CO - James Holmes Trial Discussion - Begins April 27, 2015 # 8

[LyndyLoo]

No. I definitely sense some animosity towards her. I think I even read/heard somewhere that he left threatening messages on her voicemail, and that's what prompted her to notify campus security. I could have the facts wrong about that, but I'm pretty sure I read that somewhere.

I think he hates her because she didn't react nor respond according to his expectations...Dr. Reid rides that line ..while not condoning what he did..calls him out when being disingenuous..which since he;s in prison seems to accept..thus conversation tho guarded..appears he's's following yet another script his Defence team set forth..( THEY already had reports for THEIR Experts) not to mention the prior State Expert...NOT to mention None of them recorded nor spend any time looking into all sides of information...

There is one thing I want to ask...Did anyone do testing to see IF this guy was a Malingerer?? I recall in Arias Case..Those tests were rather truncated ....BUT in this case..Was any tests ever done and by whom??
I for one would love to find out those results!!

 

[cujenn81]

I think he hates her because she didn't react nor respond according to his expectations...Dr. Reid rides that line ..while not condoning what he did..calls him out when being disingenuous..which since he;s in prison seems to accept..thus conversation tho guarded..appears he's's following yet another script his Defence team set forth..( THEY already had reports for THEIR Experts) not to mention the prior State Expert...NOT to mention None of them recorded nor spend any time looking into all sides of information...

There is one thing I want to ask...Did anyone do testing to see IF this guy was a Malingerer?? I recall in Arias Case..Those tests were rather truncated ....BUT in this case..Was any tests ever done and by whom??
I for one would love to find out those results!!

I wondered that too. I would have to believe they did, right? I surely hope so.

I've researched the symptoms of malingering and there seem to be quite a few that apply to JH:

Unlikely symptom combinations

Symptoms don't fit a diagnostic category or symptoms span a wide variety of disorders

If experiencing hallucinations, does not attempt to make them go away

A noticeable delay between a question being asked and giving their answer

Fail to remember exact details about their behavior or about delusions/hallucinations

Give over-generalized answers

Give vague answers or give "I don't know" answers frequently

Make contradictory statements about their symptoms or the crime they committed

Describe bizarre thoughts or delusions even though thinking is clear and coherent

Use overly technical psychiatric terminology

 

[Benny08]

I got that super creepy feeling today when he described looking through the crack in the door from the outside at the crowd before he went in.

 

[corundogs]

One of my main questions today...and interested in seeing what all of you smart people think!

Do people with schizophrenia remember their actions with COMPLETE AND TOTAL RECALL??

JH has his story down to a science. It doesn't change. He loves talking about it. He says the same things that are in the notebook.

Now, is that because he spent so much time planning...and thinking about how it all went?

And I am sure I am not the only one who noticed that he gives vague and incomplete answers when being asked about anything BUT his "masterful crime"!

One more thing that disturbed me...when talking about his "points system". Doc asked if he has 13 points - himself and the 12 he killed (I am glad that 1 included him, because at first, I thought he was counting the unborn baby).

And asked if someone then killed him, do they get his 13 points?? And his answer was "Nope!" So he has absolute intention of not allowing anyone to take those from him.

Today was another rough day. Hopefully tomorrow is the last of the video.

And then we have to brace ourselves for King's cross. I don't even know what to expect from that...but I don't think I am gonna like it!

 

[zoey]

The Denver Post ‏@denverpost · 4m4 minutes ago
Jurors for the first time heard James Holmes describe the #theatershooting attack: http://dpo.st/1HIBpCw

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John Ingold ‏@johningold · 4m4 minutes ago
Day 23 of the Aurora #theatershooting trial: Another motive for the killings but no good answer why. http://www.denverpost.com/theater-s...bout-gunmans-evaluation-expected-aurora-trial

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Complete Colorado ‏@CompleteCO · 5m5 minutes ago
Theater shooter says he tried calling crisis line before shootings... http://oncomplete.co/2uq via @CBSDenver #theatershooting

--7NEWS Denver Channel ‏@DenverChannel · 1h1 hour ago
#TheaterShooting trial: Gunman expected notoriety for mass murder, considered attack his only success - http://bit.ly/1KMttq1

 

[zoey]

KDVR FOX31 Denver ‏@KDVR · 2m2 minutes ago
WATCH LIVE: Day 24 of Aurora #theatershooting trial http://link.kdvr.com/1QpiLo1

Trial Queen Sharee ‏@TrialQnSharee · 1m1 minute ago
#TheaterShooting trial to resume shortly....watch LIVE here: http://trialqueen.com/james-holmes-livestream/ … #TrialQueen

 

[zoey]

:coffeews: Hi all

 

[MissHaley]

Here we go- defense asking for mistrial

 

[MissHaley]

Now, they knew what was said in the video beforehand, so why is this an issue for them?

 

[MissHaley]

Judge giving Ms. Nelson a slap down. Too late to make argument now!

 

[zoey]

Marshall Zelinger ‏@7Marshall · 1m1 minute ago
#TheaterShooting def asks for MISTRIAL b/c of portion of interview played yesterday where def talked about crime. Says violates his rights

 

[zoey]

Will C. Holden ‏@will_c_holden · 55s55 seconds ago
Judge vehemently calls #theatershooting movement for mistrial untimely, says it should have been made before Dr. Reid spent 5 days on stand

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 40s40 seconds ago
#theatershooting

Judge - this argument of pros calling Dr Reid improperly is untimely. You didn’t object

 

[zoey]

The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting

Def - the reason for motion is it relates to introduction as whole played yesterday

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 57s57 seconds ago
#theatershooting

judge - I am not hearing this now, you should have raised it when he was introduced

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Trial Queen Sharee ‏@TrialQnSharee · 2m2 minutes ago
Defe asks for another mistrail in #TheaterShooting Judge tells them the argument of pros calling Dr. Reid is untimely. He's not happy

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Trial Queen Sharee ‏@TrialQnSharee · 1m1 minute ago
Judge to defense: This argument in untimely and I'm not going to hear it now #TheaterShooting

--Will C. Holden ‏@will_c_holden · 58s58 seconds ago
#TheaterShooting defense specifically objects to yesterday's video & wants to finish argument for appellate record. Judge won't allow it

 

[zoey]

Marshall Zelinger ‏@7Marshall · 49s50 seconds ago
Judge miffed by #TheaterShooting mistrial request. Saying any objection to video interview should have been before it started 5 days ago

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Rick Sallinger ‏@ricksallinger · 33s34 seconds ago
#theatershooting Defense wants mistrial claiming defendant made self incriminating statements in psychiatrist interview

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[zoey]

7NEWS Denver Channel ‏@DenverChannel · 42s43 seconds ago
Judge denies defense motion for mistrial with great enthusiasm - LIVE: http://bit.ly/1DTwGLZ #theatershooting

 

[MissHaley]

I think they're desperate now, because what the jury heard the murderer tell the doc.

 

[zoey]

Cathy ‏@courtchatter · 53s53 seconds ago
LIVE NOW: #theatershooting Trial. http://www.courtchatter.com/#!james-holmes

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Anica Padilla ‏@AnicaPadilla · 54s54 seconds ago
#TheaterShooting defense asks for mistrial based on video of gunman talking about crime. Claims violates his rights.
Judge denies request

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Marshall Zelinger ‏@7Marshall · 48s48 seconds ago
2nd request for a mistrial by #TheaterShooting defense not even considered by judge. Not addressing the merit of the argument

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Will C. Holden ‏@will_c_holden · 56s57 seconds ago
@GeorgeBrauchler: Def. should've come 2 us about mistrial, as it's motion not objection. #TheaterShooting judge agrees it's "unprofessional

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[zoey]

Cathy ‏@courtchatter · 47s47 seconds ago
BREAKING: Defense in #theatershooting moves for mistrial stating video played yesterday JH talking about crime violated his rights

 

[zoey]

I think they're desperate now, because what the jury heard the murderer tell the doc.

I agree--

 

[zoey]

Will C. Holden ‏@will_c_holden · 1m1 minute ago
#TheaterShooting judge says def. can't say "If we like what an expert says, then we're OK. If we don't, then we'll call it unconstitutional"

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Cathy ‏@courtchatter · 1m1 minute ago
Def wants mistrial because JH admits to shooting people.(um...there's not really doubt about that) #theatershooting http://www.courtchatter.com/#!james-holmes

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Trial Queen Sharee ‏@TrialQnSharee · 1m1 minute ago
Judge reminds defense "I asked Dr. Reid to talk to defendant about the events and what happened." #TheaterShooting

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Cathy ‏@courtchatter · 1m1 minute ago
Judge Samour appears a little upset at defense. Denies mistrial motion, calls it "untimely". #theatershooting

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CBSDenver ‏@CBSDenver · 56s56 seconds ago
#TheaterShooting gunman says he’ll be remembered only as a ‘bad guy’ http://cbsloc.al/1Ml6tMV

---Marshall Zelinger ‏@7Marshall · 46s46 seconds ago
This #TheaterShooting mistrial request appears to be for defense to use on appeal purposes than a serious attempt to stop trial