CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #28 *ARREST*

[MassGuy]

I disagree- I think it was a news media error and there is another person associated with KK who was solicited also-- whom I think will be arrested soon.

There very well may be another person who was solicited, but I believe that the three solicitation charges right now, only relate to KK.

 

[Elley Mae]

Then on Sunday the Rockstahl family explains what they were told about Krystal’s alleged trip to Colorado that led investigators to execute search warrants here in Idaho.

Twin Falls couple discusses tough call to FBI

 

[oviedo]

I don't think it was... or IS... PF she is afraid of.

I sure hope we see some arrests tomorrow - I think that will shed light on the plan IMO

 

[Marli61]

But I'm betting the employee who is the BFF of KK, knew his last name. IMO

If it is ever proven the BFF did NOT know PF's last name I will eat my hat & the hair under it.

 

[enelram]

not sure about location but i'm curious about the phone number. it's the first time i've seen a phone number in relation to PF. i'm not gonna try but i wonder who, if anyone, would answer?

I checked it earlier, it's a land line to his mother's home.

 

[Seattle1]

I would guess KB's parents did.

I recall it reported as an anonymous source.

 

[The Night Watchman]

I disagree- I think it was a news media error and there is another person associated with KK who was solicited also-- whom I think will be arrested soon.

We don't know if KK was solicited three times (only one MSM account).

We do not know about anyone else that was solicited.

That is my understanding.

ETA- I also think that legally it would hard to solicit someone three times. For each charge, the solicitee has to take action. Do they decline to proceed further on the initial action, then repeat the process two more times? Sorry if this has been explained. It seems each additional solicitation charge against one person would be incrementally more difficult to occur and prove.

 

[windrower]

Just curious. If your best friend told you that she was asked to murder someone, and she told you in such a way that you were so bothered by it, you went to your boss visibly upset to tell them...you wouldn’t report that?

Context and hindsight are powerful, aren't they? Or maybe not so much to the lynch mob posting here lately.

My post you were responding to was about the Rs, not about the best friend, but I'll go ahead and answer your question.

If my best friend told me she was asked to murder someone, I would absolutely figure out what was going on with that situation.

If my best friend then told me that her being asked to murder someone was just drunk crazy talk, and to forget she brought it up, that is probably exactly what I would do.

Would I talk to my boss about such a situation? I might if my boss was an attorney. Would I report to LE? Yes, if I felt that was warranted.

But here's the kicker: I've been reading and watching true crime for decades--books, television shows, Websleuths. I'm cynical, I'm suspicious, and I would probably take the "I've been asked to murder someone" story a lot farther than most people would. Those who don't read or follow true crime just don't see a situation the same way we WSers see it. I know this because I have family and friends who just do not think like I do about missing person cases, murders, etc.

So sue me if I cut the Rs some slack.

KK was closest to the problem--as a solicitee, she absolutely should have intervened somehow. Did she try? What was that entire conversation stream with PF?

BFF of KK--well, see above. If the story was eventually made out to be of little consequence by KK, I'm just not sure the average uncynical unsuspicious person would think beyond that. Who in their everyday right mind would think such a thing was a thing?!?

However, if neither BFF or KK went to LE even later when Kelsey's story went national, then they deserve whatever comes their way now.

If PF and solicitation, and KK and her involvement, came to LE's attention because of the Rs, good on them.

The interviews? I'm waiting for an explanation.

 

[MsBetsy]

Maybe Thanksgiving was her husband's holiday to have the kids this year. We don't know.

That could be. When my daughter's father has his scheduled visitation, I don't ever interfere because he doesn't get to see her as much. Imo

 

[Esma]

There very well may be another person who was solicited, but I believe that the three solicitation charges right now, only relate to KK.

I think there is another- and KK flipped on that person and is negotiating lesser charges. I bet she is in protective custody for fear of that person, and LE are watching that person until they arrest. They are probably building their evidence against that person. All MOO, but I think it will be soon.

 

[enelram]

Not to change the subject about the KK and her BFF, but I think this is going to be all about custody of Kaylee, I bet she was a chick magnet for him. Could be why he carried her around like an accessory. I bet he loved having women lean in, and comment on Kaylee. As a single father whose SO was deceased, even more sympathy for him. He is weak, that we can see from him asking a woman to kill KB. I cant imagine what KB had on PF that would make him want to kill her. Was he into drugs, prescription type? He may have had some injuries and Dr's do prescribe pain meds for recovery. JMO

I'd also like to know more about his drug and drinking habits.
His lack of self control and impulsivity in whomping on his
horses lead me to wonder.

 

[SoVeryMe]

Maybe the BFF wants the reward, and they are representing her. So much missing. And why break up the damn interview!!

I didn’t think of that! I agree about the interviews.....way to draw out viewers! Shameless!

 

[Herat]

Context and hindsight are powerful, aren't they? Or maybe not so much to the lynch mob posting here lately.

My post you were responding to was about the Rs, not about the best friend, but I'll go ahead and answer your question.

If my best friend told me she was asked to murder someone, I would absolutely figure out what was going on with that situation.

If my best friend then told me that her being asked to murder someone was just drunk crazy talk, and to forget she brought it up, that is probably exactly what I would do.

Would I talk to my boss about such a situation? I might if my boss was an attorney. Would I report to LE? Yes, if I felt that was warranted.

But here's the kicker: I've been reading and watching true crime for decades--books, television shows, Websleuths. I'm cynical, I'm suspicious, and I would probably take the "I've been asked to murder someone" story a lot farther than most people would. Those who don't read or follow true crime just don't see a situation the same way we WSers see it. I know this because I have family and friends who just do not think like I do about missing person cases, murders, etc.

So sue me if I cut the Rs some slack.

KK was closest to the problem--as a solicitee, she absolutely should have intervened somehow. Did she try? What was that entire conversation stream with PF?

BFF of KK--well, see above. If the story was eventually made out to be of little consequence by KK, I'm just not sure the average uncynical unsuspicious person would think beyond that. Who in their everyday right mind would think such a thing was a thing?!?

However, if neither BFF or KK went to LE even later when Kelsey's story went national, then they deserve whatever comes their way now.

If PF and solicitation, and KK and her involvement, came to LE's attention because of the Rs, good on them.

The interviews? I'm waiting for an explanation.

I think what KK told BFF and what BFF told the R’s are not exactly the same things and I think there are likely some signficant ommissions in the second case

 

[Hatch]

not sure about location but i'm curious about the phone number. it's the first time i've seen a phone number in relation to PF. i'm not gonna try but i wonder who, if anyone, would answer?

I googled that number this is what came up.

 

[Elley Mae]

To date, no one else had been arrested in connection with the alleged murder of Berreth, but the investigation is ongoing, Viehman said. “The reason why the affidavit is remaining sealed is so that law enforcement can contact witnesses before all that information is made public,” Viehman said.

Patrick Frazee hearing delayed to Feb. 19; prosecutors in Kelsey Berreth case release documents

 

[skycountry]

Is this property the same as where he was living with mother.?


Patrick Frazee - Horse Pro Finder

If you look at this map you can see there is lots of openness to the west and the southwest of him. There was a fire in the area south of him this past summer, I am betting lots of four wheeler activity has made trails, from when they monitored the fire. He could have driven along on these trails and no one would have known it. On the other side of 411, thousands of acres of open land, with just an occasional house, or summer cabin.

 

[AgeofAquaruis]

I would guess KB's parents did.

That could be, but the anonymous donor, makes me think maybe The R's feel horrible knowing that they could have helped to prevent this. That they felt compelled to put up the reward money to help in any way they can now.
I could be wrong of course.
MOO

 

[MassGuy]

I'd also like to know more about his drug and drinking habits.
His lack of self control and impulsivity in whomping on his
horses lead me to wonder.

It doesn’t take drugs or alcohol to be an abusive jerk.

Some abusers don’t partake in alcohol because they want to maintain control.

We haven’t heard anything about him partaking in those things, and they are by no means a requirement for the behaviors we have learned about.

 

[Seattle1]

Canon City is much further south than where that indicator is depicted. That said, I wouldn't rely on any site like that where there isn't a physical address specified.

Canon City is where the Prisons are located -- it's west of Pueblo, where Kelesy worked. About 40 miles.

https://www.google.com/search?q=dis...e..69i57j0.15241j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

 

[Love Never Fails]

Then on Sunday the Rockstahl family explains what they were told about Krystal’s alleged trip to Colorado that led investigators to execute search warrants here in Idaho.

Twin Falls couple discusses tough call to FBI

Been thinking of this all day. Why was this a “tough call” to make?
I am sure it would have been my first call once I asked my employee some questions. My first impression is that they didn’t want to get involved. But when they found out someone was actually murdered, their conscience got the better of them. Or was it something else? CB must feel they have put a knife in her heart. How many more people knew? Also, I have no sympathies for the IN, rodeo queen, whatever people want to call her now.