CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #28 *ARREST*

[AgeofAquaruis]

See post #164 on thread #25.
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Thank you. So it's looking like the Perfect Rodeo Queen is not made of sugar,and spice.

 

[otto]

Yes I agree and see absolutely no reason for their interview IMO unless... part of a bigger picture ? People talk in small towns I have learned and when the FBI came in December something triggered the outing of KK IMO - phone records is my guess

This couple has no right to have a voice today. They had a voice when Kelsey was alive and they didn't use it. The fact that she would be alive if they had courage is not okay. They don't deserve absolution for doing nothing. They should hear a strong message that they should keep their mouths shut until trial.

 

[Trudie]

Maybe all PF farrier buddies, clients, and roping partners are waiting for the other shoe to drop. It has been awfully quiet. There are ranchers still in the area, and a kids camp down the road, they run about 60-75 head of horses during the summer months, not sure if he is their farrier. IMO he should have at least 25-30 "clients", but they are all quiet, I can only imagine their horror. JMO

No one wants to believe their friend or family is so evil. I would totally refrain from speaking, no matter the sidebar the fence I was on if my friend was murdered or accused of murder. I would want facts. Me speaking out about how great a friend is has no bearing on guilt/innocence, imo.
Rodeos are known for being a tight circle. A lot of of the participants are hoping to go pro, earning points towards that goal by winning smaller competitions. IF P traveled the rodeo circuit, he has a lot of friends, imo. It’s a brotherhood, like a motorcycle club or a pro B.B. team.
If he got released tonight, he could appear at a rodeo tomorrow & imo, nothing would be mentioned. It takes a lot of money to have a horse that’s rodeo ready, imo. It takes a lot of money to travel, haul horses, pay entry fees, etc. all moo

Thinking of a saying......

Show me your friends, I’ll know who you are

 

[Trudie]

Thank you. So it's looking like the Perfect Rodeo Queen is not made of sugar,and spice.

And nothing nice?

 

[otto]

They had no clue, it is only after they saw CB on TV, that things started falling into place for them. They are average people, not the FBI. IMO, they are on the news giving interviews with the FBI's and LE's blessing. Seems to me if they were told to be quiet they would be. JMO

What do you mean they had no clue? They knew that an employee was aware that a woman had been asked to murder the mother of a young child. Even average people know that is morally and ethically outside the boundaries of normal social behavior.

 

[gitana1]

But does it make a difference that she is their employee at that moment and not their client? That’s where I’m unsure - attorney/client is pretty straightforward, but here you have attorney/employee.

It's either an attorney/client relationship or it's not. An employee can be in that relationship without formally hiring or paying the person.

Regardless, it either is or isn't.

You're talking about two totally separate things. One you just brought up is whether they have a privileged relationship (doctor/patient, pastor/penitent, attorney/client) at all. If they didn't and do not they can talk about whatever they want at any time. But if they had such a relationship, they could not tell anything confidential at any time, UNLESS:
1. They had specific information about a crime, AND;
2. This information was about a crime that was going to be committed in the future, AND;
3. The crime would likely result in death or great bodily injury.

That is the only way they can break the privilege and reveal confidential information.

The other thing that you previously brought up is whether they would be breaking the law by failing to reveal information related to a crime they now realize has occurred, but at the time they heard it, it was only speculation. The answer is no. In fact, they would be breaking their ethical duties to the client as could get in trouble with the state bar, for revealing such information.

Just knowing about a crime and keeping silent is never criminal unless it's abuse and you're a mandatory reporter, or you assist the perp in getting rid of evidence, or creating an alibi, that kind of thing.

 

[Jupiter05]

Maybe all PF farrier buddies, clients, and roping partners are waiting for the other shoe to drop. It has been awfully quiet. There are ranchers still in the area, and a kids camp down the road, they run about 60-75 head of horses during the summer months, not sure if he is their farrier. IMO he should have at least 25-30 "clients", but they are all quiet, I can only imagine their horror. JMO

I wonder what PF's buddy Clint Cline is thinking today!

 

[skycountry]

So what would you say to LE if you were BFF's employer? "My employee said her BFF said her BF in CO said he wanted his baby mama dead and asked his GF to do it." No crime has been committed. What would they investigate? Should PF have been arrested in October when KB was alive and well and going about her business? Should IN have been arrested then for telling her BFF what her BF said? Should BFF's employers have been arrested because they heard an unsubstantiated rumor? MOO>

IMO, If LE had gone to KK and asked her what is up, she may have denied it, or maybe her BFF would not even have provided KK's name for LE to do a follow up. There really is not clear answer here, and hindsight is 20/20.

 

[oviedo]

This couple has no right to have a voice today. They had a voice when Kelsey was alive and they didn't use it. The fact that she would be alive if they had courage is not okay. They don't deserve absolution for doing nothing. They should hear a strong message that they should keep their mouths shut until trial.

I completely agree I’m just considering the possibility that this interview has been orchestrated to serve a specific purpose imo

 

[Herat]

I wonder if the R’s are following this board

How would they know ANYTHING about the trip to CO?

The information they received was in October, at least a month before the murder

Then the FBI in involved because the phone pinged.

They could have been reading our many posts about the KK’s credit card reportedly being used in Sonic in WB?

Or is BFF updating them on information from KK or about KK?

 

[Concernedmamaof3]

What possible motive could the BFF have for defending KK after she knew what happened in December ? This does not make sense unless something else was going on? JMO

I do wonder if KK was just as duplicitous as we think PF was and started creating a false narrative before the murder. If she did, it might be why the story of KK being terrified for her life is coming out, but doesn't feel like it rings true. MOO

 

[skycountry]

I wonder what his buddy Clint Cline is thinking today!

Are we allowed to mention him? Who knows, I don't recall him. Did he give a glowing report on PF?

 

[Trudie]

I wish this could be a header on every thread, Gitana!

Including: a person has the right to remain silent & often does so, as his attorney prefers.


TYSM

 

[Deleted member 718]

Which TV News broadcast?

It was Shannon Brinias on KRDO KRDO.com | Colorado Springs and Pueblo breaking news, weather, traffic and sports | KRDO NewsChannel 13 | Colorado news - KRDO

During the segment on Sonic, she also said KK was the nurse in Canon City. The whole thing was bungled.

A few days before the Sonic news, she posted a teaser on twitter that cause a lot of confusion.

Shannon Brinias on Twitter

 

[Trudie]

I do wonder if KK was just as duplicitous as we think PF was and started creating a false narrative before the murder. If she did, it might be why the story of KK being terrified for her life is coming out, but doesn't feel like it rings true. MOO

Looks like it IMO.

 

[Trudie]

I wonder if the R’s are following this board

How would they know ANYTHING about the trip to CO?

The information they received was in October, at least a month before the murder

Then the FBI in involved because the phone pinged.

They could have been reading our many posts about the KK’s credit card reportedly being used in Sonic in WB?

Or is BFF updating them on information from KK or about KK?

Maybe bff told Mr. R KK traveled. There’s much more to this, I think.....

 

[Trudie]

The way that MR. R Is grinning like the Chesire cat really makes me wonder what he's thinking. ( Maybe they put up the reward money). MOO.
The sequence of when they contacted LE, and when the reward money was posted, leads me to this hunch.

Why would they want the reward if it’s their money?
Hey, any publicity is good publicity, imo

 

[skycountry]

What do you mean they had no clue? They knew that an employee was aware that a woman had been asked to murder the mother of a young child. Even average people know that is morally and ethically outside the boundaries of normal social behavior.

Even if they had reported what little they knew, there is the possibility that KK would have laughed it off, or not even met with LE. Her BFF might not have even been willing to give them KK's contact info, apparently she did not ask Mr. R to follow up with KK, and KK told her BFF to forget about it. They are not mind readers. imo

 

[otto]

I completely agree I’m just considering the possibility that this interview has been orchestrated to serve a specific purpose imo

It sure seems like there's a hidden agenda - the big question is whether this the agenda of people who could have prevented this, or someone else.

If it's some sort of absolution agenda on behalf of those who should have had the courage to make a difference, it should stop. They should be silenced.

I can understand that they are not bound by a confidentiality agreement in relation to the trial. The woman who was asked to help with the murder is the witness, not the friend's employer. This couple should step away from the microphone and let justice take its' course.

 

[skycountry]

I completely agree I’m just considering the possibility that this interview has been orchestrated to serve a specific purpose imo

Exactly!