CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #21 *ARREST*

[Love Never Fails]

And its out. The mods left my links and comments to the Nancy Grace Dec 26 report on crime on line (after min 27) that the woman in Idaho being interogated was PF's GF. Not that it really matters whether she was a GF or not, she appears to have been involved in disposing of the cellphone.

It’s probable that all the suspects talked and made the decision not to talk to LE at any cost. This is getting dirtier.

 

[Emi]

I am reading in the tweets that Kelsey's mom CB wasnt at the courtroom but she joined via speaker phone

 

[AuctionGal]

Patrick Frazee and Idaho nurse, 32, had been having an affair prior to the murder of Kelsey Berreth | Daily Mail Online

• Patrick Frazee and the woman who is under investigation for possibly disposing of Kelsey Berreth's cell phone were having an affair claim sources
• Two people who have worked with the 32-year-old nurse said she met Frazee at a rodeo and began seeing him sometime after her divorce in 2016
• One of the people also stated that the woman was in Colorado around Thanksgiving, which could explain how he the phone was transported
• Frazee never once left the state in the 11 days between the time that Berreth was last seen alive and her mother first reported her missing

Two individuals who have worked with the Idaho women that is being investigated for disposing of Kelsey Berreth's cell phone say that she and Patrick Frazee had been in a romantic relationship for months.

The woman, whose identity is not being revealed as she has not yet been charged with a crime, could also be the person who had been plotting with Frazee about killing Berreth should the investigation prove she did in fact dispose of the cell.

DailyMail.com spoke with two people who know the nurse professionally, and they both said that they had been told that Frazee was having an affair with the woman.

The woman was divorced from her husband a few years back they explained, and had met Frazee at a rodeo.

Neither of those individuals knew exactly when the relationship started, but they believed it could have been as early as 2016 - prior to the birth of Frazee's child.

One of the the people DailyMail.com spoke with also said that the nurse was in Colorado around Thanksgiving.

That would explain how Frazee was able to get the cell phone to Idaho while never leaving the state.

The caption on this first picture (second picture in the article) states: Farm man: Two people who have worked with the 32-year-old nurse said she met Frazee at a rodeo and began seeing him sometime after her divorce in 2016 (Frazee above tending to goats) Uh, I don't think those are goats...

 

[Mom24]

I am reading in the tweets that Kelsey's mom CB wasnt at the courtroom but she joined via speaker phone

So is the baby still in her custody?

 

[enelram]

Isn't PF's father dead? Where is that info coming from that he wants custody? I missed it.

jmo

It was discussed here and in news report of last hearing.

 

[Emi]

Carol McKinley on Twitter
Carol McKinley‏ @CarolAMcKinley 10m10 minutes ago
Awaiting information about which family will retain custody of the 14 month old child of missing mom #KelseyBerreth and #PatrickFrazee, in jail accused of her murder. ⁦@ABC⁩ ⁦@Clayton_Sandell⁩

 

[SandyQLS]

From the above link:

"DailyMail.com spoke with two people who know the nurse professionally, and they both said that they had been told that Frazee was having an affair with the woman.

The woman was divorced from her husband a few years back they explained, and had met Frazee at a rodeo."

Perhaps it is British usage, but when an unmarried man and a divorced woman have a personal relationship, that is not an "affair". PF certainly has something all these women want. What makes LE so certain that PF murdered KB instead of one of these spurned women the DM has reported on? (the one who says he "cheated" on her while she was in the hospital years ago, this IdahoNurse having an "affair")

 

[Gardener1850]

Isn't PF's father dead? Where is that info coming from that he wants custody? I missed it.

jmo

No, his parents are divorced. I haven't seen anything about his father being dead. There was one story that reported PF's father was also seeking to intervene for custody but I think many of us determined it was bad reporting again (the records said "paternal grandmother"- perhaps that one reporter heard "paternal" and jumped to "father"?).

 

[Jupiter05]

From the court docket website. Looks like custody is continued until Feb 7.

2/7/19
8:30 AM 1H FRAZEE, PATRICK Pre-Trial Conference D602018JV26 Teller County DIV 11 - TELLER DISTRICT COURT

 

[Emi]

Jenna Middaugh on Twitter
Jenna Middaugh‏Verified account @JennaMiddaugh 31s31 seconds ago
Frazee’s family walks out of a back room with their attorney inside the Teller County Courthouse. We’re still working to find out what happened during the custody hearing @KKTV11News

 

[MsBetsy]

Yes you've been saying that all along, MsBetsy. So tell us more
of your hunches.
No clue yet where they worked. I think ABC is doing the
"Drip, drip, drip" giving out information.
My hunch:
I wonder if LE is leaking this info on purpose because she and
her attorney are not divulging all they know and LE is putting
pressure on her by leaking information.
Maybe LE will not guarantee immunity from prosecution and
nurse says then I won't talk anymore.
I don't believe LE knows where the phone is, just that she
did something with it. Disposed of it or destroyed it.

Yikes! I don't have any more hunches! Your guess is as good as mine. I just think if I were going to ask someone to do something that my life might depend on, that I would never want anyone to know, I would make sure I knew that person very well. Which is why I think they may have grown up together, or at least known each other since around high school. Not sure about meeting at a rodeo, that's why I asked if he could have worked at one. I just know he attended them


The only reason I don't think it is a love interest is because it would be too risky. There is too much emotion involved, and things can change in a day.
But of course that is just my opinion.

 

[Snow Flower]

“One of the the people DailyMail.com spoke with also said that the nurse was in Colorado around Thanksgiving. ” Daily Mail.

I speculated about this last night. I have a feeling an arrest for this woman is imminent. JMO

 

[Trudie]

Is it possible that K & P’s relationship was only ever casual? That her family, miles away, believed it was much more? Especially after a pregnancy/child is added to the equation?
Perhaps, prior to meeting P (reportedly online), K was specifically trying to get on at DOSS & reached out on SM to make friends, prior to an anticipated move.
I have no credible knowledge of how the two met. Only what’s been reported.
IF another woman thought she was the main woman in a the stable, or perhaps left her marriage for a relationship with a guy, then finds out he fathered a child.......I’m thinking all hell would break loose.

Hypothetical MOO & all that jazz

 

[AgeofAquaruis]

I hope that is true. The cell phone might be how the charges all happened like BAM!

jmo

I'm thinking anyone fool enough to take the phone,and help cover for him, would be fool enough to believe they could get away with the 'false Ping', and keep the phone to send more messages at a later date,to go along with the false narrative that she took off.
I think LE knew where the phone was, and tracked it to the weak link, but needed a search warrant to get it, or they confronted this nurse, and let her know they were onto her. So she gave up the ghost so to speak.
MOO.

 

[PommyMommy]

Kolby Crossley on Twitter
Still waiting on the outcome of today’s custody hearing. Here is video of Patrick Frazee leaving the hearing. #PatrickFrazee @KRDONC13

 

[Trudie]

“One of the the people DailyMail.com spoke with also said that the nurse was in Colorado around Thanksgiving. ” Daily Mail.

I speculated about this last night. I have a feeling an arrest for this woman is imminent. JMO

I’ve akways maintained P did not leave CO, had a solid alibi (of whereabouts) & a person he’s affiliated with (thru rodeocircuit) drove the phone to ID. He’s got to have a lot of contacts, from the rodeo circuit. It’s a brotherhood.
Moo

 

[Inthedetails]

No, his parents are divorced. I haven't seen anything about his father being dead. There was one story that reported PF's father was also seeking to intervene for custody but I think many of us determined it was bad reporting again (the records said "paternal grandmother"- perhaps that one reporter heard "paternal" and jumped to "father"?).

Thanks, that makes sense. jmo

 

[Love Never Fails]

Perhaps it is British usage, but when an unmarried man and a divorced woman have a personal relationship, that is not an "affair". PF certainly has something all these women want. What makes LE so certain that PF murdered KB instead of one of these spurned women the DM has reported on? (the one who says he "cheated" on her while she was in the hospital years ago, this IdahoNurse having an "affair")

Respectfully, the first never said he cheated on her. That is her current boyfriend who spoke. I respect and believe that LE charged PF because they have indisputable evidence against him. Who cares if someone calls it an affair? He is charged with a lot more than an affair! Sounds to me like you are on his side. Let’s not go there.

 

[Yellow Rose]

I'm in and out because of insurance renewal meetings. Have they said who keeps custody?

 

[Lhughessk]

Perhaps it is British usage, but when an unmarried man and a divorced woman have a personal relationship, that is not an "affair". PF certainly has something all these women want. What makes LE so certain that PF murdered KB instead of one of these spurned women the DM has reported on? (the one who says he "cheated" on her while she was in the hospital years ago, this IdahoNurse having an "affair")

Regarding use of the term “affair” - It all depends on the nature of PF and KB’s relationship. If KB thought the relationship was exclusive and PF gave the appearance of the same yet was sneaking around with someone else, I think most people would call that an “affair” or “cheating”. I know I would.

I don’t know what LE is certain of. They’ve said more arrests are an absolute possibility. Maybe they have enough evidence that PF was involved to charge him but are still investigating before bringing charges against the other person(s). The affair partner certainly could be involved in the murder itself when all is said and done. But it’s likely that PF would have needed to give her KB’s address, schedule, etc