CO - Jessica Hernandez, 17, killed by police after LEO struck by stolen car

[katydid23]

The article is not quoting anyone with the statement 'H later died at an area hospital'. No one is credited with that statement. No time of death. People that are pronounced dead at hospital are just that - pronounced dead at hospital. Means nothing.

Who is making the statement?

Chuckles - and where is Jimmy Hoffa? He's been pronounced dead. When? Where?

Chuckles? I fail to see the humor.

The statement was made by the REPORTER, who was apparently told that she died in the hospital. Are you saying the reporter is wrong?

Where does it say she was 'pronounced dead at the hospital?' It says she DIED at the hospital. Big difference.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Chuckles? I fail to see the humor.

The statement was made by the REPORTER, who was apparently told that she died in the hospital. Are you saying the reporter is wrong?

Where does it say she was 'pronounced dead at the hospital?' It says she DIED at the hospital. Big difference.

Seems everybody is wrong except the criminal.

 

[Woodland]

Chuckles? I fail to see the humor.

The statement was made by the REPORTER, who was apparently told that she died in the hospital. Are you saying the reporter is wrong?

Where does it say she was 'pronounced dead at the hospital?' It says she DIED at the hospital. Big difference.

Agreed with bold and underline.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Halfway through the service, Nakvasil read part of a poem that Hernandez had written in 2013, discussing the challenges she faced in her life:

"I seem to be a fighter ... But really I am outgoing.

I like to play sports; I want to get my education...

I choose to be loud at points; I choose to be happy, smiling all the time...

I choose to be a good role model from now on, even if temptations are in the way.

I choose to live a good teenage life."

http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_2...mass-and-burial-commemorate-jessica-hernandez

It's such a shame that Jessica did not follow her own words of wisdom. IMO she certainly did give in to her temptations and was not able to be the role model she wanted to be.

I think we can all agree that it is very sad to read these words.

I really wish she had been able to live that "good teenage life" instead of following a road of crime and bad choices.

JMO (just my opinion, not stated as fact)

 

[al66pine]

Time & place of death?

Is it possible some here are recalling statements from random ppl at the alley who said to MSM
(my paraphrasing) LE pulled her out of the car and cuffed her, when she was already dead?

Not personally weighing in on the question --- just highlighting poss source of confusion.

 

[musicaljoke]

Every police shooting should be examined by an independent inquiry. It preserves the integrity of law enforcement and deflects a lot of social anxiety.

 

[panthera]

Not sure. To flee? To aim?

Why was the vehicle moving at all?
It was parked when the cops approached it.

BBM

THAT is my question, also which one of the occupants of the car actually stole it...was it Jessica or someone else? If she didn't take part in stealing it, how did she come to be the driver of it? My questions are more toward what happened before LE shot her rather than blaming LE for shooting at a stolen vehicle with several occupants inside. Certainly she was not without at least some criminal responsibility.

MOO

 

[al66pine]

...part of a poem that Hernandez had written in 2013, discussing the challenges she faced in her life:
"I seem to be a fighter ... But really I am outgoing.
I like to play sports; I want to get my education...
I choose to be loud at points; I choose to be happy, smiling all the time...
I choose to be a good role model from now on, even if temptations are in the way.
I choose to live a good teenage life."
http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_2...mass-and-burial-commemorate-jessica-hernandez....

. sbm

When did JH write this? I wonder what the rest of the writing said?
From my interp of her soc media, seems like for a couple years preceding her death, she was, um, er, say, not a Girl Scout.
An exercise in a juvie program? Or did something else prompt her to write?

 

[Kimberlyd125]

BBM

THAT is my question, also which one of the occupants of the car actually stole it...was it Jessica or someone else? If she didn't take part in stealing it, how did she come to be the driver of it? My questions are more toward what happened before LE shot her rather than blaming LE for shooting at a stolen vehicle with several occupants inside. Certainly she was not without at least some criminal responsibility.

MOO

Her social media activity shows me that she was living on the edge. I have no doubt (in my mind) that she stole that car or knew it was stolen.

She wanted her Mom's car that night and when her Mom refused, she (or she and her friends) stole one.

Not to mention, she was just pulled over 3 weeks before her death and resisted arrest in a way that could result in serious injury for the state trooper or others.

She tweeted that she hated police. She tweeted about constant drug use and court appearances. She had pictures on her FB page that glorified pot use and drinking.

She was living a dangerous life that she knew would not end well (by her tweets).

IMO
JMO
MOO

 

[Kimberlyd125]

. sbm

When did JH write this? I wonder what the rest of the writing said?
From my interp of her soc media, seems like for a couple years preceding her death, she was, um, er, say, not a Girl Scout.
An exercise in a juvie program? Or did something else prompt her to write?

It says 2013.

 

[panthera]

Her social media activity shows me that she was living on the edge. I have no doubt (in my mind) that she stole that car or knew it was stolen.

She wanted her Mom's car that night and when her Mom refused, she (or she and her friends) stole one.

Not to mention, she was just pulled over 3 weeks before her death and resisted arrest in a way that could result in serious injury for the state trooper or others.

She tweeted that she hated police. She tweeted about constant drug use and court appearances. She had pictures on her FB page that glorified pot use and drinking.

She was living a dangerous life that she knew would not end well (by her tweets).

IMO
JMO
MOO

Exactly, and thankfully she didn't kill the LEO or someone else with that stolen car.

MOO

 

[katydid23]

Every police shooting should be examined by an independent inquiry. It preserves the integrity of law enforcement and deflects a lot of social anxiety.

I think a lot would depend upon WHO is doing the inquiry. I would not support a special prosecutor type situation. That could end up in a witch hunt. They would feel the need to justify their positions and a lot of innocent cops could be railroaded. JMO

 

[Kimberlyd125]

I think a lot would depend upon WHO is doing the inquiry. I would not support a special prosecutor type situation. That could end up in a witch hunt. They would feel the need to justify their positions and a lot of innocent cops could be railroaded. JMO

I think the investigations should be handled the same way no matter your race, sexual orientation, gender....

I do not think people would be screaming for a special prosecutor had Jessica been a straight white boy.

JMO

 

[al66pine]

It says 2013.

Thanks. I got carried away trying to match up that writing content w events alluded to in her SM.
Sorry to be such a knucklehead for overlooking the year.

 

[panthera]

I think the investigations should be handled the same way no matter your race, sexual orientation, gender....

I do not think people would be screaming for a special prosecutor had Jessica been a straight white boy.

JMO

I am at a loss as to what the "issue" is. The occupants of a stolen vehicle failed to get out when ordered to by LE, and instead the driver accelerated the vehicle and aimed it toward LE, injuring one officer. LE fires at the car and the driver is injured and later dies at the hospital. It should not make any difference what gender or age the driver was. It wasn't a carjacking with an innocent victim behind the wheel.

MOO

 

[Kimberlyd125]

http://www.koaa.com/story/28115366/...after-memorial-for-fallen-officers-vandalized

2 arrested in Denver after memorial for fallen officers vandalized

 

[Kimberlyd125]

http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_27538484/denver-mayor-police-wont-be-provoked-into-confrontations

Denver mayor: Police won't be provoked into confrontations


Denver Mayor Michael Hancock said Monday he would not allow emotions to rule during protests that would result in police officers getting drawn into violent confrontations.

"These are folks who are looking for a confrontation," Hancock said. "They're asking and baiting the officers to start something"

 

[Woodland]

An interesting set of events unfolding here imo. From the same article posted above -

http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_27538484/denver-mayor-police-wont-be-provoked-into-confrontations

Hancock met with the media to publicly back his police chief and call out a Denver Police Protective Association leader who objected to the chief's orders.

So the mayor and chief of police are opposed to confrontations with the public (which are occurring over many instances of police shootings, not just this one) but the head of the Denver Police Protective Association (aka union) is speaking against this reaction.
The union wants riot gear among other things when the public is protesting. The chief does not - the chief is citing accepted practices by policing experts. The union is not citing anyone.

A power struggle? Why? What role does the Denver Police Protective Association play in public affairs compared with the Chief and the mayor?

Imo, two sides on this issue (everywhere) is the core problem.

 

[JLSChook]

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[Kimberlyd125]

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