CO - Jessica Ridgeway, 10, Westminster, 5 Oct 2012 - #17

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  • #581
Thanks, I was afraid I was way out of the ball park again. One other thing I thought of with the number 3 was her clothes. One set of 3 would be the coat and 2 boots, another would be pants, shirt and underwear. That would leave 2 socks that he might have burned because they didn't fit.

Bristol sexual assault and murder vicitm Joanna Yeates was missing her socks as well. Police had a press release with a similar pair of socks, asking people to look for the socks.

She was strangled with a sock ... which is why they were missing ... they were no longer on her when Vincent Tabak moved her body to a frozen ditch.
 
  • #582
You know, no one has mentioned restaurant worker, highly flexible hours. Can work opens or closes or mid shifts... plenty of time working non-regular hours.

Good point. Love your hat by the way :)

This guy has either no job, works part time, works nights or has flex hours like someone in the service industry.

Keep those ideas coming .
 
  • #583
You know, no one has mentioned restaurant worker, highly flexible hours. Can work opens or closes or mid shifts... plenty of time working non-regular hours.

This possibility was discussed after discovering that she had been dismembered. I still think it's a good possibility.
 
  • #584
Yeah, when this one came up before my feeling was that it was all basically coincidence + the fact that Speer was semi well known in his field.

There are far too many coincidences in this case for my liking.

But they don't seem to add up to anything.
 
  • #585

Wow, car buff...I learned something new! I didn't realize this was Jewish in nature. Being a Christian who is fairly well versed in Judaism, I'm surprised I haven't heard the term before. Maybe Southern Jews have a different name for golems. :slap:

OK, Woof, be honest. You not only know the term, but you have used it in a WS post, haven't you?!

ETA: BTW, I took Greek in college (and was terrified of my professor, stuffy old thing that was harsh as heck). My father went to the same college years earlier and was awarded the Biblical Languages Scholar Award. Needless to say, I didn't win anything. But I was voted in as class Senator and I got a sign for my door. All that meant was, if students had any problems, they knew where to complain 24/7.
 
  • #586
Good point. Love your hat by the way :)

This guy has either no job, works part time, works nights or has flex hours like someone in the service industry.

Keep those ideas coming .

I'm still a newbie... Feeling kinda stupid, but my hat?

And a lot of people who are on work release and in trouble with the law work in restaurants (mostly in the kitchen)

They would possibly know their way with a knife....... :cringe:
 
  • #587
Perhaps it is someone drawing disability? (This can include mental disorders as well as physical ones)
 
  • #588
I'm still a newbie... Feeling kinda stupid, but my hat?

And a lot of people who are on work release and in trouble with the law work in restaurants (mostly in the kitchen)

They would possibly know their way with a knife....... :cringe:

I interpret "hat" to mean your "stage name." And I gotta say, its really cute.

I'm not sure its someone who has had run-ins with LE. At least we know he's not in the DNA database.
 
  • #589
I'm still a newbie... Feeling kinda stupid, but my hat?

And a lot of people who are on work release and in trouble with the law work in restaurants (mostly in the kitchen)

They would possibly know their way with a knife....... :cringe:

I like your hat. I ate glue before when I was a kid in 1st grade. yelp.
 
  • #590
I'm still a newbie... Feeling kinda stupid, but my hat?

And a lot of people who are on work release and in trouble with the law work in restaurants (mostly in the kitchen)

They would possibly know their way with a knife....... :cringe:

Hat = screen name. I like it too!
 
  • #591
Hat equals websleuths username :)_
 
  • #592
Umm....Shefner believes Pat Brown is wrong.

Yep, ITA and don't see how we can categorize a serial killer as if they all think and do things the same way. I don't see where any of them are the same. I also really believe with all the garbage movies and tv shows telling people how to kill and how to get away with it, how can they even be caterorized anymore?
 
  • #593
Very interesting...I´v been researching the photographer of that cross and find him, indeed, interesting.

You can send the image to me on [email protected] and I will post it for you.

It would just be far too coincidental if 2 different, awesome photographers of nature were involved in the recent and separate crimes against children of the past month in the western states.
but I get it. I really do. It clicks for me. (geeze. no pun was intended. seriously:)
 
  • #594
<SNIP>

Just like stating the perp could be the postman, a doctor, a government worker, a teacher, a student, a real estate agent is only suggestion, the perp could be anyone at this point and possibly even an Indian Chief!
<SNIP>

You know, no one has mentioned restaurant worker, highly flexible hours. Can work opens or closes or mid shifts... plenty of time working non-regular hours.

Some others are bartender, UPS driver, Schwann's driver, garbage collector(?), veterinarian, gas station attendant.
 
  • #595
It has a SOS button that functions as a panic button. They are always adding new things to this GPS and it can be hidden in various places on a child. I wish we didn't need things like this but the reality is we do. A child could use one of these for lots of reasons-not just abductions.

yes, exactly.
 
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You know, no one has mentioned restaurant worker, highly flexible hours. Can work opens or closes or mid shifts... plenty of time working non-regular hours.

no ones mentioned that the person could have been on paid leave from work, like holidays.

or works at an abattoir or butcher

or knows the area well and has access to a cabin/hut thats isolated
 
  • #598
Now that this has all settled down, I wanted to help you out a bit on it. You weren't totally wrong about the date and post count. You had accidentally (I assume!) looked at imnotagolem's stats on the welcoming post.
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I've been thinking about the cross too, among other things. I'm wondering if this guy has an OCD problem that partially centers around the number 3. Three lines on each side of the cross, 3 day weekends, 3 crime scenes (3rd one not found yet - abduction site, murder site and drop site), 3 "dump" sites (blood and whatever else was discarded at the murder site, the BP and Pattridge Park). The thing that worries me is that if both joggers at Ketner and the little boy were his victims, then Jessica would mean number 4. That could mean that he's completed his "3 attempted abductions" and now he's started on his "3 murders." One other that is pretty morbid would be if the body was "dismembered" and he had it in 6 pieces (2 sets of 3), which would be a head & 2 arms, and a torso & 2 legs. I also suspect that she may have been killed 3 days after she was taken (or her body was dumped after 3 days).

In addition to the recurring number 3, other signs of OCD could be: neatly folding the clothes after murdering someone, placing them into the backpack and neatly placing that on the sidewalk. There were some others, but I think my fever has burnt out my memory.

3 may not just be an OCD thing. It's a religious/spiritual and metaphysical thing too.
 
  • #599
no ones mentioned that the person could have been on paid leave from work, like holidays.

or works at an abattoir or butcher

or knows the area well and has access to a cabin/hut thats isolated

or self employed...
 
  • #600
When Jess was first found, I thought to myself given the short amount of time and short distance from home in which she disappeared that morning that IMHO (only my opinion) that she more than likely was known to her abductor in some way or fashion. (still is possible, so not ruling that out inside my mind) but...

Now that LE has connected the jogger and Jess (unless that's changed I haven't had the time to read all posts but I did check the MSM myself during the day when I got time) I wonder if Jess was selected because the jogger was a grown woman and fought back.

I am wondering if part of the reason she was selected for his crimes was that she would be more manageable because she was a little girl. (A little girl forever now :()

Just thinking out loud. All JMHO as to the possibilites.
 
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