CO - James Holmes Trial Discussion - Begins April 27, 2015 # 8

[I'mjazzed]

:loveyou: thank you!

Maisebelle taught me how to do that. = )

Thank you Maise! = )

 

[zoey]

So now he equates having sex ( biology) means "Falling in Love"..This guy is truly talking like a juvenile...SMH..
Having intercourse does NOT mean Love..Ouyvie...Master-bate ( never made a pact to not do that)...He has absolutely no understanding of WHAT LOVE REALLY IS!! does he?.. Could explain why he doesn't value anyone beyond himself..."Circled the wagons" in his head it seems way back when !!

well you know he has a " broken brain/mind" :gaah:

 

[bexlex]

I would never hate my mother.........

 

[zoey]

The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 2m2 minutes ago
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Reid: Some who see divorce as kid may keep from wanting love. Don’t want hurt/hurt others.

JH - I don’t think it applies

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 57s58 seconds ago
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JH - Fell in love by getting to know her. He’s glad he did it. Got to know another, care for another

 

[I'mjazzed]

just from listening or are you sick?

Just from listening lol but... I don't want to miss any of it either. Such a dilemma!

ETA~ I feel sorry for the jury.. at least I can get up and leave if I want to.

 

[bexlex]

it wasn't acceptable to be angry with her.....

 

[LyndyLoo]

Could that mean..that explosions meant he got OFF for the first time in his life??/ that flame kind of suggesting putting it together with the rest of his symbols!! ..LOL look at his left and right lower corner's of flame drawing..almost like a "Deflowering Ceremony" LOL

 

[zoey]

The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 2m2 minutes ago
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Good things happened. You still use language you lost battle by falling in love

Other pacts as kid: Never hate my mother

 

[zoey]

Just from listening lol but... I don't want to miss any of it. Such a dilemma!

I'm with ya---thought about checking out and here I sit...:fence::scared:

 

[zoey]

The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 3m3 minutes ago
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How to go from angry to promising you wouldn’t hate her?

JH - Wasn’t acceptable
JH got angry with mom and that’s when he made pact. He didn’t want it to happen again

Reid: What created anger?

JH - Don’t remember

Reid: If mom gets angry @ kid what could happen?

JH - Treat you different, hostile tones, time out, spanking, ignore you---
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Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 2m2 minutes ago
JH promised himself he'd never hate his mother #theatershooting #theatertrial

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
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Reid: What did you say about being ignored last time we talked?

JH - Valueless

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
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Reid: the most important person you want to value you as a kid is mom?

JH - Yes

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
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Reid: Did mom threaten to leave you or not talk to you?

JH - No.

 

[zoey]

The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 2m2 minutes ago
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JH says he kept his pact to not hate his mom but he would get angry and suppress it. Never expressed it to her.

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Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 1m1 minute ago
If in trouble with his mom he could get ignored or spanked #theatershooting #theatertrial

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 2m2 minutes ago
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Reid: Can you express anger without hating?

JH - Yes, if you drop dinner plate, mom would be angry but still love you

-----Larry Ryckman ‏@larryryckman · 2m2 minutes ago
Reid: "Can one express anger without hating?" JH: "Yeah." Like dropping a dinner plate. Mom can be angry but not hate. #theatershooting

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Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 1m1 minute ago
JH wanted valued by his mom #theatershooting #theatertrial

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Larry Ryckman ‏@larryryckman · 2m2 minutes ago
Reid now asking about obsession to kill referenced in notebook. #theatershooting

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
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Reid: Obsession to kill became more realistic. Bomb, nuclear, serial killing

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Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 2m2 minutes ago
His mom never threatened to leave Him #theatershooting #theatertrial

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 2m2 minutes ago
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Reid: That suggests when you wrote notebook you drew connection between killing as kid & ending up with killing when big

JH - I guess it progressed.

Reid: In earlier talks, there were gaps in that progression
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Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 2m2 minutes ago
JH suppressed his anger if he was angry at his mom #theatershooting #theatertrial

----The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
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JH - I didn’t have that mission as a child.

Reid: Notebook - something different but evolving difference

 

[zoey]

The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
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JH - Went from every way to kill but ended up this way.

Reid: How do you see it?

JH - 1 single continuous line

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
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Reid: Was that line interrupted?

JH - No

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
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Reid: This is as you remember in mid-2012.

JH - Yes

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 58s58 seconds ago
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Reid: You said “obsession” to kill

JH - I have OCD

 

[zoey]

The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
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JH Recurring thought beginning at age 10. Sometimes weekly, every other. Occurred @ downtime. Before sleep

 

[Maisiebelle]

Maisebelle taught me how to do that. = )

Thank you Maise! = )

You are so welcome!!


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[zoey]

I need to get something done...someone else tweets?? bbm

The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
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JH - No drawings, writings, he kept it all inside

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
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Reid says he saw drawings from family counseling sessions. Draw a house and family.

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 43s43 seconds ago
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JH doesn’t remember. Reid not good interpreter of child drawing but they didn’t involve killing anyone

 

[zoey]

The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
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JH refers to mass murders at movies as “Last escape”

JH- I guess death is the last escape

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
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Reid: You obsessed since 10.

JH - The thought were escapism

 

[LyndyLoo]

I'm with ya---thought about checking out and here I sit...:fence::scared:

You two ( including Jazzed) feeling so "Wanna get outa here" . this only gives you a glimpse into the tediousness of "Therapists" dealing with patients..."Pulling teeth" in getting to the bottom of someone's issue's can be VERY VERY exhausting...
This Dr. Reid is so impressive..he never changes tone and remains professional and even give's thanks to this manipulative sick minded soul..yet was the only one ( out of numerous Psych examiner's who took the time to actually talk to this guy/video taped) who did a total assessment....I love this D. Reid!! :love you:

Other psych Physicians didn't record interviews..and can't wait to actually hear Defence Experts!!

 

[cujenn81]

Been following the case and watching the trial everyday since it started.

I'm a little late to join in on WS...

What did I miss?
:bricks:

WELCOME local buddy 'ol pal!

 

[LyndyLoo]

The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol 6m6 minutes ago
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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol 6m6 minutes ago
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Reid: In viewing yourself, how accurate do you think you viewed yourself?

JH - Accurate or wouldn’t have written it
The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol 6m6 minutes ago
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Reid: Thinking one is broken isn’t proof one is broken.
Reid: From other people viewing you, they viewed you differently? Maybe you viewed yourself one way and they saw you ok.

The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol 6m6 minutes ago
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Reid: If I were a kid playing with you at 10 would i think you were abnormal?

JH - No

The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol 6m6 minutes ago
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Reid: Did it worry you that you thought about killing?

JH - No, not really.

 

[LyndyLoo]

The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol 8m8 minutes ago
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Reid: With GF did you think you were good judge of her?

JH - Yes

The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol 7m7 minutes ago
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Reid: Good judge of others feelings?

JH - I can tell when happy/sad

The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol 7m7 minutes ago
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Reid: How good judge of others are you?

JH - Pretty good