 42s43 seconds ago
#TheaterShooting mental eval vid: Holmes says he'd be sad, like they are, if he were in parents shoes. Live: http://link.kdvr.com/1J4JTcT