CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #28 *ARREST*

[PommyMommy]

Please help me here.

How would the R's know anything about KK's road trip and who were they supposedly told by?

The R's just came forward this if I am correct.

When their employee came forward to them was it after Thanksgiving or before? If it was before they could not have known about the road trip at that point. This is where I am stuck on how they know anything about the trip.

Employee told the R's in October so the R's would have learned about the road trip later.

The BFF works for the R's. I am sure they speak to each other.
MOO

 

[GordianKnot]

In retrospect, absolutely they should have.

Would they? I’m not sure what protocol is there. I would hope that notifying the potential victim is standard.

My main point was that it’s by no means a sure thing that these people contacting authorities, would have set off a chain of events that would have prevented this.

I wholeheartedly agree with this post.

There is absolutely no way of knowing whether it would have made one single whit of difference had the R's or KK's friend contacted LE. We'll never know.

I'm sure the unanswerable, "What if I had called LE?" question will haunt both the R's and KK's friend for a long, long time. I actually feel quite badly for them. JMO.

The blame lies elsewhere and needs to be laid solely/wholly/entirely at the feet of the individual(s) who actively planned and executed the murder.

I do think that had KK reported the solicitation attempt(s) to LE and/or contacted KB to alert her to the danger that PF posed to her, KB would still be alive.

IMO, the only individuals who could have prevented KB's murder are PF and KK.

 

[MsBetsy]

Maybe the BFF thought she was helping KK by having her come in to talk to the R’s. What that really did was expose KK.

That makes sense. Then when she spoke to her again about it, KK downplayed it, telling her to forget about it. Imo

 

[claudianunes]

Not everyone celebrates a holiday the same, there’s no law requiring everyone meet with family & eat turkey.
Maybe her kids had plans.
Do we know KK in CO on T-day?
I can’t find msm source confirming her date of arrival.

Yeah, we don't really know. "Sources" say so. But who are those "sources" right? I am holding my thoughts until we some info from actual LE.

 

[InvSmith]

I think what is at everyone's posts that really stayed with me today was domestic abuse and perhaps the desensitization of abuse. This was hinted at in several post upon the mention of the "plotting" of KB's death. Her death was an escalation. What we have identified here is how comments even casually about domestic abuse can be serious signs of escalation of abuse. Somehow this planning went as far as elimination of a life with not much in between.

 

[PommyMommy]

Reward was/is for locating Kelsey...right?
None of these talking people know where she is...right?

Right. As far as we know.
MOO

 

[Trudie]

Yeah, we don't really know. "Sources" say so. But who are those "sources" right? I am holding my thoughts until we some info from actual LE.

Ita. I know so little despite reading all msm. I like facts.

 

[BRRI]

Not that anyone is aware. There is only the one linked article that comes from a click-bait site.

I have a gut feeling it’s coming. Just a feeling that something is about to break

 

[SandyQLS]

Wasn ‘t the whole Sonic video dubious?
And Saturday? Not on Thanksgiving?

It was Sat 11/24 and only carried by one media... iirc the radio station? and not picked up by bigger media. There was also the issue that she used her credit card there, and that, if true, is even stronger evidence of KK being in WP that day.

 

[Trudie]

I think what is at everyone's posts that really stayed with me today was domestic abuse and perhaps the desensitization of abuse. This was hinted at in several post upon the mention of the "plotting" of KB's death. Her death was an escalation. What we have identified here is how comments even casually about domestic abuse can be serious signs of escalation of abuse. Somehow this planning went as far as elimination of a life with not much in between.

IMO, we’ve identified the fact it’s best to not talk about murder. Nor commit murder.

 

[Trudie]

It was Sat 11/24 and only carried by one media... iirc the radio station? and not picked up by bigger media. There was also the issue that she used her credit card there, and that, if true, is even stronger evidence of KK being in WP that day.

Yesssss. Was she arriving or leaving town? I’d guess cameras show her direction and indicate where she may have been headed. Idk

 

[The Farm]

Employee told the R's in October so the R's would have learned about the road trip later.

The BFF works for the R's. I am sure they speak to each other.
MOO

This is what I thought, the employee who is KK's BFF told the R's in October, before Thanksgiving, the road trip had not happened yet so are you saying the employee, BFF, then went back to the R's and then told them about that too?
And they are just saying something now?

I was assuming the R's knew nothing about the road trip.

 

[sunshineandlove]

It makes no sense to me why they are talking about their FBI interview and what they were told unless there is a bigger picture ? IMO

I'm guessing it was their employee that told them that in hindsight she also knew that KK had gone to Colorado on or about Thanksgiving.

 

[GordianKnot]

Well she was solicited three times, and ultimately helped PF mislead any potential investigation, on account of those texts and ping.

If someone asks you to kill someone, and then you take possession of this victim’s cell phone, you no longer have deniability.

You have context for what you are helping with.

Had she not been solicited, then I still wouldn’t believe that she didn’t know what she was doing.

It’s implausible, if not impossible, to make that claim now.

BBM: Fantastic post!

LE has her dead to rights for being an accessory after the fact. IMO.
The fact that they haven't arrested her for it concerns me.

 

[Esma]

Who?
Where I live protection isn’t provided unless there’s a lot of evidence deeming it necessary. It’s costly, for one. The person needing protection likely has places to hang, if needed, imo. In my state, if I’m afraid of someone & told LE, they’d advise me to stay with a friend or have one stay with me, lock my doors, be alert & “call if you need us.” They can’t babysit me based on something that might or might not be true or happen. Jmo

(Protective custody to me means an incarcerated person is kept from the GP. I think you mean a witness is being protected by LE? Sorry, if not)

My bad- yes, exactly. A witness protected by LE. Not in jail.

 

[MassGuy]

BBM: Fantastic post!

LE has her dead to rights for being an accessory after the fact. IMO.
The fact that they haven't arrested her for it concerns me.

I could live with immunity for her if she was only an accessory after the fact.

It’s absolutely disgusting that she didn’t stop this in its tracks, and at the very least, helped him cover this up.

But if it brings him down, fine.

The problem is, I think she’s far more involved than just that.

 

[InvSmith]

It was Sat 11/24 and only carried by one media... iirc the radio station? and not picked up by bigger media. There was also the issue that she used her credit card there, and that, if true, is even stronger evidence of KK being in WP that day.

So, is the Sonic report true?

 

[Elley Mae]

This is what I thought, the employee who is KK's BFF told the R's in October, before Thanksgiving, the road trip had not happened yet so are you saying the employee, BFF, then went back to the R's and then told them about that too?
And they are just saying something now?

I was assuming the R's knew nothing about the road trip.

I am wondering if it’s the “sm” about the employee, which raised my eyebrows that the employee would be saying anything on “sm” about this crime. Could be her friendship with kk that gave her away to others in the area once kk was outed. Idk very confusing.

 

[skycountry]

So, is the Sonic report true?

I guess we are not sure at this point. jmo

 

[MKZoo]

This is what I thought, the employee who is KK's BFF told the R's in October, before Thanksgiving, the road trip had not happened yet so are you saying the employee, BFF, then went back to the R's and then told them about that too?
And they are just saying something now?

I was assuming the R's knew nothing about the road trip.

I agree. I’m assuming that after KK asked everyone to drop the whole thing in whatever way she explained it, the friend did not provide the Rs with continuous updates about KK’s travel plans. I would guess they didn’t learn of the road trip until after it happened.

Imo.