CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #2

[MassGuy]

Fiance' Patrick Frazee seen leaving attorney's office - refuses to answer questions from reporters.

Video: The search grows for missing Colorado mom

Thanks! I’ve been looking for this video.

Please give your research team a pie from me.

I’m thinking blueberry.

 

[MyBelle]

Someone did remove Kelsey's purse.

The fact that SW's purse was found in her home became a big clue in the Watts case. JMO

 

[PommyMommy]

Kelsey Berreth Case: What to Know About the Missing Colorado Mom Last Seen on Thanksgiving Day
Sunday, Dec. 2
Kelsey’s mother, Cheryl, reported her daughter missing after being unable to reach her.

Cheryl reached out to Frazee, who called her back and said he hadn’t heard from her since she had last texted.

Officers with the Woodlawn Park Police conducted a community care takers search on Kelsey’s home, which was empty. Her cars, her clothes and her toothbrush all appeared untouched since Thanksgiving, authorities said.

 

[Inthedetails]

The fact that SW's purse was found in her home became a big clue in the Watts case. JMO

It's like this is the Opposite of What Chris Watts Did case.

jmo

 

[PommyMommy]

It's like this is the Opposite of What Chris Watts Did case.

jmo

Yeah, this guy's steering waaaaaaaay clear of the media. No porch interviews here. MOO

 

[jewelsmac]

Sorry if these questions have already been covered or new information has come to light today...i just logged in
Where was she supposed to be on Thanksgiving? A friends house, a relative? Why was no one wonder where she was while they were sitting down to Thanksgiving dinner? Also, why not with her fiance and her baby for Thanksgiving?

 

[MyBelle]

It's like this is the Opposite of What Chris Watts Did case.

jmo

It does appear somebody has taken careful notes about what not to do.

 

[MassGuy]

Yeah, this guy's steering waaaaaaaay clear from the media. No porch interviews here. MOO

It’s a shame that NUA wasn’t friends with Kelsey. She would have been reported missing by the 23rd.

Someone got a big head start here.

 

[miimaa]

Kelsey Berreth Case: What to Know About the Missing Colorado Mom Last Seen on Thanksgiving Day
Sunday, Dec. 2
Kelsey’s mother, Cheryl, reported her daughter missing after being unable to reach her.

Cheryl reached out to Frazee, who called her back and said he hadn’t heard from her since she had last texted.

Officers with the Woodlawn Park Police conducted a community care takers search on Kelsey’s home, which was empty. Her cars, her clothes and her toothbrush all appeared untouched since Thanksgiving, authorities said.

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What was that text to Frazee? Anyone know?

 

[MyBelle]

Yeah, this guy's steering waaaaaaaay clear of the media. No porch interviews here. MOO

No interviews and both phone and purse missing.

 

[MassGuy]

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What was that text to Frazee? Anyone know?

No. LE hasn’t said and Frazee ain’t talking.

 

[Gardener1850]

Wonder why KB moved to Colorado and how she met the fiance... She had only been there 2 years or so.. And the baby is 15 months. Seems a short time to meet someone and have a baby unless they knew each other prior.. Doesn't seem that she had many friends in the area. She was far from family with a very young baby... Maybe it was a career motivated move?

15 + 9 = 24 months, or two years. Timing of move seems to coincide with her getting pregnant. Makes it seem like a possible break away from family happened at this time (JMO). Yet her mother was very adamant to say Kelsey has never lived with Patrick. I have to wonder how long it took her to tell her family about the pregnancy. Did she feel at 27 or 28 years old she had to hide an out of wedlock pregnancy or had to possibly lie about where she was living/who she was living with? Or is her family covering up now for a living situation they may not have approved of in the past?

It's hard to fathom an adult woman in a relationship moving away from home at about the same time she gets pregnant, moving to the same area as the father of her child and not 1. Moving in with her boyfriend OR 2. Marrying the boyfriend right away. Option #2 is the option I see most conservative Christian friends of mine taking. Unless the relationship ends/he refuses to commit. Did Kelsey find herself stuck in this new place with a baby and a rocky relationship? It feels like she might have been isolated. Something is off or there is something we are not being told. MOO. Where are all her friends and coworkers? Have they spoken to the press yet about Kelsey?

 

[jewelsmac]

What was purchased at the store and where is it? (We haven't received that info yet) At first the news said she dropped her daughter off with her fiance/child's father. Tonight's news said he picked the child up. Then he would have been the last person (we are to suppose) to see her alive if she brought the little girl to him after the store or even if he picked the child up from Kelsey -- must be one of the two since she is on video in the store with her little girl. Her vehicles are home. Her purse is not home. Where are the car keys? House keys? What time did he pick up the child or what time was the child dropped off? How do those times sync with cell phone activity and store video? What is her historic cell phone usage? Did the cellphone go quiet at a certain point?

I am wondering what she purchased, where it is, what the timestamp on the receipt is. If she purchased food for her little girl where is it? Did she send it with the dad? If she purchased food for herself where is it? Why would she purchase food if she intended to leave (without informing anyone except employer -- so that is unlikely IMO). How long did the fiance/father plan to keep the little girl? We do not know yet if it was to be a week, a day or whatever. Did the little girl have an overnight bag (because no matter what anyone says about shared custody a child that age has things that need to be with the child on a daily basis such as fav blankets and toys). Lots of information lacking.

All excellent quesitons. And I cannot imagine any mom who would leave her baby, even with daddy, that would not call often to check on baby. Why was she not spending Thanksgiving with her man and her child?

 

[cluciano63]

I guess he must have some sort of proof that he has a right to custody of the baby? Would he need to provide that?

 

[MassGuy]

15 + 9 = 24 months, or two years. Timing of move seems to coincide with her getting pregnant. Makes it seem like a possible break away from family happened at this time (JMO). Yet her mother was very adamant to say Kelsey has never lived with Patrick. I have to wonder how long it took her to tell her family about the pregnancy. Did she feel at 27 or 28 years old she had to hide an out of wedlock pregnancy or had to possibly lie about where she was living/who she was living with? Or is her family covering up now for a living situation they may not have approved of in the past?

It's hard to fathom an adult woman in a relationship moving away from home at about the same time she gets pregnant, moving to the same area as the father of her child and not 1. Moving in with her boyfriend OR 2. Marrying the boyfriend right away. Option #2 is the option I see most conservative Christian friends of mine taking. Unless the relationship ends/he refuses to commit. Did Kelsey find herself stuck in this new place with a baby and a rocky relationship? It feels like she might have been isolated. Something is off or there is something we are not being told. MOO. Where are all her friends and coworkers? Have they spoken to the press yet about Kelsey?

Yeah, I find the last part of your post especially odd.

You’d think that there would be a lot of people coming out of the woodwork to plead for her safe return. Local friends, coworkers and acquaintances. Something.

It’s been pretty quiet. Perhaps she was a private person. It explains why there wasn’t a great deal of concern early on.

Weird though.

 

[MyBelle]

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What was that text to Frazee? Anyone know?

The media keeps asking that question and so far, no answer. My guess is that PF erased it which is what Mollie Tibbetts' boyfriend did and it immediately made everyone suspicious. JMO

 

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[Inthedetails]

The media keeps asking that question and so far, no answer. My guess is that PF erased it which is what Mollie Tibbetts' boyfriend did and it immediately made everyone suspicious. JMO

Yet, Mollie's boyfriend showed up a the press conferences. He stood with her family, despite scrutiny on him. Of course, he knew he was innocent.

jmo

 

[MassGuy]

Yet, Mollie's boyfriend showed up a the press conferences. He stood with her family, despite scrutiny on him. Of course, he knew he was innocent.

jmo

Yeah. The scrutiny there was especially unfair, especially considering the fact that LE had publicly cleared him.

He didn’t care though, he just wanted his girlfriend home.

What’s going on here rubs me the wrong way. I’m sure I’m not alone with that.

 

[Gardener1850]

I did transcribe it!

That last little detail was still confusing - thanks for being another set of ears. The mom didn't call fiance on Nov 25. She called him on Dec 2 and he told her about the text he received from Kelsey's phone on Nov 25.

jmo

Yeah that is how I'm reading it too. 10 days before her mother checks on her does not seem like they had a close relationship where they talked everyday. Perhaps Kelsey only talked to her mom once or twice a week? Some families are not as close as others. Or if someone has a job where they work a lot of long hours (like a flight instructor may) they might only call on their days off. JMO.